Food Pyramid Is Changing

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: GoatHerderEd
Originally posted by: aircooled
cause kids keep getting fatter
[SING] GOD BLESS AMERICAN, LAND OF THE...[/SING] FAT!

Much of Europe is dealing with it's own explosion in obesity rates.
I think germany in fact has beaten america in some regards. France is thin, but some of those european countries are in good company now! ZYum!

 

BillyBatson

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kids are getting fat but not because of the food pyramid... what kid actually eats according to the fod pyramid? most kids don;t even tell their parents what they want to eat and i have never seen a parent cook based on that stupid pyramid
 

ch33zw1z

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eat less pre-packaged crap...i.e. chips, cookies, soda....etc. go outside and do something you fat fvcks!

as for the food pyramid, what a load of crap. everyone's needs are different.
 

QuitBanningMe

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Fast food isn't making people fat. Excessive calories from carbohydrates is.

Stop eating snack foods and drinking soda/ juice and the problem is solved.

Oh and dressing is not a problem with salad. If you can't handle 120 calories you have problems elsewhere.
 

91TTZ

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People need to take responsibility for themselves.

The fact that people blame their obesity on someone ELSE is comical, and underlines the entire reason that they got fat in the first place- they can't control themselves like they should be doing.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Fast food isn't making people fat. Excessive calories from carbohydrates is.

Stop eating snack foods and drinking soda/ juice and the problem is solved.

Oh and dressing is not a problem with salad. If you can't handle 120 calories you have problems elsewhere.

Excessive calories period and lack of physical activity is making people fat.

The low carb craze is just as silly, and dangerous as the low fat craze was.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Amused

The low carb craze is just as silly, and dangerous as the low fat craze was.

I've been counting calories and refining my diet for a while, and restricting the amount and type of carbs that I eat is the only thing that keeps me in shape. I can't eat white bread or sugar or I'll fall asleep. A single slice of pizza will put me out in 20 minutes, the sleepiness that sets in is irresistable.

I also have problems with diabetes in my family, and insulin insensitivity is a problem also. But I'm not making any excuses, I did what works and I'm in shape.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Fast food isn't making people fat. Excessive calories from carbohydrates is.

Stop eating snack foods and drinking soda/ juice and the problem is solved.

Oh and dressing is not a problem with salad. If you can't handle 120 calories you have problems elsewhere.

Excessive calories period and lack of physical activity is making people fat.

The low carb craze is just as silly, and dangerous as the low fat craze was.

I agree totally.

I can (and do) eat a lot of fast food, but if I work on my portions a little and get off my lazy ass and exercise I always lose weight. My problem is just not being lazy.
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Fast food isn't making people fat. Excessive calories from carbohydrates is.

Stop eating snack foods and drinking soda/ juice and the problem is solved.

Oh and dressing is not a problem with salad. If you can't handle 120 calories you have problems elsewhere.

Excessive calories period and lack of physical activity is making people fat.

The low carb craze is just as silly, and dangerous as the low fat craze was.

Where are most of those calories coming from?

I didn't say "everybody needs to be on Atkins".

Also how is low carb dangerous.
 

Nozirev

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dguy6789
If they got rid of fast food all together, then america would stop being the fattest nation. Now how to get rid of the nations ignorance??

How about we get rid of your ignorance, first?

The explosion in obesity rates does not correlate with the popularity of fast food. The obesity epidemic started 20 years after fast food became very common and popular.

Nope, the one cultural change obesity correlates with is the advent of cable/sat TV, video games, and the Internet. And what do people do when they sit on their asses all day? They MUNCH.

So while snacking and snack foods are a problem, the lack of activity is the main problem that leads to weight gain, AND overeating.

Active people are not only thin because they are active, but because you can't eat or munch while you're being physically active. They eat less because they are moving more.

This mindless blaming of fast food, or ANY food for obesity is much like blaming guns for crime. Not only is it wrong, it's ignorant of history and the facts.

So you saying that sitting around and playing video games and watching TV all day long isn't good for children's weight?
 

Parrotheader

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What about an execrice pyramid? Physical activity (or the lack thereof) is likely just as much at blame, yet food choices get all the headlines. It seems the current physical activity pyramid for most kids is:

-0 servings strenuous physical activity
-1 serving moderate physical activity (inadvertently breaking a sweat doing 'light' work)
-2 servings light physical activity (i.e., actual walking to/from places)
-352 servings sitting on your butt watching TV, playing video games and surfing the web.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Fast food isn't making people fat. Excessive calories from carbohydrates is.

Stop eating snack foods and drinking soda/ juice and the problem is solved.

Oh and dressing is not a problem with salad. If you can't handle 120 calories you have problems elsewhere.

Excessive calories period and lack of physical activity is making people fat.

The low carb craze is just as silly, and dangerous as the low fat craze was.

Where are most of those calories coming from?

I didn't say "everybody needs to be on Atkins".

Also how is low carb dangerous.

Low fat and low carb diets are harder to maintain than simply eating right and exercising. Fad diets fail miserably and dieters end up fatter than they were when they started.

Yo-yo dieting is one of the major causes of obesity. Normally chubby people who yo-yo diet end up fatter each time, and will, after time, cross into obesity.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Parrotheader
What about an execrice pyramid? Physical activity (or the lack thereof) is likely just as much at blame, yet food choices get all the headlines. It seems the current physical activity pyramid for most kids is:

-0 servings strenuous physical activity
-1 serving moderate physical activity (inadvertently breaking a sweat doing 'light' work)
-2 servings light physical activity (i.e., actual walking to/from places)
-352 servings sitting on your butt watching TV, playing video games and surfing the web.

Do they still do PE? We used to have PE every year, then in about 8th grade, they just stopped making us do it. I say that kids need one hour of good, solid PE every school day from K-12.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Do they still do PE? We used to have PE every year, then in about 8th grade, they just stopped making us do it. I say that kids need one hour of good, solid PE every school day from K-12.

No, because limpwrists decided that it's "hurtful" to the feelings of fat kids. I guess it's convenient to ignore that a lack of exercize is hurtful to their health.
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Fast food isn't making people fat. Excessive calories from carbohydrates is.

Stop eating snack foods and drinking soda/ juice and the problem is solved.

Oh and dressing is not a problem with salad. If you can't handle 120 calories you have problems elsewhere.

Excessive calories period and lack of physical activity is making people fat.

The low carb craze is just as silly, and dangerous as the low fat craze was.

Where are most of those calories coming from?

I didn't say "everybody needs to be on Atkins".

Also how is low carb dangerous.

Low fat and low carb diets are harder to maintain than simply eating right and exercising. Fad diets fail miserably and dieters end up fatter than they were when they started.

Yo-yo dieting is one of the major causes of obesity. Normally chubby people who yo-yo diet end up fatter each time, and will, after time, cross into obesity.

You say "eating right". Most peoples excess calories aren't fat calories. You keep assuming I'm advocating a low carb diet. I'm just saying cut the calories where they are at.

Coke has 0 calories form fat.
100% from carbs
 

PingSpike

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On topic: Does anyone else think that food pyramid is fvcked up anyway? Doesn't it advocate eating buttloads of pasta, bread, etc, etc with relatively little meat? It doesn't even specify whole wheat.

Like that other guy said...

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Why would the food triangle be developed by the department of agriculture? That is like letting your car salesman develop a maintenence schedule for your vehicle.
 

Rogue

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Here's the solution, an exercise bike that generates power for the attached television set. You pedal or you don't see what's on the TV screen. See how simple that is?
 
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