And that's what I meant about shit messaging and communication strategy if you believe they are mostly right on technical policy arguments & objectives (like providing a social safety net, refrormed/nationalized HC and need for greater income equality, decriminalization of drug use.)
You're perfectly showing exactly that Republican/conservative propaganda works. You know where I get my messaging from? What they actually fucking work on when in political office. What politicians say isn't fit to wipe my ass with (although it actually has become meaningful, mostly because Republicans keep dropping the pretense that they give a shit about anything but being hateful and corrupt disgusting pieces of shit; and Democrats actually work on the shit they talk about - and often do it quite successfully, which is not to say its without problems but any fucking adult realizes that's going to be inherent in trying to set policy and laws for a diverse country of 350+ million people). Yet people keep spouting "both sides" and say how politicians just offer empty words and branding. Then you're mad because you can't be bothered to care about what they actually fucking do. And then you fucking blame the Democrats for their poor messaging. Yet you'll also go around bitching when they do talk up the stuff they've done (happens all the time, I heard no end of people bitching about the Dems "lying about Obamacare" and all sorts of other shit, and when pressed on it reveal they don't know jack shit about fucking anything they're spouting off about). Its absurd and because of the constant propaganda you keep running in idiotic circles.
Dems do need to drop the gun control thing, especially now that we have a serious threat of fascism emerging in the country.
The Dems and Republicans used to actually be pretty comparable on that issue. And the Democrats did little to address it (Obama really had no interest in approaching it, but was forced to because we kept having situations where someone would go and fucking murder dozens of others, and America was sick of it).
Again, you show exactly that Republican/conservative propaganda works. The Democrats take up that cause because of the outpouring of people begging them to stop all the killing.
Yet here you people bleat on about how they need to listen to the people. They do and then you assholes condemn them constantly.
I get what your point is, that it would appease the fucking idiots who are single-issue gun rights above all voters, plenty of whom are sick of the Republicans but keep voting for them because of their twisted ass interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. But I hope you realize that also will set a really goddamn bad precedent, and signal that the Democrats are very willing to compromise their rationality for the sake of votes. And then you'll see them backslide to the willful ignorance that Republicans are so keen on.
I just think you're wrong that Democrats tout that as heavily as you act like they do. Or that you think them cowtowing to the NRA would be a good thing to do, even if it meant potential short term benefits of stopping the insanity that the GOP has become.
It would shatter what the Democrats have shown. That, yes, they did used to be ignorant much like the Republicans, but that given time and information, they can see the error of their ways and eschew them for rational, logical, coherent, ideas that are supported by actual data. Compromise that, and you compromise everything.
And yes, I get that things are so fucked that Republicans want gun control, but just for those non-white people they're so goddamned terrified of. And just their insanity with regards to gun control in general. I just disagree, and they absolutely should fully come out against he NRA. What they need to do is show how the NRA is the one politicizing the gun issue, and show their ties to Russia and the GOP's corruption. But its like you guys can't make up your mind. Should they grow a fucking backbone of become chickenshits and bow to the NRA?