Flu shot makes you sick

[BoomerD]

It's even more possible to get sick from the flu strains that you didn't get vaccinated for, but could have...

Only if those strains happen to be the ones they guessed would be problematic...

I KNOW, in the "common sense/logical" part of my brain that you can't get the flu from the flu vavcine...but dammit, when I get the flu shot and get sicker than hell within a few days...it SEEMS like, logic be damned, that the flu vaccine made me sick.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Ive been getting flu vaccines since 1902,,,,,,,,,I still alive and kicking!

 

[someone16]

Thinking it's more likely because you have to go to a clinic to get the shot, and the clinic has a bunch of sick people spreading germs. People in North America don't like to wear a mask when they have cold symptoms so it might spread easy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yeah, I have an intense irrational phobia of needles, specifically of being pierced. Pretty much sends me into a panic attack whenever I'm forced to get my blood drawn. I have no clue where that even comes from, but it's fucking awful. If I could drink the flu vaccine, I'd 100% do it every year. Sorry.

I believe that they have, at one time, offered a "nasal spray" version of the flu vaccine. Can't tell you how it compares to the injectable forms.

 

[Luna1968]

Why wear a seatbelt? If I get into an accident I might or might not die with our without it, so why wear one?

because a seat belt isnt injecting a foreign bug into my system that has a low chance of working, its a crap shoot of what strain the vaccine is for and what the actual outbreak is going to be and a seat-belt is law. damn come up with better analogies.

 

[Captante]

Why???

Was wondering about this myself ... ?

I believe that they have, at one time, offered a "nasal spray" version of the flu vaccine. Can't tell you how it compares to the injectable forms.

They still do have it ... supposed to be slightly less effective from what I've read.

 

[rh71]

Somehow this turned into an anti-vax topic. Nowhere did I say they were getting the flu or anything like it. Nowhere did I say I was against the shot. Read the title again. Congestion and runny nose, for what is now a week, is still sick. From the shot. Plain and simple.

Those who said "yes it can happen" or "it happened to me too" is the reason I posted. Those who said "it's not how it works" evidently are too quick to stick to their guns.

 

[VashHT]

Somehow this turned into an anti-vax topic. Nowhere did I say they were getting the flu or anything like it. Nowhere did I say I was against the shot. Read the title again. Congestion and runny nose, for what is now a week, is still sick. From the shot. Plain and simple.

Those who said "yes it can happen" or "it happened to me too" is the reason I posted. Those who said "it's not how it works" evidently are too quick to stick to their guns.

Why do you assume it's from the shot? More likely they picked up a cold somewhere, it's just a coincidence. Thinking the flu shot can give you a cold is weird, like how do you think that even works?

 

[Brainonska511]

Why do you assume it's from the shot? More likely they picked up a cold somewhere, it's just a coincidence. Thinking the flu shot can give you a cold is weird, like how do you think that even works?

The idea that the flu shot can make people sick (in the cold and flu sense) is also not consistent at all with the current medical knowledge. You could get some general symptoms related to immune reactions from a vaccine, but you just cannot get the flu or a cold from the shot.

 

[mistercrabby]

Somehow this turned into an anti-vax topic. Nowhere did I say they were getting the flu or anything like it. Nowhere did I say I was against the shot. Read the title again. Congestion and runny nose, for what is now a week, is still sick. From the shot. Plain and simple.

Those who said "yes it can happen" or "it happened to me too" is the reason I posted. Those who said "it's not how it works" evidently are too quick to stick to their guns.

You should read your post, as you definitely assert your kids got sick as a direct cause of getting the shot. And now you just reiterated it. Anti-vax, totally.

It’s like saying a black cat crossed your path and the cow died...

Like I said, sorry your kids aren’t feeling good and hope they get better soon.

This topic overall regards a public health emergency. It’s important we get educated and critically evaluate the science and the nonsense.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

My housemate's a schoolteacher. She gets sick every fall, whether she gets the flu shot in September or waits until later. Your children are filthy and so is their school. They're more than likely fighting off something, and it's probably not influenza.

Also her allergy symptoms have been particularly terrible this year.

I get the flu shot every year, around October 1st. (So I guess I'm due... might do it tomorrow.) I'm one of those people that gets a big bruise and some injection site swelling, but I had a pretty bad bout with the flu (actual "kick-your-ass-muscle-aches-104F-fever-and-honestly-considering-shitting-your-pants-because-you're-too-tired-to-walk-to-the-bathroom mother-forking-influenza", not a "stomach flu" or "I have a head cold but I'm going to call it the flu") in high school and am pretty dead-set against doing that again.

 

[JM Aggie08]

This kind of misinformation is dangerous. Just rub some essential oils on them, OP.

 

[Elfear]

I look at it this way. If I get the flu shot, it's 100% going to make me feel like crap for several days right afterwards. Then it's 50/50 chance whether I still get the flu that year or not.

But if I don't get the flu shot, I'm not going to suffer that crap feeling I get right after the flu shot. And there's still 50/50 chance I get the flu or not that year. And it's strange that the year I get the flu is usually the year I got the flu shot more often than not.

This is me 100%. The last few times I got the flu shot I came down with flu-like symptoms and it sucked.

Reading through this thread I think there is some definite miscommunication going on. It doesn't look like anyone is saying they've gotten sick from the flu shot is an anti-vaxxer (notice I wrote "sick" not getting the "flu or a cold"). Multiple people who hesitate to get a flu shot are in favor of vaccines (me included, all my kids have their vaccinations up to date).

Even the Mayo Clinic acknowledges that getting a flu shot can cause people to feel sick. It sounds like that's all the OP is saying.

Can the vaccine give me the flu?

