Food allergies: People think they're funny, but they're not.

[CraKaJaX]

A separate table in the cafeteria for those with allergies solves the problem.

Yea, you're right. Telling the asshole kids to stop doing stupid shit to the kid with allergies isn't the right answer here.

 

[Gillbot]

Teach your kids some respect for other people ffs.

I'll just quote this, because we deal with the same issue and people are assholes. Before, it was RESPECTFUL to mind your manners, avoid things and do unto others. Now it's just funny to fuck with people and screw over others. Welcome to the Kardashian generation........

 

[Gillbot]

Guess what, in the world outside the super-controlled environment of a school no one is going to do anything to accommodate someone else's medical issues. It's not being an asshat, it's called everyone can't watch out for every single problem every other person might have else all life would grind to a halt. Oh, that person has peanut allergies so I should get on a different subway car since I brought PBJ for my lunch. Oh, that other person is extremely sensitive to fragrances so I gotta get on yet another subway car because I wore deodorant today. Oh, this person gets migraines so the subway car fluorescent lighting needs to be turned off for the next 8 stops and make the rest of us ride in the dark. And so on.

At some point it becomes the responsibility of the person with the problem to look out for themselves as otherwise we'd require the same oppressive oversight that schoolchildren have. We're not going to set up separate "no peanuts" airplanes for you to ride. We're not going to tell coworkers what they can eat, wear, or do beyond the trivial. Life is dangerous, and teaching kids they can have the expectation that people will be mindful of their particular needs isn't the right thing to do.

The difference here is people going out of their way to intentionally inconvenience someone else. There is no need to be a general asshole about it.

 

[brianmanahan]

Sunny - have you guys looked into desensitizing therapy for your kids? It's proving to be very effective in clinical trials.

also desensitizing is proven to be effective in historic context

mithradates vi of pontus built up his immunity to poison over a long period of time

and then when he tried to commit suicide with poison as the romans closed in on him, guess what? it didn't work, because he had built up immunity.

so he had to have somebody kill him with a sword instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridates_VI_of_Pontus#Death

 

[NoTine42]

I'm not sure the the last time, if ever, I had a S'more with peanuts in it... although chocolate tends to be processed in facilities with nuts so should be avoid anyways.



So does those around them not intentionally trying to kill them... but attempted murder is okay to you?

you should try Smores with a Reece's cup instead of chocolate bar

But, yes, both sides of the peanut issue should respect each other. I would be horrified if my kid purposely tried to contaminate someone with an allergy.

I would be equally mad if the allergy crowd prohibited but products in school. We get to manage hypoglycemia... with regular protien consumption multiple times during the day. Without refrigeration in a locker, that mostly means nut products and beef jerky.

 

[SunnyD]

Guess what, in the world outside the super-controlled environment of a school no one is going to do anything to accommodate someone else's medical issues. It's not being an asshat, it's called everyone can't watch out for every single problem every other person might have else all life would grind to a halt. Oh, that person has peanut allergies so I should get on a different subway car since I brought PBJ for my lunch. Oh, that other person is extremely sensitive to fragrances so I gotta get on yet another subway car because I wore deodorant today. Oh, this person gets migraines so the subway car fluorescent lighting needs to be turned off for the next 8 stops and make the rest of us ride in the dark. And so on.

At some point it becomes the responsibility of the person with the problem to look out for themselves as otherwise we'd require the same oppressive oversight that schoolchildren have. We're not going to set up separate "no peanuts" airplanes for you to ride. We're not going to tell coworkers what they can eat, wear, or do beyond the trivial. Life is dangerous, and teaching kids they can have the expectation that people will be mindful of their particular needs isn't the right thing to do.

You also apparently didn't read the post. I didn't once ask for people to accommodate my kids. I asked for people to teach their kids not to act like total assholes to other people. If you bothered to read the post in the slightest, you'd have realized that my two boys go out of their way to accommodate everybody else by tolerating the shitbag bullying that goes on at the expense of their allergies, and they do it with grace all while looking out for themselves. So how about you take your little rant and shove it up your ass along with your peanuts because MY kids know responsibility and respect, which neither you seem to know.

 

[glenn1]

The difference here is people going out of their way to intentionally inconvenience someone else. There is no need to be a general asshole about it.

