Food stamps for KFC and tacobell ?

[Chaosblade02]

That is bullshit, you can go to the deli and get a half pound of sliced turkey and it would run you $5, plus a loaf of bread and that is lunch for a whole week for one person. If you went to KFC it would be $5-$7 a day to eat lunch.

Fast food is only cheaper if you are dumb and lazy.

I can buy $5 worth of Hamburger meat and mix it up with some beans and some canned stuff to make a pot of chili I can eat on for a week.

Find a cut of beef on sale and buy some vegies and cut them up with the meat and make a beef stew or soup out of it, same with the chili, you can eat on that for a week, or even freeze it and eat it a month later.

Stuff like this is what people should be doing with food stamps. For someone sitting around not doing anything or being physically active, you don't need anywhere near 2000 calories a day, you could get by on 1200-1500. Someone that is really physically active would probably need 3000 calories.

 

[bfdd]

people should be given food from a dispensary and deal with food lines. An alloted amount per week, even give them food prep courses if they so choose. If you have to go beyond that, those people are unhelpable.

 

[Spikesoldier]

people should be given food from a dispensary and deal with food lines. An alloted amount per week, even give them food prep courses if they so choose. If you have to go beyond that, those people are unhelpable.

yes sir!

hay you ever hear the old saying 'give a man a fish?' you know the rest.

explains the entire issue with FOOD STAMPS in complete detail.

 

[ichy]

you underestimate the laziness and greed of the average american as even those with a sanitary kitchen will still be flocking to KFC subway and taco bell anyway. now, instead of them paying for it out of their own (limited) pocket, the government does and thats positive reinforcement for being L A Z Y.

Sadly you are correct. I used to buy into the whole Craig-style worship of victimhood, but after a decade living in Baltimore I've realized that a lot of people are just useless degenerates. At least in densely populated areas there shouldn't be anything like food stamps, give welfare recipients a ration book and let them go to a government-run soup kitchens if they're truly hungry. Put some stigma back into being on the dole, at least if you're on it long term. I have no problem with TEMPORARY assistance to those who hit hard times, but if you're on food stamps and section 8 for years then you're a parasitic piece of crap.

 

[ShawnD1]

Oops, I just realized there was a typo in your original post. The reason it was so expensive was because you were eating dick. Try eating food instead of paying random men to let you lick on their wangs.

Joke's on you. I make money when people put their penis in my mouth.

 

[PingSpike]

We should do away with food stamps and just hand out nutriloafs. That would end fraud right there, probably the obesity epidemic as well.

 

[ShawnD1]

We should do away with food stamps and just hand out nutriloafs. That would end fraud right there, probably the obesity epidemic as well.

The US prison system has about 2 million inmates. That could make a whole lot of Soylent Green... :hmm:

 

[Chaosblade02]

We should do away with food stamps and just hand out nutriloafs. That would end fraud right there, probably the obesity epidemic as well.

Great idea.

 

[nageov3t]

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Don't teach a man to fish, and you feed yourself. He's a grown man. Fishing's not that hard."

 

[PingSpike]

I wasn't serious, but if we're going to go with it we should probably grind up birth control pills and mix them in with the loafs.

 

[Spikesoldier]

We should do away with food stamps and just hand out nutriloafs. That would end fraud right there, probably the obesity epidemic as well.

+1

great idea.

see what happens when we submit ideas instead of partisan hackery?

 

[ShawnD1]

I wasn't serious, but if we're going to go with it we should probably grind up birth control pills and mix them in with the loafs.

What happens when men eat birth control pills?

I tried googling this but all I guess is discussions about a male version of the birth control pill. I want to know what happens when a man eats a female birth control pill.

 

[BoberFett]

What happens when men eat birth control pills?

I tried googling this but all I guess is discussions about a male version of the birth control pill. I want to know what happens when a man eats a female birth control pill.

You'd grow tits. That should work well for you in your line of work.

 

[drebo]

This is why EBT and food stamps should go away.

WIC is a great program, and should be expanded to replace EBT/food stamps. That ensures that people can only get what they need, can't transfer the credits, and have big restrictions on what they can buy. WIC limits it even to a specific brand of something, so that the person buying can only buy the "generic" version of something, versus the premium version.

