Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Pugnate
Originally posted by: Matt2
In 18 months the PS3 will still be able to play PS3 games as the developer intended.
IN 18 months every PC in the world will be obsolete.
What nonsense.
On top of looking better, I'll still be able to play my Xbox360 games at 1080P.
Originally posted by: Nightmare225
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Pugnate
Originally posted by: Matt2
In 18 months the PS3 will still be able to play PS3 games as the developer intended.
IN 18 months every PC in the world will be obsolete.
What nonsense.
On top of looking better, I'll still be able to play my Xbox360 games at 1080P.
How many games on the 360, or for that matter, PS3, are able to play games at a native 1080p? Not much, and those which can are rather light on other graphical features. Most demanding games are rendered at 720p.
Try running your games at 720p on your X1900XTX, you'll see its not as obsolete when compared to the consoles as you think.
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Nightmare225
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Pugnate
Originally posted by: Matt2
In 18 months the PS3 will still be able to play PS3 games as the developer intended.
IN 18 months every PC in the world will be obsolete.
What nonsense.
On top of looking better, I'll still be able to play my Xbox360 games at 1080P.
How many games on the 360, or for that matter, PS3, are able to play games at a native 1080p? Not much, and those which can are rather light on other graphical features. Most demanding games are rendered at 720p.
Try running your games at 720p on your X1900XTX, you'll see its not as obsolete when compared to the consoles as you think.
GRAW2 and MLB2k7 are 1080p and those are 2 of the best looking games the 360 has. Besides, even at 1080i, it's the same as 1080p cause your 1080p TV will de-interlace the image for you.
Knocking the res down to 720p is not an option with the PC. Who wants to do that?
Better yet, who would do that? When the time comes you have to start playing below the native resolution of your LCD, then your PC is obsolete.
Originally posted by: 40sTheme
It's a different situation with PCs these days. High-end things will become cheaper as process scaling decreases and more efficient architectures are created, as well as more efficient development platforms are created (a la DX10). Hardware scalability is expected to have a much broader range, and the low-end buyers will still be able to have a mostly enjoyable experience, while the high-end will enjoy added bonuses such as ultra high resolutions and X-amountxAA, etc. DX10/whenever the new OpenGL comes around (which I'm assuming it will) will create tons of open doors for software development and hardware development (in terms of price and features), and constantly decreasing process scales will drive down not only price, but size and the need for ultra huge, expensive cooling.
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Pugnate
Originally posted by: Matt2
In 18 months the PS3 will still be able to play PS3 games as the developer intended.
IN 18 months every PC in the world will be obsolete.
What nonsense.
What the hell? Nonsense? You saying that my comment is nonsense is complete and utter nonsense.
In 18 months Xbox360 and PS3 games will look better than they do today. If you think otherwise, I advise you to check out year 1 releases for Xbox and PS2 and then play a recent Xbox or PS2 game. On top of looking better, I'll still be able to play my Xbox360 games at 1080P. No reducing texture quality, no sacrificing dynamic lighting, no overclocking my Xbox to death just to get playable framerates.
On the other hand, in 18 months, a top of the line computer will be a steaming pile of poo. My Opteron 170 @ 2.8GHZ, X1900XTX and 2GB RAM rig is less than twelve months old and it's already obsolete as far as I'm concerned. I already have problems playing games at native resolution with decent quality settings, let alone the max quality settings with AA and AF that I was so used to when my PC was top of the line. In another six months, I wont even bother firing up a PC game because I like my games to run faster than 5 fps.
If you think I'm making this up, I urge you to not upgrade your PC for 18 months and see how happy you are with your gaming experience.
That is all.
incase you missed itPC Games, Once Down, Show Signs of Rebound
Like other gamers drawn to the PC, however, he said the attraction went beyond convenience and cost. He said computer games seem more sophisticated than console games and offer a greater sense of accomplishment. ?It?s not just killing unlimited enemies on a screen,? he said.
Not so long ago, PC titles were the mainstay of video gaming, but they have slumped in recent years, overshadowed by a new generation of game consoles. Now they are showing signs of a comeback.
Most prominent has been the strength of one of the most popular video games ever for PCs, World of Warcraft, a role-playing online adventure game that now has more than eight million subscribers.
