FWIW the bruised arm wasn't from the vaccine, but your assessment was probably accurate. Person delivering the vaccine probably mangled a vein, causing bruising. Not terribly uncommon.I got my shot already this year. My arm got sore for a couple days and had a black and blue mark of some distinction, which I've never had before. I think these reactions are because the woman who gave me the shot was a newbie. She had that vibe. I'm still glad I got the shot. I hate being sick!!!!!
Then you actually got the flu before your body was able to make the the antibodies (2-3 weeks)
You can't get pneumonia from the flu vaccine.
Smart man. In these days of Crispr, 'Gene Drives', and well, let's just say "population control efforts", it would seem immensely risky to allow the gov't access to your bloodline.
I don't normally get the flu shot because the couple times I have, I still got the flu. And I always feel like crap for few days right after I get the flu shot.
Now I skip the flu shot and just try to avoid humans much as possible. I also try not to eat out as much during the flu season. If I do eat out, I stick with deep fried fast food. I figure deep frying will kill any germs and viruses.
While I believe this I am betting that if you approach someone that is going to give you a shot they may be a carrier of an activated flu that isn't effecting them will be transmitted to you. Imagine that person giving out shots by the hundreds. Not a chance they will cross-transfer something from that patient to you? About fifteen years ago I got a flu shot and was sick for six weeks. I didn't get another flu shot until last year. I didn't get sick last year. I am 1 for 1 in the paranoia department. HahahaFlu shot does NOT make you sick.
CDC saysMisconceptions about Flu Vaccines
Read more on common misconceptions about seasonal flu and flu vaccines effectiveness.www.cdc.gov
"In randomized, blinded studies, where some people get inactivated flu shots and others get salt-water shots, the only differences in symptoms was increased soreness in the arm and redness at the injection site among people who got the flu shot. There were no differences in terms of body aches, fever, cough, runny nose or sore throat"
It is interesting that people today have never had to experience the childhood disease nightmare of the 40's and 50's. Not witnessing infants with pertussis or the pained looks on parents faces when smallpox was infecting children. Not knowing if your child was going to be alive the next day is the kind of stress no family should go through.
Vaccines save lives. Anti-vaxxers take lives.
That's entirely possible.. I always figured that was what actually happened...but it seemed suspicious that I wasn't sick in the slightest--got the flu shot--got sick as a fucking dog.
I battled pneumonia for years. Almost any head/chest cold would turn into severe bronchitis or pneumonia. (Got severely gassed by anhydrous ammonia in my youth...left me with weakened respiratory system. damn near killed me.)
AND... it's always possible to get sick from a flu strain that the vaccination DIDN'T cover. When they put those together, it's kind of a hit/miss guessing game as to which strain(s) will hit the US and become problematic.
It's not improperly cooked food I'm worried about. It's improperly handled food. If the people in the kitchen or behind the counter are sick, they can transfer that to your food through improper handling. Fried food is relatively simple and they usually use baskets and tongs when handling it. There's always risk but I feel like fried food has the least risk. But I avoid eating at restaurants as much as I can during the peak flu season.That's not going to make much difference (the food being fried or not) as I don't think a lot of the flu is coming from improperly cooked food.
Also, its not about you, mother fuckers. When I have family members that are on immunosuppresants because of shit like heart transplants and the like, that's who I fucking care about. I don't want you spreading the germs (which you can do even if you don't "get the flu" which is why they push people to get the flu vaccine because its about trying to limit the amount that gets spread in the environment in order to protect the most vulnerable persons).
I'm all for people taking vaccines that are proven to work like smallpox. My family has all the required effective vaccines.It is interesting that people today have never had to experience the childhood disease nightmare of the 40's and 50's. Not witnessing infants with pertussis or the pained looks on parents faces when smallpox was infecting children. Not knowing if your child was going to be alive the next day is the kind of stress no family should go through.
Vaccines save lives. Anti-vaxxers take lives.
I'm all for people taking vaccines that are proven to work like smallpox. My family has all the required effective vaccine.
But flu vaccine? It may or may not work. So why take it? I may or may not get the flu with or without it.
Because it's the law?Why wear a seatbelt? If I get into an accident I might or might not die with our without it, so why wear one?
For those afraid of the needle, there is somethng called flu-mist, but its only for babbies and little kids.It's called herd immunity, dipshits. Stop being dummies and get the shot. Or are you afraid of the needle?
That's exactly it. I'm more of a pragmatist. Flu vaccine is like only 30% effective, and effectively "gives you the flu (symptoms)" when you get it. Why bother?I'm all for people taking vaccines that are proven to work like smallpox. My family has all the required effective vaccines.
