floyd mayweather admits he didnt want to fight Pacquiao

QueBert

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Settles what? He didn't say shit in that article about ducking anyone, he said "I don't fear no one" That article sounds like it was written by one of those Pactads. Manny's a great fighter, but a lot of his fans make it harder for a person to like him. If his health concerns are legit how and the hell's that ducking? I guess if he's at 80% health he should take the fight any ways? That worked great for Roy Jones and a host of other all time top 20 fighters.

Yet I'm sure the writer of the article wouldn't have shit to say about Pacman who turned down the 40 MILLION dollar offer Mayweather gave him, only to turn around and take another fight for I believe $8 million.
 
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IcePickFreak

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Settles what? He didn't say shit in that article about ducking anyone, he said "I don't fear no one" That article sounds like it was written by one of those Pactads. Manny's a great fighter, but a lot of his fans make it harder for a person to like him. If his health concerns are legit how and the hell's that ducking? I guess if he's at 80% health he should take the fight any ways? That worked great for Roy Jones and a host of other all time top 20 fighters.

Yet I'm sure the writer of the article wouldn't have shit to say about Pacman who turned down the 40 MILLION dollar offer Mayweather gave him, only to turn around and take another fight for I believe $8 million.

While IcePickFreak agrees, Mayweather makes it hard to like him all by himself.
 

QueBert

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While I agree, Mayweather makes it hard to like him all by himself.

Manny does too, a few years back he was carrying on about how he couldn't agree to the Olympic style testing because giving a small vial of blood a week before the fight would have left him too weak to compete. They both say extremely asshat'ish things outside of the ring. Manny's latest "I won't fight for $40 million, Floyd's LULZ if he thinks I'll go for that!" Only to take a fight for a fraction of that. I don't see how anyone could like either based off how they talk, but that's just me *shrug*
 

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Manny does too, a few years back he was carrying on about how he couldn't agree to the Olympic style testing because giving a small vial of blood a week before the fight would have left him too weak to compete. They both say extremely asshat'ish things outside of the ring. Manny's latest "I won't fight for $40 million Floyd's LULZ!" Only to take a fight for a 4th of that. I don't see how anyone could like either based off how they talk, but that's just me *shrug*
They are not full of shit just stupid, and stupid people say and do stupid things
 
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Manny does too, a few years back he was carrying on about how he couldn't agree to the Olympic style testing because giving a small vial of blood a week before the fight would have left him too weak to compete. They both say extremely asshat'ish things outside of the ring. Manny's latest "I won't fight for $40 million, Floyd's LULZ if he thinks I'll go for that!" Only to take a fight for a fraction of that. I don't see how anyone could like either based off how they talk, but that's just me *shrug*

I agree, I don't care for either one of them either. Mayweather is much less tolerable though IMO. It's not only what he says, but how he says it as well.
 

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Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny because Floyd is racist and hates Asians. We saw that with his comments about Lin. He's a chicken and a racist!!! BOOOOO!
 

QueBert

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Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny because Floyd is racist and hates Asians. We saw that with his comments about Lin. He's a chicken and a racist!!! BOOOOO!

If anything he's a troll, all he said about Lin was what a lot of us were thinking "dude's good, but if he wasn't Asian nobody would hardly know his name" what's racist about that? If you don't think being Asian was the only reason Lin was plastered all over the media I don't know what to tell you really. Floyd does word things to get peoples feathered riled up, but that's how you're suppose to troll.
 

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Manny only fights easy opponents. I have to give kudos to his trainer who made Pak and himslef rich.
 

QueBert

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Manny only fights easy opponents. I have to give kudos to his trainer who made Pak and himslef rich.

He'll fight a solid opponent, but only after he see's Mayweather beat him, Dela Hoya & Mosley come to come mind. Roach & Manny ducked Shane asking for a fight for almost 2 years. But as soon as they saw what Mayweather did to him, all of a sudden they wanted to take him up on his fight offer.
 
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If anything he's a troll, all he said about Lin was what a lot of us were thinking "dude's good, but if he wasn't Asian nobody would hardly know his name" what's racist about that? If you don't think being Asian was the only reason Lin was plastered all over the media I don't know what to tell you really. Floyd does word things to get peoples feathered riled up, but that's how you're suppose to troll.

Really? You think Lin's race had everything to do with a player rescuing a struggling franchise and bringing the team to prominence? Why was Tebow such a national phenomenon then?

Hell, why didn't Yao Ming get the same amount of hype in the US?
 

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He'll fight a solid opponent, but only after he see's Mayweather beat him, Dela Hoya & Mosley come to come mind. Roach & Manny ducked Shane asking for a fight for almost 2 years. But as soon as they saw what Mayweather did to him, all of a sudden they wanted to take him up on his fight offer.


I go to a boxing gym for workouts and I see enough of this crap wheeling and dealing. Boxing is in a decline until they found pak that they can make money on. Pak is an average fighter and a lucky guy who used to go around and sell bottles out of cart. Yet people still follow this crap. He should be thankful and hang on to his trainer promoter.

You are right about what you post.
 

QueBert

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Really? You think Lin's race had everything to do with a player rescuing a struggling franchise and bringing the team to prominence? Why was Tebow such a national phenomenon then?

Hell, why didn't Yao Ming get the same amount of hype in the US?

