Food stamps for KFC and tacobell ?

[GTaudiophile]

Then we get to pay for their health costs resulting from the junk food consumption...

 

[werepossum]

Conservatives, they rant about poor people being able to store and prepare food, then they rant about getting cheap prepared food with food stamps.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/...eport-that-says-poor-people-arent-really-poor

A comedian ripping a Heritage Foundation article about relative poverty does NOT equal conservatives ranting about "poor people being able to store and prepare food", even when you square the moonbattery by filtering through the DailyKooks.

Personally I'm also ambivalent here. What happens to people who do not have facilities to prepare food, but are on food stamps? KFC is probably overkill, but Taco Bell offers some decent meals for two bucks. I know, I eat 'em. Spending some food stamps on fast food does mean less money in the account for healthier food, but let's face it - there are damned few people on food stamps who couldn't stand to miss a meal or two anyway. If there are people on food stamps who would like to spend that money at Red Lobster, either they are cheating the system or they are hiding a boyfriend who supports them. In that case, either investigate such expenditures to crack down on fraud, or let them have an occasional greasy fast food meal.

Just as grocers have to qualify, so would fast food restaurants have to qualify. So it doesn't necessarily follow that KFC must be followed by Red Lobster. Restaurants could be allowed in based on price and/or healthy alternatives (LOL) and would probably even pay to get on the approved list - which would be better than their corporations paying lobbyists to get them on the approved list.

I hate to agree with Craig on principle, but I can't get all foamy over this. Maybe tomorrow . . .

Then we get to pay for their health costs resulting from the junk food consumption...

You have a point.

 

[soulcougher73]

fast food should be a great incentive for them to want to get off food stamps /facepalm

Bread and water is all they need to survive long enough to be motivated to get off welfare etc.

 

[momeNt]

The "cost" of this snowballs into obesity related diseases which also have to be paid for since if they need food assistance, they also will need healthcare assistance.

Pretty sure both Taco bell and KFC have some of the highest calories per $, so expect the inverse relationship with obesity and income to get even more inverse.

 

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[dmcowen674]

Corporate greed knows no limits.

The snake grows longer everyday

 

[ShawnD1]

Man, now I am getting upset. It is enough that people already abuse food stamps but now they want them to be usable at KFC ?

Believe it or not, fast food is cheaper than real food. I cooked a duck last week and that bastard was $14!

If you make it so food stamps won't buy Taco Bell, then food stamps shouldn't cover anything more expensive than Taco Bell. That means no more meat or cheese. I'd be fine with that too. People should learn to cook cheaper food like rice or pasta when they're poor.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Believe it or not, fast food is cheaper than real food. I cooked a duck last week and that bastard was $14!

If you make it so food stamps won't buy Taco Bell, then food stamps shouldn't cover anything more expensive than Taco Bell. That means no more meat or cheese. I'd be fine with that too. People should learn to cook cheaper food like rice or pasta when they're poor.

i hear ya on that one.

i guess it could work if you go to TB or KFC and they got a 'SNAP' menu with 'approved' benefit meals rather then letting them go hog wild with a shitload of tacos or buckets of chicken with no limit.

totally agree that those barely making it need to cook cheaper food. rice and beans is a great starter. but why when we breed and foster a culture of laziness and entitlement.

why prepare rice and beans when i can buy the frozen food thats both expensive and not as nutritious. why should i not max the benefits every month? id rather sell them if dont have any more room in my freezer.

maybe this limitation of selection will trickle down to SNAP. ive always recommended that they should just end SNAP altogether and just expand WIC to include the truly needy including men that need it, and lower target enrollment by slashing the qualifying income down even further. food is getting expensive amidst an all-time record enrollment.

but nothing cheeses me more at the grocery store than me having to be frugal on what i want while obviously someone who isnt paying for their groceries doesnt give a damn and hasnt a care on their mind about it.

 

[blackangst1]

What is the total cost of this issue (the difference between allowing food stamps for fast food and restricting it to groceries)?

And how does that amount fit into the issues facing our country economically?

I look forward to your answer to see how much you are raving about nothing.