But flu vaccine? It may or may not work. So why take it? I may or may not get the flu with or without it.
You're thinking about statistics incorrectly. The flu vaccine is very effective if the cdc and others predict the right version of flu to be protected against.That's exactly it. I'm more of a pragmatist. Flu vaccine is like only 30% effective, and effectively "gives you the flu (symptoms)" when you get it. Why bother?
Things like *pox vaccines, polio, Tdap, I'm all for. I got my Tdap booster a few years ago. I'm not anti-vaxx.
But the false hype around "you GOTTA get the flu vaccine" is BS.
It's so ineffective, it's not "herd immunity", it's "herd mentality".
Yup... cool. I got the first round of polio shots, they got better and better. Many deformed people are no doubt still around from pre-polio-vaccine days. I'm very high on vaccines. The first was Alfred Jenner's smallpox vaccine, discovered rather by accident when it was observed that people who'd been exposed to cow-pox didn't get smallpox. Cowpox is relatively very mild in humans, that was the very first vaccine (taken from vaca, or similar, latin I guess for cow).It is interesting that people today have never had to experience the childhood disease nightmare of the 40's and 50's. Not witnessing infants with pertussis or the pained looks on parents faces when smallpox was infecting children. Not knowing if your child was going to be alive the next day is the kind of stress no family should go through.
Vaccines save lives. Anti-vaxxers take lives.
Well, as illuminated in posts above, the flu vaccine each year is developed by injecting you with deactivated strains of flu thought to be most likely to be the ones most infecting people come flu season. You could still come down with one (maybe more) of those strains but you would likely have a milder infection. In fact, you may not be symptomatic. Plus, you'd very likely be less apt to confer the disease to others (i.e. spread it). They can be wrong, a strain not planned for could dominate. There's no guarantee. There are no guarantees in life. In general, however, more people getting innoculated translates to a less severe flu season for all year over year.I'm all for people taking vaccines that are proven to work like smallpox. My family has all the required effective vaccines.
But flu vaccine? It may or may not work. So why take it? I may or may not get the flu with or without it.
Larry, you're not an epidemiologist. Defer to the experts, get your flu shot. The flu's different from polio and smallpox. There are so many strains and they mutate all the time. There's no certainty that a flu shot will protect you but you are less likely to come down with it and if you do get flu it's apt to be a milder case... this is on average. The people doing this stuff are in a position to do studies. It's done. Overall, it works.That's exactly it. I'm more of a pragmatist. Flu vaccine is like only 30% effective, and effectively "gives you the flu (symptoms)" when you get it. Why bother?
Things like *pox vaccines, polio, Tdap, I'm all for. I got my Tdap booster a few years ago. I'm not anti-vaxx.
But the false hype around "you GOTTA get the flu vaccine" is BS.
It's so ineffective, it's not "herd immunity", it's "herd mentality".
I mean, if "they", at some point in the future, actually came out with a flu vaccine that prevented the flu, then I would consider it.
Also, think of it this way, WHY, do you need to get it EVERY year, and YET, it's not notably EFFECTIVE?
All of my other vaccines, you take every 10-20 years or so. And they are basically 100% effective. To me, THAT's what a vaccine SHOULD BE. The "Flu Vaccine", is ANYTHING BUT.
If we've "virtually eliminated polio", due to childhood vaccinations (that DON'T have to be given, EVERY YEAR), then why hasn't the FLU been WIPED OFF OF THE EARTH, with ALL of that "herd immunity"?
And if the so-called "Flu 'vaccine'", isn't effective against eliminating Flu off of this planet, then what is it REALLY doing?
Again... "population control".
Yeah, and I'm for laws that make it hard to not get, say, the measles vaccine. And harder for people to weasel out of them because they fall prey to stupid propaganda.Because it's the law?
It's also still possible to get sick with other things called "flu". I got the "stomach flu" once - I think it was a norovirus. Sick as a dog for a day or two, lots of vomiting, then all better after another couple of days. That's not the real flu, though.AND... it's always possible to get sick from a flu strain that the vaccination DIDN'T cover.
It is interesting that people today have never had to experience the childhood disease nightmare of the 40's and 50's. Not witnessing infants with pertussis or the pained looks on parents faces when smallpox was infecting children. Not knowing if your child was going to be alive the next day is the kind of stress no family should go through.
Vaccines save lives. Anti-vaxxers take lives.
Why???Fact of the day .... get a flu shot from a doctor... not from your local pharmacy.
It's called herd immunity, dipshits. Stop being dummies and get the shot. Or are you afraid of the needle?