But retail sales of other titles are on the rebound as well. PC manufacturers and chipmakers are promoting the game-playing prowess of ever more powerful computers. And Microsoft has inaugurated a program aimed at making PC gaming more attractive, incorporating console-like features and easier online play.
There is also considerable buzz about Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, a long-awaited game due in June from id Software, the creator of the blockbuster hits Doom and Quake in the 1990s.
Anita Frazier, an industry analyst for the NPD Group, a market research firm, noted that in the first two months of 2007, domestic retail sales of PC games reached $203 million, a 48 percent increase over the $136.8 million in the period a year earlier. She noted that these figures do not include revenue generated by PC game sales online, or online subscriptions to play PC games.
?Yes, it does look like a fluke, doesn?t it?? Ms. Frazier said. ?Rest assured it?s not.?
She said the bulk of this surge in sales is rooted in the role-playing video game genre that, itself, grew 43 percent over the same period last year. ?The robust performance we?re seeing in PC game sales can be tied to several key titles across several genres,? she said, ?but we?d be remiss not to address the continued success of World of Warcraft.?
The upsurge comes after some recent reversals. Over all, retail sales of PC-based games in the United States exceeded $970 million in 2006, an increase of about 1 percent of sales the previous year of $953 million, which represented about a 14 percent drop from $1.1 billion in 2004.
By contrast, according to the NPD Group, retail sales for console games in 2006 were $4.8 billion; another $1.7 billion was spent on games for hand-held devices like Sony?s PlayStation Portable.
?I think with three consoles out in the last couple of years, it?s natural to focus on consoles,? said Todd Hollenshead, chief executive of id Software, which was a pioneer in first-person-shooter games for the PC but today makes games for PCs and consoles. ?There?s a lot of excitement, a lot of marketing dollars and a lot of hype for consoles.?
In an arena where the console makers market their wares heavily, he said, ?we don?t have any champion of the PC game business to step in and leverage those sorts of marketing dollars.?
But that may change with new initiatives by several companies to use PC gaming as a showcase for their technologies and services.
Under the rubric Games for Windows, Microsoft is instituting a number of measures to raise the profile of PC games in retail stores while lowering barriers that have made buying and playing games on computers less attractive.
Last month, it announced that it would soon extend its Xbox Live online gaming and entertainment network to include games played on PCs, a program it is calling Games for Windows ? Live.
...
Another move, he said, is to permit gamers who are more comfortable playing games with Xbox controllers than with keyboards and mice to use their Xbox controllers, wired and wireless (by way of a special $20 U.S.B. wireless adapter) with their PCs.
?One of the greatest barriers to PC gaming is user interface, controllers,? he said.
In the meantime, as the latest generation of consoles are among the most powerful ever made, PCs, including notebook computers, can continually outstrip consoles in sheer power and speed. Computer development cycles, the rates of adopting faster and more powerful technologies, are always much faster than those of consoles, whose core components cannot be upgraded like PCs?, said Abizar Vahkaria, the worldwide head of gaming at Dell.
?Gaming actually started on computers and has been evolving on the PC for a very long time,? he said, noting that Dell is deeply committed to designing and building computers that cater to gamers? needs and desires. ?What we do at Dell is work with all of the game developers and publishers and do all we can to deliver a world-class experience with gaming.?
An example is Dell?s XPS 710 H2C, a hulking desktop tower that looks as if it could have been snatched from the machined clutches of ?The Matrix.? Under its black shell, gamers can order, for instance, super-powerful hardware like an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Quad-Core processor and Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX graphics cards with SLi dual graphics technology.
....
This month, Hewlett-Packard executives unveiled an ambitious set of development initiatives to improve the video-game experience ? from the networks they are played over to the computers developers use to create games and the PCs players use to enjoy them.
For now, what the company has to show are prototypes, like wrap-around display screens for gaming that resemble giant visors. But Rahul Sood, chief technology officer for Hewlett-Packard?s global gaming business unit, said new products would be ready later this year.
For computer makers, catering to gamers is more than a niche pursuit. Worldwide, where video games amount to a $36 billion industry, ?the PC is, no doubt, the gaming platform of choice,? said Michael Arzt, senior vice president and general manager of the American office of International Cyber Marketing, the organizer of the World Cyber Games, a major video game festival.
