For the Racing Fans

jaedaliu

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Fans of real racing, I mean: F1, GP, Le Mans. Not you redneck NASCAR freaks.

I just want to say that I always assumed NASCAR was stupid easy. But after watching the Top Gear UK episode where Richard Hammond goes to a NASCAR track and seeing how ungrounded the vehicles are, I have a new found appreciation.

That, and when Juan Pablo M0ntoya didn't dominate the instant he started, told me that there's something difficult about NASCAR that was beyond me.
 

Phanuel

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Fans of real racing, I mean: F1, GP, Le Mans. Not you redneck NASCAR freaks. The following documentary is highly recommended:

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Truth_in_24_II_Every_Second_Counts/70260541

The film follows Audi's 2011 Le Mans campaign, and the rivalry with Peugeot. Excellent stuff. I will even say that Jason Statham does a good job of narration.

For those of us without active Netflix accounts -

First one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFwoxM1MiBw

Second one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27F26UA1i6M
 

AstroManLuca

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F1 is equally as boring as NASCAR. With both I can recognize and respect the amount of skill and strategy required by the drivers and the teams, but it's just dreadfully boring. Best aspect of NASCAR is when they do road courses. F1 is too polished and perfect. And I'm not even one of those people who only cares about the crashes.

GT cars and especially rally I find to be much more entertaining.
 

xBiffx

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LOL at trying to make F1>NASCAR. F1, 99% of the time, is over after the very first turn.

Pretty fucking boring.
 

Markbnj

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I just want to say that I always assumed NASCAR was stupid easy. But after watching the Top Gear UK episode where Richard Hammond goes to a NASCAR track and seeing how ungrounded the vehicles are, I have a new found appreciation.

No, it's not at all easy. I also like it . Was just joshing around. I do much prefer road circuits to huge ovals where everyone firewalls and drafts for two hours, though.
 
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LOL at trying to make F1>NASCAR. F1, 99% of the time, is over after the very first turn.

Pretty fucking boring.

and nascar creates competition and/or drama artificially. a driver can dominate a race, just to have a dozen full course yellows and competition cautions keep everyone else in the game. never mind not being able to end the race without the mandatory spectacle, even after several attempts.
 

Markbnj

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This was excellent. Thanks for the recommendation. I knew that Tajima broke 10 minutes in 2011, so there was no love coming for the Millens at the end of the film (well, except for Rod taking the 2wd record), but it was great to watch the process. I wasn't aware Colorado had been forced to pave the whole road by a lawsuit. Guess some asshat drive off the road.
 

cheezmunky

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This was excellent. Thanks for the recommendation. I knew that Tajima broke 10 minutes in 2011, so there was no love coming for the Millens at the end of the film (well, except for Rod taking the 2wd record), but it was great to watch the process. I wasn't aware Colorado had been forced to pave the whole road by a lawsuit. Guess some asshat drive off the road.

Glad you liked it. I didn't know a lawsuit forced them to pave the road either. I'm happy that I can say I made it to the top when it was at least partially unpaved. I thought the dirt added a lot to the drive.

It's great that Tajima broke the 10 min mark, but I found it even more amazing that Rod Millen's record was only 4 seconds off that mark and he set it when the road was completely dirt. He held that record for 13 years and only after the road was partially paved was it beat.
 

Spydermag68

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The problem with the Pikes Peak hill climb is that over the last 10 years they have been paving over the off-road section with asphalt so tourist can get to the top easier. The race is not like it was when it started.

From Netflix:
Red Bull Return to Millen Mountain

Behind the wheel of his Red Bull-sponsored Hyundai Genesis, professional driver Rhys Millen returns to Pikes Peak with the goal of setting the record up the 12.4-mile course and breaking the elusive 10-minute time barrier.
 

Markbnj

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The problem with the Pikes Peak hill climb is that over the last 10 years they have been paving over the off-road section with asphalt so tourist can get to the top easier. The race is not like it was when it started.

Yeah, and like cheezmunky noted, the really amazing thing is that Millen Sr.'s record stood for 13 years, and he ran the whole thing on dirt.
 
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rush is going to be awesome. senna was really good, but it was crafted to show the hero people want to remember. le mans was great, grand prix was just ok. for a very gritty look at f1, check out champions forever: the formula one drivers (formerly known as the quick and the dead and one by one).
 

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