Why not, it happens every day in lots of contexts beyond peanuts. From the people who whine about people texting at traffic lights, thus delaying traffic behind them for a precious second or two. Or the "manspreading" complaints about NYC subway riders. Or the Occupy Ferguson people who stood in the middle of an interstate highway blocking traffic. Or the Occupy Wall Street people who were just loitering being general nuisances. Hell, unless you live in a cave someone people who intentionally inconvenience other people is a fact of daily life and "peanut allergy sufferers" aren't immune to it. Hell, the OP's son is probably guilty of causing "intentional inconvenience" himself at times.

 

[Humpy]

Before, it was RESPECTFUL to mind your manners, avoid things and do unto others. Now it's just funny to fuck with people and screw over others. Welcome to the Kardashian generation........

Before what? You're not really equating kids fucking around and being disrespectful to some new thing called the Kardashian generation are you? :|

 

[DrPizza]

You also apparently didn't read the post. I didn't once ask for people to accommodate my kids. I asked for people to teach their kids not to act like total assholes to other people. If you bothered to read the post in the slightest, you'd have realized that my two boys go out of their way to accommodate everybody else by tolerating the shitbag bullying that goes on at the expense of their allergies, and they do it with grace all while looking out for themselves. So how about you take your little rant and shove it up your ass along with your peanuts because MY kids know responsibility and respect, which neither you seem to know.

I agree with you - the problem isn't your son, it's the kids he's eating lunch with. I work with teens every day - I'm a high school teacher. The vast majority of the kids I know would not do what your son's "friends" do. Your son's "friends" are assholes and aren't his friends. Tell him to get some new friends.

I'm curious because of the data given by a poster above - did you or the Mrs. avoid peanut butter when the kids were little?

 

[Humpy]

I don't know OP. making a thread linking PB&J's with deadly bullying, some sort of additional classroom food allergy education for other students, your kid being a "kind soul" while the rest are jerks, wanting other parents to meet your parenting expectations, etc. all seem to point to a desire for the world to bend to your circumstances, i.e. accommodate.

 

[ControlD]

I keep hoping my daughter will be allergic to nuts as well once she hits her teenage years.

 

[Jumpem]

So does those around them not intentionally trying to kill them... but attempted murder is okay to you?

Other kids shouldn't be morons. But they should still be allowed to have peanut butter at lunch.

 

[Jumpem]

Yea, you're right. Telling the asshole kids to stop doing stupid shit to the kid with allergies isn't the right answer here.

That is perfectly acceptable.

 

[gorcorps]

I'll just quote this, because we deal with the same issue and people are assholes. Before, it was RESPECTFUL to mind your manners, avoid things and do unto others. Now it's just funny to fuck with people and screw over others. Welcome to the Kardashian generation........

I'm so sick and tired of people blaming "generations" as if there's no worthless shits in their own age group. Nevermind that in order for an entire generation to be a disappointment, their parents have to have failed in raising them. And to have such incompetent parents, THEIR parents didn't raise them properly either. Every older generation has had an affect on the brats that are currently getting blamed as being the worst generation ever. It doesn't matter what generation you fall under, if you have offspring and have this opinion of the current generation, you're just as much to blame. The only people who can claim innocence to how things are at the moment are the ones who haven't spawned their own little fuck-ups to add to the pool.

 

[Ruptga]

Why do you even have kids if there are too many people on the planet already?

 

[SunnyD]

I agree with you - the problem isn't your son, it's the kids he's eating lunch with. I work with teens every day - I'm a high school teacher. The vast majority of the kids I know would not do what your son's "friends" do. Your son's "friends" are assholes and aren't his friends. Tell him to get some new friends.

I'm curious because of the data given by a poster above - did you or the Mrs. avoid peanut butter when the kids were little?

My older son's friends don't do this. It's other kids around that associate in the grander social circle that cause issues.

Regarding your question, interesting story about my younger son before we knew he had any sort of allergy. My wife and I went to one of the restaurants that has the buckets of peanuts on the tables for you to munch on while you wait when my son was about a year and change or so. Figuring my son might be somewhat interested in peanuts since he was moderately amused in the art of smashing them open, I placed a couple in front of him. He had absolutely no interest in them despite seeing me and mom eat them. The smashing of the peanuts looked fun for a bit, but other than that he had no desire to eat them. Even when I picked one up and offered it to him he turned away and was all like "Nope."