And that market extends from professional gamers at high-end computers to those at more humble PCs.
?Not everyone wants to lay down the money for a console and a big-screen television to make it work,? Mr. Arzt said. ?The thing about the economics of the PC,? he added, is that ?everybody needs a computer.?
Microsoft is instituting a number of measures to raise the profile of PC games in retail stores while lowering barriers that have made buying and playing games on computers less attractive.
Last month, it announced that it would soon extend its Xbox Live online gaming and entertainment network to include games played on PCs, a program it is calling Games for Windows ? Live.
...
Another move, he said, is to permit gamers who are more comfortable playing games with Xbox controllers than with keyboards and mice to use their Xbox controllers, wired and wireless (by way of a special $20 U.S.B. wireless adapter) with their PCs.
Originally posted by: apoppin
April 24, 2007
U.S. PC Game Sales Up 48% So Far In 2007
U.S. PC Game Sales Up 48% So Far In 2007 According to data from research firm NPD Group, sales of PC games have risen by 48 percent on the previous year, during the first two months of 2007, with sales lead by the success of Blizzard?s World of WarCraft and its expansion The Burning Crusade.
Speaking in a feature by The New York Times, NPD?s Anita Frazier indicated that U.S. retails sales of PC games have risen to $203 million, from $136.8 million a year earlier. These figures do not include online sales or online subscriptions to massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as World of WarCraft.
...
-----Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
WoW has been *out* for QUITE awhile and we are talking about an increase *this year* in PC gaming ... and they do NOT count WoW or any MMORPG monthly feesPC gaming doing a record in sales? Yeah, because World of Warcraft has 7 million subscribers. There's no indication that other than the MMORPG craze spearheaded by WoW, the PC industry is growing that much, and it's certainly not diversifying.
Yes Apoppin it does count WoW sales THIS year as that is when it's expansion was sold. It just doesn't include the monthly subscription fees. So Jiffylube1024's comment stands. If you have numbers that support new customers in the PC gaming market that is one thing but these numbers are artificially inflated by the sell of WoW's expansion. Those buyers were not NEW customers. To support a rise in PC gaming popularity you need to show that people are switching to PC, not that the same 7 million dorks bought the expansion to their favorite game.
Originally posted by: apoppin
the *latest* from the NY Times
--in part
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/23/techn...1178164800&en=5f1d4ecb15d930de&ei=5070
incase you missed itPC Games, Once Down, Show Signs of Rebound
Like other gamers drawn to the PC, however, he said the attraction went beyond convenience and cost. He said computer games seem more sophisticated than console games and offer a greater sense of accomplishment. ?It?s not just killing unlimited enemies on a screen,? he said.
Not so long ago, PC titles were the mainstay of video gaming, but they have slumped in recent years, overshadowed by a new generation of game consoles. Now they are showing signs of a comeback.
Most prominent has been the strength of one of the most popular video games ever for PCs, World of Warcraft, a role-playing online adventure game that now has more than eight million subscribers.
But retail sales of other titles are on the rebound as well. PC manufacturers and chipmakers are promoting the game-playing prowess of ever more powerful computers. And Microsoft has inaugurated a program aimed at making PC gaming more attractive, incorporating console-like features and easier online play.
There is also considerable buzz about Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, a long-awaited game due in June from id Software, the creator of the blockbuster hits Doom and Quake in the 1990s.
Anita Frazier, an industry analyst for the NPD Group, a market research firm, noted that in the first two months of 2007, domestic retail sales of PC games reached $203 million, a 48 percent increase over the $136.8 million in the period a year earlier. She noted that these figures do not include revenue generated by PC game sales online, or online subscriptions to play PC games.
?Yes, it does look like a fluke, doesn?t it?? Ms. Frazier said. ?Rest assured it?s not.?
She said the bulk of this surge in sales is rooted in the role-playing video game genre that, itself, grew 43 percent over the same period last year. ?The robust performance we?re seeing in PC game sales can be tied to several key titles across several genres,? she said, ?but we?d be remiss not to address the continued success of World of Warcraft.?
The upsurge comes after some recent reversals. Over all, retail sales of PC-based games in the United States exceeded $970 million in 2006, an increase of about 1 percent of sales the previous year of $953 million, which represented about a 14 percent drop from $1.1 billion in 2004.
