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mAdD INDIAN

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I don't understand the hate against Iranian people. I can understand hate towards Iranian (the country's not the people's) foreign policy, but not the hate towards Iranians and Persians in general.

Maybe it is different over here in Canada, but it's not a big deal. Iranians are some of the smartest I know. The majority of our Engineering Profs in our Universities are of Iranian background. They seem to be heavily into research, and I think they came to NA simply because they don't do their research in Iran due to lack of funding or whatever.
 

eits

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somehow, our legislators felt like 18 year old kids drafted by the iranian government are all rabid, twisted-minded, brainwashed, america hating jihadist...

they're drafted into service... and it's national service... not international kill missions or anything. it's like the frigging national guard and reserves.

the reason for all this hate against iran is ignorance, plain and simple.
 

Noobtastic

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: blackllotus
If Iranians hate us so much then why did thousands of them hold a candlelight vigil for 9/11 victims a week after the attacks?

Thousands, eh? What's the population of Iran again?

And perhaps you missed similar videos with "thousands" more cheering and burning American flags, in total support with the terrorists. (And not just in Iran...)

Or perhaps the fact that IRAN IS ONE THE PRIMARY FINANCIAL AND PHYSICAL (AS IN BODIES) SUPPORTERS OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

Oh yeah, did I mention they want to become a nuclear power?



Just because some people think Iranian citizens are teh devilz, that doesn't defeat the facts mentioned above. Every crazy country is going to be pounded on with hate. Most importantly, however, is that every country - regardless of status, will be hated by someone somewhere for no reason whatsoever.

Grow up.

 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: teclis1023
There has been a condemnation from moderate Muslims regarding terrorism. Unfortunately, it hasn't been loud enough.

On the contrary, the condemnation by moderate Americans of Bush's actions has similarly not been loud enough.
 

Oric

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Even if USA did not provide Chemicals Weapon to Saddam, it was in their knowledge that European Countries did. Where was the public outcry against the sell of WMD to Iraq (in 1980ies), where were the human right activists ? Why were you silent ? Where were the sanctions against Germany and France ? These two countries did produce and sell chemical weapons, did you impose trade sanctions against them ? Yet Bush administration's main excuse to invade Iraq was "They possesed and produced WMD" (which were never found) When will this hypocrisy end ?
 

StageLeft

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Too much media. I want information quickly, not something that requires 15 minutes of clicking around and watching stupid intros and video.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
With wiser foreign policy the US turned the former enemies of Germany and Japan into allies. We are now at nearly year 30 of dumber foreign policy failing to do the same with Iran. After the overthrow of the Shah who the US installed in the first place, we aided Iraq in a war against Iran and continually engage Iran with a diplomatic policy of poking them with sharp sticks and name calling. And we wonder why Iran is not friendly?

Except for Israel you would have to look under the belly of snakes to find a nation less popular in the mid-east than the USA. Certain national leaders may not oppose the US, but the men and woman on the street hate our foreign policy and for very good reasons. And the biggest drop has come in the last six years.

That fact alone puts our position in grave future peril. We have lost any semblance to the moral high ground we used to have.

as pisabird said---you are full of baloney!!
 

Lemon law

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In terms of the current occupation of Iraq which has turned into a totally bungled quagmire,
GWB&co. was able to rush in where angels fear to thread because no entity of an consequence gave GWB&co. a firm no. Thankfully, at least Russia is no giving a firm no to any preemptive Iranian bombing. And if the USA consults the UN, its going to get a similar firm no. After all, there is a price to pay for being the little boy who cried wolf and that price is compounded when there is no clear evidence GWB&co diplomacy has learned anything in the process.

Having said that, our Naval assets are already in place and under a doctrine of might makes right, GWB&co. are idiotic enough to actually attempt the experiment. But hopefully GWB&co. are mindful of the numerous red lights and entities of consequence that will react very negatively to such a sneak attack even more dastardly than the Pearl Harbor attack.

And if nothing else, any preemptive Iranian attack will very likely result in the total blockading of the Persian gulf which will trigger a world wide economic depression.

As Skoob says----If you support war with Iran, you are an imbecile.