It's amazing how irrational people are about a penny wasted on the poor compared to thousands of times as much elsewhere.

This may be a corrupt program, driven by the lobbying power of Yum foods. If so, it's the least harmful corrupt program going I know of.

Get a life, get some perspective, stop taking crumbs from the poor first.

I'm actually ambivalent about the program - I can see pros and cons - but the fury about helping the poor is disgusting.

Interesting you think over 50 Billion is crumbs.

As to the OP, meh.

 

[xj0hnx]

One of the Subways in Oakland has been taking foodies since at least the late 90's, and that's only one of the ones we saw while passing through back then.

 

[ShawnD1]

but nothing cheeses me more at the grocery store than me having to be frugal on what i want while obviously someone who isnt paying for their groceries doesnt give a damn and hasnt a care on their mind about it.

Don't let it get you down. Being retarded and not caring is one of the reasons some people are poor. Lots of "poor" people have stuff I don't think I can afford. My movie collection is very limited, my game collection is very limited, I buy clothes at a used clothing store, and I buy everything in bulk when possible. My stuff might suck, but it's worth it when I'm able to pay all my bills on time with no interest while one of my friends complains that her phone was cut off because she chose to buy new shoes instead of pay the phone bill. It eventually catches up with them. You see them buy lobster one week, but you don't see them the next week because they ran out of money and are back to bitching about how hungry they are.

 

[BoberFett]

Believe it or not, fast food is cheaper than real food.

I get tired of hearing this shit. Vegetables are cheap as hell. You can get a pound of carrots for a buck. People just need to admit that they are lazy and love sugary, fatty fast food. Stop making shit up.

Duck? Really? You're comparing the price of duck to a shitty taco? Do you think that's actual meat in that Taco Bell burrito?

 

[PingSpike]

lawl...

why's it gotta be KFC ?

Because they do chicken right.

I need to find some one who likes to drink and smoke a lot and gets food stamps. I could buy his food stamps at a discount and then use them to buy food, he could use the cash to buy cigs, meth, rims for his 1993 Dodge Stratus or whatever. The economy is about trading goods and services you see.

 

[theevilsharpie]

totally agree that those barely making it need to cook cheaper food. rice and beans is a great starter. but why when we breed and foster a culture of laziness and entitlement.

why prepare rice and beans when i can buy the frozen food thats both expensive and not as nutritious.

Your assumption that only the lazy and entitled would ask to use food stamps at a restaurant is overly broad. Families with incomes low enough to qualify for food stamps are in very poor financial shape, and with the large waiting lists for Section 8 housing combined with increased prices for rent, there's a reasonable chance that someone on food stamps may not have a sanitary place to cook food.

I'd support an extension of food stamps for prepared food if the food was reasonably healthy. As the article states, food stamps are a multi-billion dollar "business" and restaurants want a piece of that pie, so the USDA would have plenty of leverage to mandate a SNAP-approved menu if they so desired.

 

[ShawnD1]

I get tired of hearing this shit. Vegetables are cheap as hell. You can get a pound of carrots for a buck.

Your parents must be ashamed. Their son didn't even graduate high school :'(
I don't know if you realize this but vegetables have almost no calories. They have no nutritional value. You can eat 100lbs of carrots and still starve to death. This is why vegans always look like they're on the brink of starvation.

Duck? Really? You're comparing the price of duck to a shitty taco? Do you think that's actual meat in that Taco Bell burrito?

The USDA thinks it is.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/01/business/la-fi-taco-bell-20110201

 

[peonyu]

Because they do chicken right.

I need to find some one who likes to drink and smoke a lot and gets food stamps. I could buy his food stamps at a discount and then use them to buy food, he could use the cash to buy cigs, meth, rims for his 1993 Dodge Stratus or whatever. The economy is about trading goods and services you see.

Lol, thats been happening since the 90's. Trade a $5 bill for a $10 food stamp, I saw that alot growing up. My family was never "on" the system but some of my friends were. Im sure atleast half of people on Food stamps do the same today if not more. The welfare/food stamp system has been abused by freeloaders since it was designed, and to top off, the people I know who "traded stamps" were physically fit people. They were just lazy and found excuses to not work [and the Gov bought the excuses].