By contrast, according to the NPD Group, retail sales for console games in 2006 were $4.8 billion; another $1.7 billion was spent on games for hand-held devices like Sony?s PlayStation Portable.
?I think with three consoles out in the last couple of years, it?s natural to focus on consoles,? said Todd Hollenshead, chief executive of id Software, which was a pioneer in first-person-shooter games for the PC but today makes games for PCs and consoles. ?There?s a lot of excitement, a lot of marketing dollars and a lot of hype for consoles.?
In an arena where the console makers market their wares heavily, he said, ?we don?t have any champion of the PC game business to step in and leverage those sorts of marketing dollars.?
But that may change with new initiatives by several companies to use PC gaming as a showcase for their technologies and services.
Under the rubric Games for Windows, Microsoft is instituting a number of measures to raise the profile of PC games in retail stores while lowering barriers that have made buying and playing games on computers less attractive.
Last month, it announced that it would soon extend its Xbox Live online gaming and entertainment network to include games played on PCs, a program it is calling Games for Windows ? Live.
...
Another move, he said, is to permit gamers who are more comfortable playing games with Xbox controllers than with keyboards and mice to use their Xbox controllers, wired and wireless (by way of a special $20 U.S.B. wireless adapter) with their PCs.
?One of the greatest barriers to PC gaming is user interface, controllers,? he said.
In the meantime, as the latest generation of consoles are among the most powerful ever made, PCs, including notebook computers, can continually outstrip consoles in sheer power and speed. Computer development cycles, the rates of adopting faster and more powerful technologies, are always much faster than those of consoles, whose core components cannot be upgraded like PCs?, said Abizar Vahkaria, the worldwide head of gaming at Dell.
?Gaming actually started on computers and has been evolving on the PC for a very long time,? he said, noting that Dell is deeply committed to designing and building computers that cater to gamers? needs and desires. ?What we do at Dell is work with all of the game developers and publishers and do all we can to deliver a world-class experience with gaming.?
An example is Dell?s XPS 710 H2C, a hulking desktop tower that looks as if it could have been snatched from the machined clutches of ?The Matrix.? Under its black shell, gamers can order, for instance, super-powerful hardware like an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Quad-Core processor and Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX graphics cards with SLi dual graphics technology.
....
This month, Hewlett-Packard executives unveiled an ambitious set of development initiatives to improve the video-game experience ? from the networks they are played over to the computers developers use to create games and the PCs players use to enjoy them.
For now, what the company has to show are prototypes, like wrap-around display screens for gaming that resemble giant visors. But Rahul Sood, chief technology officer for Hewlett-Packard?s global gaming business unit, said new products would be ready later this year.
For computer makers, catering to gamers is more than a niche pursuit. Worldwide, where video games amount to a $36 billion industry, ?the PC is, no doubt, the gaming platform of choice,? said Michael Arzt, senior vice president and general manager of the American office of International Cyber Marketing, the organizer of the World Cyber Games, a major video game festival.
And that market extends from professional gamers at high-end computers to those at more humble PCs.
?Not everyone wants to lay down the money for a console and a big-screen television to make it work,? Mr. Arzt said. ?The thing about the economics of the PC,? he added, is that ?everybody needs a computer.?Microsoft is instituting a number of measures to raise the profile of PC games in retail stores while lowering barriers that have made buying and playing games on computers less attractive.
Last month, it announced that it would soon extend its Xbox Live online gaming and entertainment network to include games played on PCs, a program it is calling Games for Windows ? Live.
...
Another move, he said, is to permit gamers who are more comfortable playing games with Xbox controllers than with keyboards and mice to use their Xbox controllers, wired and wireless (by way of a special $20 U.S.B. wireless adapter) with their PCs.
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: apoppin
April 24, 2007
U.S. PC Game Sales Up 48% So Far In 2007
U.S. PC Game Sales Up 48% So Far In 2007 According to data from research firm NPD Group, sales of PC games have risen by 48 percent on the previous year, during the first two months of 2007, with sales lead by the success of Blizzard?s World of WarCraft and its expansion The Burning Crusade.