Yao didn't do anything spectacular, yet he actually got way more mention than he even deserved. It wasn't because he was good, and it wasn't because he was tall. The fact he was Asian was the only possible reason I could see why he got any hype at all. He wasn't a bad player, but I heard about him far more than anyone else in the league who played on his level. Bottom line Ming got a lot of hype all things considered. Lin had a few great games, shit like that happens all the time in sports. A team's not doing well, and they have a break out player who helps them rack up a string of wins. It's a great story, the media ran with because he didn't fit what a good basketball player is suppose to look like. The media hype was because he was Asian. That doesn't take away from his ability to ball, but there wouldn't have been nicknames made up for a black ball player who went from a rookie to a game saver, I guess because that's not as out of the blue as an Asian dude who was playing all star class b-ball.
 
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Nintendesert

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If anything he's a troll, all he said about Lin was what a lot of us were thinking "dude's good, but if he wasn't Asian nobody would hardly know his name" what's racist about that? If you don't think being Asian was the only reason Lin was plastered all over the media I don't know what to tell you really. Floyd does word things to get peoples feathered riled up, but that's how you're suppose to troll.





Did you think that comments about Donavon McNabb were racist when someone (Rush Limbaugh) said:

""I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."


He resigned over those comments. Floyd is no different in his racist remarks about Lin.
 

QueBert

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Did you think that comments about Donavon McNabb were racist when someone (Rush Limbaugh) said:

""I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."


He resigned over those comments. Floyd is no different in his racist remarks about Lin.

For once Limbaugh was right, McNabb was a good QB, but his skin color and the fact black dudes aren't QB's was the only reason people made a deal about him. If McNabb was white, or Lin were black they'd be names that only die hard sports fans knows. But because of their skin color just about in America knows who they are.
 
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Yao didn't do anything spectacular, yet he actually got way more mention than he even deserved. It wasn't because he was good, and it wasn't because he was tall. The fact he was Asian was the only possible reason I could see why he got any hype at all. He wasn't a bad player, but I heard about him far more than anyone else in the league who played on his level. Bottom line Ming got a lot of hype all things considered. Lin had a few great games, shit like that happens all the time in sports. A team's not doing well, and they have a break out player who helps them rack up a string of wins. It's a great story, the media ran with because he didn't fit what a good basketball player is suppose to look like. The media hype was because he was Asian. That doesn't take away from his ability to ball, but there wouldn't have been nicknames made up for a black ball player who went from a rookie to a game saver, I guess because that's not as out of the blue as an Asian dude who was playing all star class b-ball.

There wouldn't be a nickname if he wasn't Asian?? what nickname, are we talking puns on his last name, Linsanity? That's like calling Tebowmania a nickname, and last I checked, Tim Tebow was white.

Yao was a great player in this league, are you serious? He was a top 10 player that was absolutely unique in his size (7' 6"), his shooting touch, and post game. It's sad that he couldn't sustain it, but you could clearly see he was a great player when you watched him (or the stats). I think Yao definitely got hype because there are such few asians in the league, but the difference between the Yao hype and the Lin hype are orders of magnitude difference, that to me, can't be explained away simply by reasons of race. In Asian markets, obviously there's a ton of hype because of race, but in American media, there's more to it than race.

How many other players come up like this, flash in the pan, in the biggest media market of NY? Especially when they've been undrafted, cut several times, went to Harvard (not exactly known for NBA players), etc. A lot of the hype is because he was an underdog, and because a lot of NBA viewers can relate to him or know people like him, because his background is very upper-middle class and an educated background. He really had a tremendous ten game stretch to rescue a big market team that was really struggling despite a lot of preseason hype with the Amare/Chandler/Melo combo.

Obviously race plays a role in his underdog/unique status, but given the ridiculous media coverage (too much), I really believe it's a multitude of factors that equally contribute.
 

Phokus

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Settles what? He didn't say shit in that article about ducking anyone, he said "I don't fear no one" That article sounds like it was written by one of those Pactads. Manny's a great fighter, but a lot of his fans make it harder for a person to like him. If his health concerns are legit how and the hell's that ducking? I guess if he's at 80% health he should take the fight any ways? That worked great for Roy Jones and a host of other all time top 20 fighters.

Yet I'm sure the writer of the article wouldn't have shit to say about Pacman who turned down the 40 MILLION dollar offer Mayweather gave him, only to turn around and take another fight for I believe $8 million.

If "health concerns" were a valid reason, he wouldn't be fighting RIGHT NOW (he has an upcoming match with Cotto) and he'd be retired. In THAT context, 'health concerns' means he's afraid of Pac beating the living SHIT out of him.
 

SP33Demon

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You guys argue way too much about race and stupid ass boxing where both of these fighters have their opponents hand picked to make a buck off idiots who watch them.
 

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“I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”

I think he's right, I don't want to watch a scared fighter. At the same time, I don't want to watch a fighter who doesn't believe in his own skill enough to face real opponents. So maybe he's not scared, but he obviously doesn't think he has what it takes to win. When a fighter reaches that point, it's over and he's done.
 

QueBert

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“I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”

I think he's right, I don't want to watch a scared fighter. At the same time, I don't want to watch a fighter who doesn't believe in his own skill enough to face real opponents. So maybe he's not scared, but he obviously doesn't think he has what it takes to win. When a fighter reaches that point, it's over and he's done.

Just so you know, Mayweather had a contract drew up, he signed it and Bob Aurm took it to Manny and Manny didn't sign shit. He used the "40 million isn't enough money" excuse, but there was in fact a contract to fight which was signed by Floyd. If Manny had signed it and Floyd tried to back out it would have cost him millions of dollars when he got sued for breach of contract.
 

Howard

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I don't really care about either boxer, but QueBert is the biggest nuthugger on the planet since that annoying guy on DailyTech that has a Steve Jobs shrine.
 
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