 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: blackllotus
If Iranians hate us so much then why did thousands of them hold a candlelight vigil for 9/11 victims a week after the attacks?

Thousands, eh? What's the population of Iran again?

And perhaps you missed similar videos with "thousands" more cheering and burning American flags, in total support with the terrorists. (And not just in Iran...)

Or perhaps the fact that IRAN IS ONE THE PRIMARY FINANCIAL AND PHYSICAL (AS IN BODIES) SUPPORTERS OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM.


Yep; spreading their ideals by the sword; religion of peace my ass.
 

Aimster

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U.S gave chemical weapons to a terrorist state to use on children defending their country from extermination.

Iran has done?
 

teclis1023

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: teclis1023
There has been a condemnation from moderate Muslims regarding terrorism. Unfortunately, it hasn't been loud enough.

On the contrary, the condemnation by moderate Americans of Bush's actions has similarly not been loud enough.

I could have sworn this thread was about Iran.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: teclis1023
There has been a condemnation from moderate Muslims regarding terrorism. Unfortunately, it hasn't been loud enough.

On the contrary, the condemnation by moderate Americans of Bush's actions has similarly not been loud enough.

the condemnation by the general public in iran has been pretty vocal. thousands protest in the streets of tehran daily.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: blackllotus
If Iranians hate us so much then why did thousands of them hold a candlelight vigil for 9/11 victims a week after the attacks?

Thousands, eh? What's the population of Iran again?

And perhaps you missed similar videos with "thousands" more cheering and burning American flags, in total support with the terrorists. (And not just in Iran...)

Or perhaps the fact that IRAN IS ONE THE PRIMARY FINANCIAL AND PHYSICAL (AS IN BODIES) SUPPORTERS OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM.


Yep; spreading their ideals by the sword; religion of peace my ass.

as if you know anything.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Aimster
U.S gave chemical weapons to a terrorist state to use on children defending their country from extermination.

Iran has done?

We gave the Iranians weapons to fight back. They were offered chemical weapons just like Iraq was, they just refused to accept them because they didn't want to use them in the war. As a result, they got roflpwned. We wanted both sides to lose, instead, the Iranians took the moral high ground and lost a million citizens. They've since realized the error of their ways, and are seeking nuclear weapons to take their revenge on the world.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Noobtastic

as if you know anything.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Enjoy.


:laugh:

As if he really knows what I know or not.

if i knew what you knew, i wouldn't know very much of anything, would i? the difference between me and people like you is that when i don't know enough about something, i tend to keep my mouth shut.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Noobtastic

as if you know anything.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Enjoy.

wow, what a really unbiased and totally valid website. thanks for sending me to a website where i can learn lots of factual and reliable things without any spin or bias whatsoever.

stupid fuck.

Looks like news stories taken right from Reuters and the AP to me.... They just collect them all on the front page for you. If you look in the opinion sections, expect to find just that, opinion. But the news is news, whether you like it or not.
 

Noobtastic

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Looks like news stories taken right from Reuters and the AP to me.... They just collect them all on the front page for you. If you look in the opinion sections, expect to find just that, opinion. But the news is news, whether you like it or not.

bingo - sources provided.

7 Christian Fundamentalist abortion bombing deaths in the past twenty years > 20,000 deaths/hundred thousands wounded this year as a direct result of Islamic terrorism?

Apparently that's the general opinion in most of the Western world. The fact is, rarely do islamic bombings get published in international news unless it someway affects a Western country.

Hell, yesterday an entire family was shot up by Jihad death squads roaming the streets in Jakarta. These people don't just kill, they run the state.




 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: Noobtastic

as if you know anything.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Enjoy.


:laugh:

As if he really knows what I know or not.

if i knew what you knew, i wouldn't know very much of anything, would i? the difference between me and people like you is that when i don't know enough about something, i tend to keep my mouth shut.

The difference between me and the people like you is that you would rather turn a blind eye to radical Islam, whose followers are trying to spread their religion and Sharia law by the sword (suicide bomb, suicide airplane, etc.), whereas I would rather stand up and fight them now, rather than have to convert to their primitive & oppressive type of life later.
 
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