Speaking in a feature by The New York Times, NPD?s Anita Frazier indicated that U.S. retails sales of PC games have risen to $203 million, from $136.8 million a year earlier. These figures do not include online sales or online subscriptions to massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as World of WarCraft.
...
-----Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
WoW has been *out* for QUITE awhile and we are talking about an increase *this year* in PC gaming ... and they do NOT count WoW or any MMORPG monthly feesPC gaming doing a record in sales? Yeah, because World of Warcraft has 7 million subscribers. There's no indication that other than the MMORPG craze spearheaded by WoW, the PC industry is growing that much, and it's certainly not diversifying.
Yes Apoppin it does count WoW sales THIS year as that is when it's expansion was sold. It just doesn't include the monthly subscription fees. So Jiffylube1024's comment stands. If you have numbers that support new customers in the PC gaming market that is one thing but these numbers are artificially inflated by the sell of WoW's expansion. Those buyers were not NEW customers. To support a rise in PC gaming popularity you need to show that people are switching to PC, not that the same 7 million dorks bought the expansion to their favorite game.
look at what i said again
they do NOT count WoW - or any MMORPG - monthly fees
:roll:
you stand corrected - i needed none
... they do NOT count WoW monthly fees ... like i said ... read more carefully
ANYWAY ... it is not *all* WoW ... nor its expansion ... not by a long shot
.... i think you should have already read the article i linked before commenting wrongly again; i posted it and *bolded* it to draw it to your attention in the quote and then you say the same old thing about WoW being the only reason PC gaming is doing well
:thumbsdown:
redux ...
Anita Frazier, an industry analyst for the NPD Group, a market research firm, noted that in the first two months of 2007, domestic retail sales of PC games reached $203 million, a 48 percent increase over the $136.8 million in the period a year earlier. She noted that these figures do not include revenue generated by PC game sales online, or online subscriptions to play PC games.
?Yes, it does look like a fluke, doesn?t it?? Ms. Frazier said. ?Rest assured it?s not.?
She said the bulk of this surge in sales is rooted in the role-playing video game genre that, itself, grew 43 percent over the same period last year. ?The robust performance we?re seeing in PC game sales can be tied to several key titles across several genres,? she said, ?but we?d be remiss not to address the continued success of World of Warcraft.?
i *know* oblivion had a huge part in this as well as some other sims and RPGs
as to your last comment about the PC being more like a console .... it is truly the "all-purpose" machine ... for those who want wireless xbox controllers for their PC ... it is now offered
and when it becomes truly wireless and more powerful, it will be in every room ... the xbox stuck by the TV
According to data from research firm NPD Group, sales of PC games have risen by 48 percent on the previous year, during the first two months of 2007, with sales lead by the success of Blizzard?s World of WarCraft and its expansion The Burning Crusade. Speaking in a feature by The New York Times, NPD?s Anita Frazier indicated that U.S. retails sales of PC games have risen to $203 million, from $136.8 million a year earlier. These figures do not include online sales or online subscriptions to massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as World of WarCraft.
Frazier identified MMOs as the key source of the increase, in particular the January release of The Burning Crusade. During January and February role-playing game sales rose by 43 percent on the PC, largely due to the release of the expansion.
here:So tell me where are you getting your info that "it is not *all* WoW ... nor its expansion ... not by a long shot "?
^that's where^the bulk of this surge in sales is rooted in the role-playing video game genre that, itself, grew 43 percent over the same period last year. ?The robust performance we?re seeing in PC game sales can be tied to several key titles across several genres,? she said, ?but we?d be remiss not to address the continued success of World of Warcraft.?
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Pugnate
Originally posted by: Matt2
In 18 months the PS3 will still be able to play PS3 games as the developer intended.
IN 18 months every PC in the world will be obsolete.
What nonsense.
What the hell? Nonsense? You saying that my comment is nonsense is complete and utter nonsense.
In 18 months Xbox360 and PS3 games will look better than they do today. If you think otherwise, I advise you to check out year 1 releases for Xbox and PS2 and then play a recent Xbox or PS2 game. On top of looking better, I'll still be able to play my Xbox360 games at 1080P. No reducing texture quality, no sacrificing dynamic lighting, no overclocking my Xbox to death just to get playable framerates.