I would be very much in favor of converting EBT/food stamps into a voucher-based program. Even more so, I'd be even more in favor of turning it in to a soup-line type service, but that's highly unlikely.

Food vouchers, rent vouchers, and that's it. There's no reason or excuse for giving cash to people on welfare.

 

[theevilsharpie]

if you really want to follow the letter of the law, it sounds like those kids should be taken out of that home with a health hazard in the kitchen preventing meals. but i guess its cheaper for the govt to give little johnny a 99c burrito from taco bell than have CPS come and abduct the kid.

When I mentioned the lack of sanitary food prep facilities, I was thinking of food stamp recipients that were homeless, living in a shelter, living in motel rooms without kitchens, living in a run-down home with broken appliances, or any other number of scenarios where cooking food isn't practical or safe.

As for taking the kids out of the home, you could spends tens (hundreds?) of billions of dollars on top of the cost of food stamps keeping detailed track of the health of 20+ million kids and raiding their house at the first sign of trouble, or you could spend no additional cash and just allow little Johnny to get a 99c burrito from Taco Bell if there's no way to get a home-cooked meal. Tough choice :hmm:

 

[Spikesoldier]

This is why EBT and food stamps should go away.

WIC is a great program, and should be expanded to replace EBT/food stamps. That ensures that people can only get what they need, can't transfer the credits, and have big restrictions on what they can buy. WIC limits it even to a specific brand of something, so that the person buying can only buy the "generic" version of something, versus the premium version.

I would be very much in favor of converting EBT/food stamps into a voucher-based program. Even more so, I'd be even more in favor of turning it in to a soup-line type service, but that's highly unlikely.

Food vouchers, rent vouchers, and that's it. There's no reason or excuse for giving cash to people on welfare.

exactly my stance.

'beggars cant be choosers!'

 

[w1_m2]

There are some people on food stamps who don't have the ability to think as you and I do. There is an imbalance in their minds. Many of these people are homeless because they choose to be. This is their way of fighting authority. I have first hand knowledge of this since I spent six months or so helping at our local homeless shelter. As hard as I tried to sway, and help, the young people to improve their lives, they resisted. They wanted the 'freedom' that being homeless offers, at least in their minds. This may be difficult to believe but it is true.

Now, speaking of the people whom I have just described, they have no pots. No stove. No microwave. No refrigerator, utensils, plates...well...you get it. If in fact our nation set up the food stamp program to help those unfortunate people who need help, don't we want them to eat? A hamburger is more healthful than a pastry. Fast food in general is more healthful than chips, ice cream, cola or candy or other items that don't need to be prepared.

Yes there is waste. Yes there are people who abuse the system. Yes there are many that do. I am not addressing whether the food stamp program has merits or not. I am saying that if a homeless person does get food stamps, s/he needs to be able to eat better than so called junk food and fast food is a step above that.

 

[nageov3t]

do homeless people qualify for food stamps? I always assumed they relied on shelters/soup kitchens.

 

[Nintendesert]

There are some people on food stamps who don't have the ability to think as you and I do. There is an imbalance in their minds. Many of these people are homeless because they choose to be. This is their way of fighting authority. I have first hand knowledge of this since I spent six months or so helping at our local homeless shelter. As hard as I tried to sway, and help, the young people to improve their lives, they resisted. They wanted the 'freedom' that being homeless offers, at least in their minds. This may be difficult to believe but it is true.

Now, speaking of the people whom I have just described, they have no pots. No stove. No microwave. No refrigerator, utensils, plates...well...you get it. If in fact our nation set up the food stamp program to help those unfortunate people who need help, don't we want them to eat? A hamburger is more healthful than a pastry. Fast food in general is more healthful than chips, ice cream, cola or candy or other items that don't need to be prepared.

Yes there is waste. Yes there are people who abuse the system. Yes there are many that do. I am not addressing whether the food stamp program has merits or not. I am saying that if a homeless person does get food stamps, s/he needs to be able to eat better than so called junk food and fast food is a step above that.

So if they choose freedom, then they can choose to be hungry too.

 

[Fern]

Joke's on you. I make money when people put their penis in my mouth.