We never actively avoided any particular foods while our kids were young. It wasn't until our kids had any sort of specific reactions to things that we would opt to follow up with allergy testing. I have one that's allergic to pork, one that's allergic to soy, two allergic to dairy & nuts, one not allergic to anything at all (other than bees). Thankfully we've had no serious (hospital) reactions, but we have been to the doctor a couple times.

Why do you even have kids if there are too many people on the planet already?

Had em before idiots started breeding at a geometric rate.

 

[SunnyD]

I don't know OP. making a thread linking PB&J's with deadly bullying, some sort of additional classroom food allergy education for other students, your kid being a "kind soul" while the rest are jerks, wanting other parents to meet your parenting expectations, etc. all seem to point to a desire for the world to bend to your circumstances, i.e. accommodate.

Okay, you got me. Not being a shitbag to people in general would be accommodating to my circumstances and mine alone.

Other kids shouldn't be morons. But they should still be allowed to have peanut butter at lunch.

I have no problems with people bringing peanut butter whatever for their lunches. Just be friggin conscious of the fact that people around you might be allergic to it and for the love of god don't try to smear it all over the person you're sitting next to just for shits and giggles.

 

[HumblePie]

There is a reason many ancient religious and ruling texts of various cultures "banned" food types. People die from shell fish allergies, which back then can't be explained by anything except as maligned spirits or something. The devil in them. So with no way to find a root cause they are just "banned" as something sinful for eating.

Still I feel for you SunnyD. Glad I'm personally not allergic to anything beyond stupid people, but since I have a 1 year old now we are in that fun phase of slowly letting him try everything and hope he isn't either.

 

[MongGrel]

OK.

You want everyone to accommodate your delicate little snowflakes.

This is new and exciting.

Guess what, in the world outside the super-controlled environment of a school no one is going to do anything to accommodate someone else's medical issues. It's not being an asshat, it's called everyone can't watch out for every single problem every other person might have else all life would grind to a halt. Oh, that person has peanut allergies so I should get on a different subway car since I brought PBJ for my lunch. Oh, that other person is extremely sensitive to fragrances so I gotta get on yet another subway car because I wore deodorant today. Oh, this person gets migraines so the subway car fluorescent lighting needs to be turned off for the next 8 stops and make the rest of us ride in the dark. And so on.

At some point it becomes the responsibility of the person with the problem to look out for themselves as otherwise we'd require the same oppressive oversight that schoolchildren have. We're not going to set up separate "no peanuts" airplanes for you to ride. We're not going to tell coworkers what they can eat, wear, or do beyond the trivial. Life is dangerous, and teaching kids they can have the expectation that people will be mindful of their particular needs isn't the right thing to do.

Twats.

There is a huge difference in trying to intentionally poison someone than just wanting to be left alone and eat lunch.

 

[Ns1]

honestly with what, 9 billion people ruining this planet, we could stand to shed a few from natural causes.

 

[brianmanahan]

honestly with what, 9 billion people ruining this planet, we could stand to shed a few from natural causes.

this is probably the most insensitive thing i've seen all day

and i spent like 8 hours on ATOT and reddit, so that's saying a lot

 

[Ns1]

this is probably the most insensitive thing i've seen all day

and i spent like 8 hours on ATOT and reddit, so that's saying a lot

you're absolutely right - the person who made that comment is a dick.

 

[OverVolt]

also desensitizing is proven to be effective in historic context

mithradates vi of pontus built up his immunity to poison over a long period of time

and then when he tried to commit suicide with poison as the romans closed in on him, guess what? it didn't work, because he had built up immunity.

so he had to have somebody kill him with a sword instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridates_VI_of_Pontus#Death

I'm guessing you don't build an immunity to swords is the moral of the story here?

 

[MongGrel]

Give your kids a squirt bottle with some acid in it. When someone exposes them to peanuts, let them be "exposed" to some acid. An eye for an eye, I always say.

Sorry to hear this OP. While I hate the whole "let's ban anything that someone might possibly be allergic to" movement, it's downright stupid for those moron children to intentionally try to injure your kids.

:sneaky:

 

[SunnyD]

honestly with what, 9 billion people ruining this planet, we could stand to shed a few from natural causes.

I agree. But can we at least not be assholes about it?