Forget GeForce4, Eclipse is coming

Acanthus

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Exerpt from an article

When 3dfx announced that it was selling itself off to cover all of its debts and essentially going out of business, they had already received working Rampage silicon from the Fab. The very day they announced that they would be divesting itself of all interests, the first Sage (programmable T&L unit) was delivered. The single Rampage/Sage combination looked to have competed very well with the GeForce 3, but the cost of each card would have been significantly smaller than the GeForce 3. Much of these savings came from the actual chip costs. The Rampage rendering core was about 26 million transistors, while the Sage core was around 18 million. Producing each chip separately is much easier than producing a single 57 million transistor GeForce 3. The dual Rampage, single Sage board would have significantly outperformed the GeForce 3, and would have cost only slightly more to produce. 3dfx was in a very good position technologically, but financially the company could no longer exist and go on with its plans.

Nine months before this tragic event, 3dfx bought Gigapixel and its technology. 3dfx instantly integrated the engineering teams and the technology of the two. Things were going very, very well in terms of engineering development, and an exciting new chip was being designed. Fear was the codename, and it was going to be something special. Basically a Rampage rendering core redefined by Gigapixel technology, it would be around 58 million transistors and produce some of the most amazing graphics ever seen. That was the original plan, and tapeout was scheduled for March of 2001. The company didn?t make it that far. NVIDIA instead got the technology and all design work done to date. NVIDIA engineers were very excited to be able to see what 3dfx was working on, because it was in many ways superior to what NVIDIA had. Now, nearly 2 years after NVIDIA acquired 3dfx, we are about to see a totally new architecture that is a fusion of the 3dfx and NVIDIA technology.

The idea of a texturing computer is that texturing resources can be dynamically allocated to the pixel pipelines that most need them at that particular time. This helps the overall performance of the core by making it more flexible to the needs of the rendered scene. Add in more advanced texturing techniques, more texture passes per clock, more internal bandwidth, and you can get the basic idea what is in store. This will be NVIDIA?s first product that will feature greater than 32 bit color accuracy. Rampage had 52 bit color (13 bit RGBA vs 8 bit), and Fear was to have 64 bit color. Internal bandwidth was improved by using the Gigapixel technology, so the performance hit of higher color accuracy was not as significant as it would initially seem. Anti-aliasing would also be improved yet again in terms of quality and performance.

NVIDIA is staying with a single core design, so all functions will reside on one chip. Sage II was to be integrated with Fear, but NVIDIA will probably go with a beefed up, Dual Vertex Shader on this chip. The idea of 3dfx, Gigapixel, and NVIDIA technology wrapped in one core should give the competition night sweats. This combination will also receive a new name, as NVIDIA wants to differentiate it from the GeForce brand.

The Codename of the up and coming card is the NVIDIA Eclipse.

I WILL HAVE ONE

 

jiffylube1024

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I doubt this will come anytime soon. 3dfx was notorious for claiming their technologies were 'ready for primetime' or whatever you call it, and then delaying them for months/years. The Voodoo 4/5 were supposed to come out in September (1999 I believe but it could have been another year) but didnt actually come out until the following April, right when the Geforce 2 was first released. This was definately going to happen with Rampage and their following technologies; 3dfx and STB were not very good at hitting release dates, or backing up their wild claims. That said I don't think that Rampage and Sage were as far along in development as they claimed they were (or at least weren't close to mass production).

For Nvidia, releasing a new chip using two different companies' combined technologies, while integrating their own and introducing new features such as 64-bit color precision at the same time; this sounds like it would take YEARS.

Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't think the GF4 is going to be obsolete too soon.
 

Acanthus

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1. We are dealing with NVIDIA now, who doesnt mess around with release dates.
2. Ive seen 3 cards on ebay of WORKING quad chip rage cards with an alpha driver (this what when 3dfx went under, i think you can find pics if you look hard enough) which means working rage chips do exsist. Each card went for more than $4000
 

spanky

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mentioning 3dfx brings a tear to my eye. my voodoo3 & voodoo5 are incredible cards
 

gsaldivar

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I highly doubt that NVidia will torpedo their GeForce4 sales with this technology. Don't hold your breath on this one.
 

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<< I highly doubt that NVidia will torpedo their GeForce4 sales with this technology. Don't hold your breath on this one. >>



Er, HELLO? Earth to gsaldivar ??


The Geforce 4, torpedo'd Geforce 3.
Geforce 3, torpedo'd Geforce 2.
etc

Nvidia have said that the next card, will not be called Geforce.

The next card will be released when MS releases DX 9 which is rumoured to be this fall.

ATi will release R300 at this time..

Matrox is rumored to release a series of cards for all markets soon.

What do you think Nvidia will do? Sit on their hands?

Yeah thats right, of course they will.. Whilst all the other competitors are torpedo-ing Nvidia's Geforce 4 line-up.

Finally, I won't be surprised if anyone like this does come out. Nvidia really do need an injection of specs in their system, for me a Geforce 4 is really a Geforce 2 but quicker!!
 
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