No. The flu vaccine can't give you the flu. But you might develop flu-like symptoms — despite getting a flu vaccine — for a variety of reasons, including:

• Reaction to the vaccine. Some people experience muscle aches and a fever for a day or two after receiving a flu vaccine. This may be a side effect of your body's production of protective antibodies.
• The two-week window. It takes about two weeks for the flu shot to take full effect. If you're exposed to the influenza virus shortly before or during that time period, you might catch the flu.
• Mismatched flu viruses. In some years, the influenza viruses used for the vaccine don't match the viruses circulating during the flu season. If this occurs, your flu shot will be less effective, but may still offer some protection.
• Other illnesses. Many other illnesses, such as the common cold, also produce flu-like symptoms. So you may think you have the flu when you actually don't.

 

[kn51]

Got the double whammy today. Flu shot along along with a Tdap.

I'm sure I'll be dead by tomorrow. Total cost for both: $0.

 

[Iron Woode]

Got the double whammy today. Flu shot along along with a Tdap.

I'm sure I'll be dead by tomorrow. Total cost for both: $0.

you require a tetanus booster every 10 years. You also require a pertussis booster as well.

 

[Iron Woode]

Somehow this turned into an anti-vax topic. Nowhere did I say they were getting the flu or anything like it. Nowhere did I say I was against the shot. Read the title again. Congestion and runny nose, for what is now a week, is still sick. From the shot. Plain and simple.

Those who said "yes it can happen" or "it happened to me too" is the reason I posted. Those who said "it's not how it works" evidently are too quick to stick to their guns.

That sort of thing happens with these threads.

My quote:

the immune system ramps up when it is stimulated by the vaccine. That's the whole point of vaccination.

Some people will get mild symptoms from a flu shot. Others could get a serious allergic reaction. No one said it doesn't happen. You just don't the flu from the flu shot is all.

 

[FirNaTine]

Thinking it's more likely because you have to go to a clinic to get the shot, and the clinic has a bunch of sick people spreading germs. People in North America don't like to wear a mask when they have cold symptoms so it might spread easy.

That is very likely a factor, but it’s hard to currently quantify. I’m not sure how many doctors would line up to participate in a study of how often people get sick from coming into a clinic setting. Most offices post signs about mask usage if you have symptoms, but the symptomatic period does not always equal the contagious period. In other words, you can look/feel OK, but be shedding virus particles all over the place.

I’m young and healthy enough to survive all the but the worst of the flu (though there’s been a few pandemics they have hit that group hard over the years.) But, I’m often around the frail and elderly (firefighter/paramedic), so it’s the morally responsible thing for me to get it anyway, to protect my patients.

 

[rh71]

You should read your post, as you definitely assert your kids got sick as a direct cause of getting the shot. And now you just reiterated it. Anti-vax, totally.

How do you come to that conclusion when I clearly stated both my kids as well as myself get the shot every year? That I plan for this to happen every year? I didn't just assert they get sick, I clearly stated it as the main point of the post. Saying they get sick and still taking the vaccine is not possible? Is the world and every topic within just black and white, without objectivity?

The idea that the flu shot can make people sick (in the cold and flu sense) is also not consistent at all with the current medical knowledge. You could get some general symptoms related to immune reactions from a vaccine, but you just cannot get the flu or a cold from the shot.

Exactly - symptoms. Nowhere did I say they had a cold. I used words like stuffy nose, congestion, and slight cough. Is that not sick? After not being sick for months on end, and they get this the same week following the shot?

 

[Muse]

After not being sick for months on end, and they get this the same week following the shot?

You deduce the shot resulted in them getting sick. Of course, an epidemiologist would not jump to that conclusion.

If a person gets a flu shot and gets sick the next day, it is NOT for certain that the two are related.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If you get punched in the face, and you get a black-and-blue mark around your eye the next day, it is NOT for certain that the two are related.

(Maybe it was just a heartofore unknown peanut allergy, and those cookies you ate yesterday, were processed in a facility that handled peanuts.)

I mean, it's not like... cause and effect is obvious in the real world...

 

[FirNaTine]

If you get punched in the face, and you get a black-and-blue mark around your eye the next day, it is NOT for certain that the two are related.

(Maybe it was just a heartofore unknown peanut allergy, and those cookies you ate yesterday, were processed in a facility that handled peanuts.)

I mean, it's not like... cause and effect is obvious in the real world...

Your argument makes about as much sense as claiming whoever the last guy to sleep with a woman is her baby’s father, not the one she was with around 40 weeks before the birth.

 

[Iron Woode]

If you get punched in the face, and you get a black-and-blue mark around your eye the next day, it is NOT for certain that the two are related.

(Maybe it was just a heartofore unknown peanut allergy, and those cookies you ate yesterday, were processed in a facility that handled peanuts.)

I mean, it's not like... cause and effect is obvious in the real world...

correlation does not equal causation.

you get your vaccines when you are little and a few months or years later that child develops autism. One did not cause the other.

 

[Brainonska511]

Exactly - symptoms. Nowhere did I say they had a cold. I used words like stuffy nose, congestion, and slight cough. Is that not sick? After not being sick for months on end, and they get this the same week following the shot?

Slight symptoms doesn't always mean "sick" as in "having a cold". It seems like you're simply linking two independent events in time and assuming that one caused the other. They're kids - they can easily pick up germs anywhere.

 

[whm1974]

correlation does not equal causation.

you get your vaccines when you are little and a few months or years later that child develops autism. One did not cause the other.

If vaccines actually did caused Autism how come why we don't see many more children developing this condition?

 

[JTsyo]

You know what's worse than the flu shot? The flu nasal spray. I tried that one year and it got me feeling pretty run down with cold symptoms. I choose shots now.