What happens when men eat birth control pills?

I tried googling this but all I guess is discussions about a male version of the birth control pill. I want to know what happens when a man eats a female birth control pill.

You'd grow tits. That should work well for you in your line of work.

Damn, that was funny.

Fern

 

[werepossum]

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Don't teach a man to fish, and you feed yourself. He's a grown man. Fishing's not that hard."

LOL My ex father-in-law said that old saying was bullshit. If a man is hungry and his family is hungry, and there's a place to fish, then if there's anything at all to him he's already fishing. You can teach him to fish better if he's already fishing, but if he's not already fishing he's not going to bother.

Personally I think the idea of replacing food stamps with something like WIC is a great idea, but you'd have to somehow also accommodate those poor people who do not have facilities to prepare food. And I can't really get too upset over KFC or Taco Bell being purchased on food stamps anyway. There's something to be said for a child raised on food stamps occasionally getting a treat like the rest of us, if only to convey the knowledge that there is a better way to live.

 

[xj0hnx]

And I can't really get too upset over KFC or Taco Bell being purchased on food stamps anyway. There's something to be said for a child raised on food stamps occasionally getting a treat like the rest of us, if only to convey the knowledge that there is a better way to live.

I grew up eating in poor Mexican households, and believe me Taco Bell is not a treat. My friends mom will whip up some food that would make you vomit next time you ate Taco Hell, with about four dollars worth of foodies.

 

[werepossum]

I grew up eating in poor Mexican households, and believe me Taco Bell is not a treat. My friends mom will whip up some food that would make you vomit next time you ate Taco Hell, with about four dollars worth of foodies.

Presumably those familiar with actual Mexican food would find their treats at KFC or Zaxby's.

I still remember though a local kerfuffle about the school system running its free lunch program all summer, actually delivering free meals to the kids. This very obese woman was interviewed, saying "I think it's a good program, sometimes I forget to fix they lunch." If these women can't be bothered to earn a living, why would we assume that all of them can cook? (And of course the converse would be if they aren't feeding their kids now, why would we think the kids would benefit from KFC or Taco Bell?)

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

What is the total cost of this issue (the difference between allowing food stamps for fast food and restricting it to groceries)?

And how does that amount fit into the issues facing our country economically?

I look forward to your answer to see how much you are raving about nothing.

It's amazing how irrational people are about a penny wasted on the poor compared to thousands of times as much elsewhere.

This may be a corrupt program, driven by the lobbying power of Yum foods. If so, it's the least harmful corrupt program going I know of.

Get a life, get some perspective, stop taking crumbs from the poor first.

I'm actually ambivalent about the program - I can see pros and cons - but the fury about helping the poor is disgusting.

Wtf? They didn't earn the money. Therefore there are limits on it. Why is this difficult to understand? If the state is paying for a family to eat, they're going to eat cheap, healthy food from supermarkets. That's it. Restaurant food has never, ever been healthy. And food from supermarkets is FAR, FAR cheaper than food from restaurants.

And when there are billions of dollars at stake here, it becomes a major issue. This isn't a matter of pennies.

 

[Fern]

What is the total cost of this issue (the difference between allowing food stamps for fast food and restricting it to groceries)?

And how does that amount fit into the issues facing our country economically?
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Cooking is one of my hobbies. I do all the grocery shopping and cooking for my family.

There is a significant "cost" issue here. Buying your own groceries and cooking/preparing yourself is significantly less expensive that buying hot prepared food from even a fast-food chain. Even considering their 'loss-leaders' like the dollar menu you can prepare cheaper (and better) food yourself.

I see several problems with allowing food stamps to purchase restaurant prepared food. One is, to put it simply, your food stamp $'s will just not go as far. E.g., assuming your food stamps cover exactly the cost of 30 dinners, if food from a (fast food) restaurant is 1/3 more expensive then if they rely only on restaurant food they will have enough for only 20 dinners.

As more people use food stamps at restaurants, the total costs in food stamps must increase else people go without meals.

The second problem is that allowing restaurants to take food stamps encourages them to lobby for more and more food stamps per person so they can spend more (govt) money at the restaurant.

Nutritional concerns are also valid.

Fern