Footage of two black men handcuffed in Starbucks prompts police investigation

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UglyCasanova

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This will last a month or two tops. Total number of businesses in the history of the world so far that have been successful providing unlimited free shelter to homeless: 0

In winter in some locations the store will be 100% filled 10 seconds after the door opens and not one person will be a paying customer.


It’ll be hard to go back on it at this point though.

I don’t live in a big city, there isn’t much of a homeless problem here (it exists but nothing like some places I’ve been), and I don’t go to Starbucks, but I almost never encounter places that have codes on the bathrooms.
 

Jhhnn

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That's one of the reasons they installed locks on the restrooms.

The reason businesses in some locations put locks on the restrooms is so that they won't find dead junkies in the stalls or hookers using them for intimate services.
 

MrSquished

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If you are a good looking white guy such as myself, you can basically just walk in and ask to use a bathroom at an establishment and they say ok. It's cool.
 

GagHalfrunt

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It’ll be hard to go back on it at this point though.

I don’t live in a big city, there isn’t much of a homeless problem here (it exists but nothing like some places I’ve been), and I don’t go to Starbucks, but I almost never encounter places that have codes on the bathrooms.

That's the thing, Starbucks fucked up so bad on this. If they had stuck to their guns and held to the policy that bathrooms and tables are for paying customers most people find that reasonable and it all would have blown over quickly. The second United Airlines or Facebook did something stupid again Starbucks would be yesterdays news. Now the problem is 100 times worse when inevitably this policy is an epic fail and they have to rescind it. And it's going to be happen. Starbucks essentially just put a giant neon sign on every one of their locations saying "Homeless, transients, hookers and drug dealers welcome! Stay all day." and that's exactly what's going to happen. Anywhere in a major city with a homeless problem and a lot of street people Starbucks just made themselves a free no questions asked shelter. They're going to look like mondo-idiots when this goes belly-up.
 

Lanyap

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The reason businesses in some locations put locks on the restrooms is so that they won't find dead junkies in the stalls or hookers using them for intimate services.


In addition to homeless people taking baths.

Now Starbucks is clarifying its original statement after reactions by employees and customers.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbu...lcohol-drug-abuse-being-disruptive-to-others/
Or, as Starbucks Executive Chairman Howard Schultz recently told the Atlantic Council in Washington, D.C.: "We don't want to become a public bathroom."

Still, the coffee chain is going to run that risk, in light of its new policy of opening its space to all, whether paying customers or not.

"We're going to make the right decision 100 percent of the time and give people the (bathroom) key," said Schultz, discussing rules that took effect during the weekend.

A company spokesperson further clarified to CBS News on Monday: "The key piece here is that we are asking customers that when using a Starbucks space, we respectfully request they behave in a manner that maintains a warm and welcoming environment by using spaces as intended, being considerate of others, communicating with respect [and] acting responsibly."'

Separately, a Starbucks procedure manual for employees offered detailed instructions on what to do if someone is behaving in a disruptive manner. It said disruptive behaviors include smoking, drug or alcohol use, improper use of restrooms and sleeping.
 

HomerJS

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hal2kilo

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In addition to homeless people taking baths.

Now Starbucks is clarifying its original statement after reactions by employees and customers.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbu...lcohol-drug-abuse-being-disruptive-to-others/
Or, as Starbucks Executive Chairman Howard Schultz recently told the Atlantic Council in Washington, D.C.: "We don't want to become a public bathroom."

Still, the coffee chain is going to run that risk, in light of its new policy of opening its space to all, whether paying customers or not.

"We're going to make the right decision 100 percent of the time and give people the (bathroom) key," said Schultz, discussing rules that took effect during the weekend.

A company spokesperson further clarified to CBS News on Monday: "The key piece here is that we are asking customers that when using a Starbucks space, we respectfully request they behave in a manner that maintains a warm and welcoming environment by using spaces as intended, being considerate of others, communicating with respect [and] acting responsibly."'

Separately, a Starbucks procedure manual for employees offered detailed instructions on what to do if someone is behaving in a disruptive manner. It said disruptive behaviors include smoking, drug or alcohol use, improper use of restrooms and sleeping.
Why do I have the Car Wash theme song playing in my mind.
 

UNCjigga

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Dec 12, 2000
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Dammit, I hate it when those “go woke, go broke!” people are right—but this was absolutely boneheaded race-based discrimination. Starbucks corporate wanted to do something for the sake of doing something, didn’t listen to their team members, and tried to railroad a white manager because she wouldn’t go along with their chosen narrative.

I think the awarded damages here is a ludicrous number though, and I expect Starbucks to appeal. They should’ve settled. Fire the lawyers.

Edit: Reread the thread. Both sad and hilarious that the two black men at the center of this incident settled for a token sum of $1 each + $200K to a foundation, while this white regional manager (who was nowhere near the incident) got $25M. Sometimes thems just the breaks. Whatever happened to Holly Hylton though? She was labeled a racist but I remember hearing some Trumper customer calling her an SJW who was absolutely not a racist—Holly always maintained she was just following company policy.
 
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hal2kilo

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Dammit, I hate it when those “go woke, go broke!” people are right—but this was absolutely boneheaded race-based discrimination. Starbucks corporate wanted to do something for the sake of doing something, didn’t listen to their team members, and tried to railroad a white manager because she wouldn’t go along with their chosen narrative.

I think the awarded damages here is a ludicrous number though, and I expect Starbucks to appeal. They should’ve settled. Fire the lawyers.

Edit: Reread the thread. Both sad and hilarious that the two black men at the center of this incident settled for a token sum of $1 each + $200K to a foundation, while this white regional manager (who was nowhere near the incident) got $25M. Sometimes thems just the breaks. Whatever happened to Holly Hylton though? She was labeled a racist but I remember hearing some Trumper customer calling her an SJW who was absolutely not a racist—Holly always maintained she was just following company policy.
Oh so that's what the were whooping it up about when I flipped by Fox.
 
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HomerJS

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Oh so that's what the were whoopy it up about when I flipped by Fox.
Of course. They will run with their unicorn 24x7 like they did with the Bud Light stuff. I have bad new for the #bothsides people, it will take at least a 50K cases to get things close to even.
 
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