 

[ShawnD1]

Can't see this happening given the restrictions already in place on what food stamps can buy. Cant buy hot foods at a grocery store so letting this fly would be ridiculously stupid.

wtf? This policy makes no sense. At Costco, cooked chickens cost LESS than raw chickens.

 

[Craig234]

but nothing cheeses me more at the grocery store than me having to be frugal on what i want while obviously someone who isnt paying for their groceries doesnt give a damn and hasnt a care on their mind about it.

See above about the rage against the poor I mentioned.

But you clearly have a point since infinite amounts of food stamps are provided.

 

[BoberFett]

Your parents must be ashamed. Their son didn't even graduate high school :'(
I don't know if you realize this but vegetables have almost no calories. They have no nutritional value. You can eat 100lbs of carrots and still starve to death. This is why vegans always look like they're on the brink of starvation.

Oops, I just realized there was a typo in your original post. The reason it was so expensive was because you were eating dick. Try eating food instead of paying random men to let you lick on their wangs.

At any rate, have you seen the fat fucks on welfare? Those people need fewer calories.

 

[Craig234]

Lol, thats been happening since the 90's. Trade a $5 bill for a $10 food stamp, I saw that alot growing up. My family was never "on" the system but some of my friends were. Im sure atleast half of people on Food stamps do the same today if not more. The welfare/food stamp system has been abused by freeloaders since it was designed, and to top off, the people I know who "traded stamps" were physically fit people. They were just lazy and found excuses to not work [and the Gov bought the excuses].

It's a crime; you're a criminal if you buy them; perhaps we should increase the security against this, requiring photo id.

 

[umbrella39]

Who is the group lobbying for this again? Who stands to benefit?

He just hasn't gotten the memo who to be mad at yet so all he can do is kneejerk. These Big Business Fanboys need to get their stories straight before hitting the Submit Reply button.

 

[DirthNader]

Chicken breasts go on sale every other month at Publix for $1.99/lb. Stock up and freeze them. Leg quarters are always $1.99/lb or less. Pork goes on sale frequently for $1.99/lb - I just finished some tasty spare ribs that cost $8.00 for the entire rack.

Then again I know this because I'm neither a welfare queen nor a corporate whore. I'm too rich to be a Democrat, too poor to be a Republican. Just a sucker who goes to work every day and pays his bills.

 

[Paul98]

Believe it or not, fast food is cheaper than real food. I cooked a duck last week and that bastard was $14!

If you make it so food stamps won't buy Taco Bell, then food stamps shouldn't cover anything more expensive than Taco Bell. That means no more meat or cheese. I'd be fine with that too. People should learn to cook cheaper food like rice or pasta when they're poor.

Store bought is a heck of a lot cheaper than fast food when I get it. Not only that but tastes a heck of a lot better also. Only problem is when I am cooking for myself.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Your assumption that only the lazy and entitled would ask to use food stamps at a restaurant is overly broad. Families with incomes low enough to qualify for food stamps are in very poor financial shape, and with the large waiting lists for Section 8 housing combined with increased prices for rent, there's a reasonable chance that someone on food stamps may not have a sanitary place to cook food.

I'd support an extension of food stamps for prepared food if the food was reasonably healthy. As the article states, food stamps are a multi-billion dollar "business" and restaurants want a piece of that pie, so the USDA would have plenty of leverage to mandate a SNAP-approved menu if they so desired.

im sure the amount of beneficiaries with a sanitary place to prepare food outnumber those who don't. you underestimate the laziness and greed of the average american as even those with a sanitary kitchen will still be flocking to KFC subway and taco bell anyway. now, instead of them paying for it out of their own (limited) pocket, the government does and thats positive reinforcement for being L A Z Y.

if you really want to follow the letter of the law, it sounds like those kids should be taken out of that home with a health hazard in the kitchen preventing meals. but i guess its cheaper for the govt to give little johnny a 99c burrito from taco bell than have CPS come and abduct the kid.

 

[bfdd]

popeyes down from me has their ebt sign up. On Tuesdays it takes a good 30 minutes to an hour to get your order.