Force Fields

[dnoyeb]

Force field is an oxymoron.

 

[drag]

I think I am a oxymoron...

I remember working at a movie theator, we would have the polyester film (there are different types of film used, polyester was the one most prone to static electricty).. That bastard when we'd be wrapping it up it would be normal to have static shocks that were inches long... Now if you held you hand over it you could feel the electrical force building up in the film... you know like when you hold your hand over a monitor screen you can feel the feild of electric grabbing at you, sometimes, then you touch it and it'll go away. Or those everpriced lightning balls, you can feel the feild that builds up on the surface of the glass.


I suppose since you can feel it at such small amperage (ultra high voltage though), what would a gigantic electric feild of static electricty feel like? Some thing that made you feel like a human dust mote being attracted/repeled from a device... defenatly would want to make me wet my pants the first tim entcountering it.

and hell maybe that guy could turn away because he was wearing a big metal belt buckle or somthing like that!

As far as starships using a static electricty feild for a force feild... If you could have engines that took you anywher the speed of light, you could probably zap entire planets with a static electricty generator! IE a thosand mile long gigantic ball of polyester tape being wrapped at the speed of light!

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Shalmanese
As always, 3M come up with a soultion that is way too technologically advanced for what it does. We've been able to create force fields for over 6000 years. There called "walls". If you want a transperant force-field, its called a "window".

Or other things called "magnets." They produce a field that exerts a force - which sounds like a "force field" too. :Q

 

[DannyBoy]

"Force feilds" have always been considered to be something in movies, wouldnt you agree?

I mean after all there are plenty of force feilds on earth, take for instance as you said magnetism. The entire globe is in a force feild.

But no-one mentions the force feild we live in, they recognise a force feild holding back captain kirk on the Enterprise though dont they

Dan

p.s. I am NOT a trekkie Its just an example

 

[Hazer]

Search the net for Plasma Research.

There are real forcefileds being used. Its works on magnetism. They have plasma generators the size of a room that create plasma energy 1000 times hotter than the sun, and its all bounded by very very large magnets.

The thing with M3 sounds like ESM energy. Things moving at extreme rates create different electrical potentials that create magnetic elecrostatic fields that can either attract or repel.

Now if your trying to say that what happened at M3 was a fine wall of force, thats wrong. They didnt measure or try to do anything in which they could conclude a smoot wall. They just said that when they approached a certain area, they were held back.

 

[drag]

As far as science fictions and technology goes, its very funny, but truth is stranger then fiction..

Remember in the original Star Treck? There ships were powered by anti-mater reaction.. and the one episiode were they had meat two explorers they thought were the same person? the evil guy that had a gotee and the good guy that didn't (although the starship crew didn't seem to notice). look at the weirdness that the theoretical science community is thinking about: actual sort of parrallel universe/dimensions that they could pull anti-matter from as a source of an incredible power, that's one of the reasons I beleive ... and they think they've created a small amount of anti-matter in labratory settings..

Remember phasers? The US government has made those years ago.. And they have chemical-powered lasers that they can fit in 747's they plane on using to shoot down land-to-air missles? Energy-weopons... stun guns, emp pulse generators, using massive electronic feilds to distrupt mobs. Sound weapons...

hell TVs, radios, submarians, space flight, electronic computers, flight, nuclear power, etc etc were all have there origins in popular fiction Hell the term "robot" as a autonomous automation device that can imitate human movements was first made a popular term 1921.

the human mind is freaking weird, we think in terms of what know about the universe so when we our imagination we create, we create new possibilities for us. All that remains is the details on how to create it, I think that subconsious will even create clues on how to design something....

What happens in the original star treck or most other science fiction movies when a actor trys to touch or force there way thru force feilds. They get a huge electric shock! Who else thinks that it would be possible to create a focused static electronic feild in thin air once we figure out on how to make focused magnetic fields? They can use magnetics to contain and control very small nuclear reactions, force materials together, create efficent and small colliders.. etc etc...

so why not static electric force feilds?

 

[silent tone]

Did anybody read the article about using sound waves as force fields? IIRC the experiment resulted in a bit of plastic being suspended or moved around in 3 dimensions by an array of 'speakers'. I don't recall what the frequency was or the field the research was for. They claimed it could be converted to use EM waves and used in the vacuum of space. One purpose was to arrange millions of chunks of material and hold them in a configuration while an adhesive cured and created a structure. The article was in MIT tech review or Sci. Am. or something, but I couldn't find it.

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: istallion
Did anybody read the article about using sound waves as force fields? IIRC the experiment resulted in a bit of plastic being suspended or moved around in 3 dimensions by an array of 'speakers'. I don't recall what the frequency was or the field the research was for. They claimed it could be converted to use EM waves and used in the vacuum of space. One purpose was to arrange millions of chunks of material and hold them in a configuration while an adhesive cured and created a structure. The article was in MIT tech review or Sci. Am. or something, but I couldn't find it.

Yes I did, they were also explaining about how it could be possible to break up asteroids with sound waves and then use more precise waves to mould a structure out of the asteroid.

Oh btw "Hazer" it is not "M3" it is "3M"

3M = Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing, hance the 3 m's.

Dan

 

[Vash341]

is it posible that they just ran into a really clear sheet of Polypropelene film (assuming it is clear). i mean with so many being respooled mabe some guy just walked into a sheet of it and got scared.