On the other hand, in 18 months, a top of the line computer will be a steaming pile of poo. My Opteron 170 @ 2.8GHZ, X1900XTX and 2GB RAM rig is less than twelve months old and it's already obsolete as far as I'm concerned. I already have problems playing games at native resolution with decent quality settings, let alone the max quality settings with AA and AF that I was so used to when my PC was top of the line. In another six months, I wont even bother firing up a PC game because I like my games to run faster than 5 fps.
If you think I'm making this up, I urge you to not upgrade your PC for 18 months and see how happy you are with your gaming experience.
That is all.
now i will say it ... "what absolute nonsense"
you cant even play ALL your Xbox360 games even at 1080p ... right now
in two years it will be 'chug .... chug ... chug" as Xbox Devs *struggle* to keep up with the PC games
and maybe for *you* it is expensive to upgrade your PC ... the rest of us know how to *balance* a rig so it is a decent gaming machine for 18 months
:roll:
i agree *some* of us cannot manage PC gaming without spending a fortune ... or be able to run games well when they are released
for the *rest* of us ... PC gaming offers advantages over consoles
1080i and 1080p are the exact same resolution, same number of lines, etc. 1080i is just split into 2.
When you have a 1080P TV, your TV will take that 1080i signal, deinterlace it and *abracadabra* you have a 1080P picutre! 1080i 60 is the same as 1080p 30.
PIONEER DECIDED TO attack the mainstream market with the introduction of the of BDC-2202, an internal Blu-ray.
This drive will come to market in early June, and will sport a price of $299.
Physical characteristics of the drive speak of BDC-2202 being an BD/DVD combo drive, with the ability to read BD media at two different speeds (2x and 5x), depending on the type - and write on regular DVD and CD media.
The drive comes bundled with software that enables viewing the Blu-ray content and creation of personal DVD movies and slideshows, so owners of this drive will be able to watch DRM-empowered content, and of course, nor be able to write anything in HD quality.
The $299 price is neat, unless you need only a read-HD media function. But, at $199 Toshiba's HD-DVD drive is a steal, especially given the fact that you can use it on PC.
And with some appropriate drivers, you can even read files.
It seems that the early adopter phase is slowly coming to a close, and more mainstream-pricing products are set to arrive. Only problem we could find here is that both Blu-ray and HD-DVD failed to capture interest from people.
If you're now scratching your head in wonder, answer is pretty simple: James Bond: Casino Royale was touted as best selling BD movie, conveniently "forgetting" the fact that tens of thousands of PS3 buyers received a coupon for free BD featuring the very same "best-selling" movie.
Originally posted by: Brian48
The console will never go away. I see a lot of the cliente who buy these games at EB. Most are morons who would never get off their lazy butts to learn how to use a PC. The technology is spoon fed to them and that's the way they like it.
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
122...
122 posts....
In this thread alone apoppin you have posted 122 times! What is that? like 5 posts per page? Let it DIE! Bumping your personal thread each day for some reason. Are you attention deprived? This thread has some good points, but jesus apoppin, let it fricken die will ya?
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
122...
122 posts....
In this thread alone apoppin you have posted 122 times! What is that? like 5 posts per page? Let it DIE! Bumping your personal thread each day for some reason. Are you attention deprived? This thread has some good points, but jesus apoppin, let it fricken die will ya?
let me guess ... the topic *irritates* you
:roll:
i tend to *ignore* topics that bug me ... not "bump" them
--but, thanks, i guess
and IF you may or may not have noticed ... i am either 1) replying to someone ... or 2) posting something new
and i guess i should be flattered that you counted the number of posts i made in this thread
:heart:
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
122...
122 posts....
In this thread alone apoppin you have posted 122 times! What is that? like 5 posts per page? Let it DIE! Bumping your personal thread each day for some reason. Are you attention deprived? This thread has some good points, but jesus apoppin, let it fricken die will ya?
let me guess ... the topic *irritates* you
:roll:
i tend to *ignore* topics that bug me ... not "bump" them
--but, thanks, i guess
and IF you may or may not have noticed ... i am either 1) replying to someone ... or 2) posting something new
and i guess i should be flattered that you counted the number of posts i made in this thread
:heart:
lol
The topic doesnt "irritate" me....not at all. The topic is fine. It's the fact that I can't go one day on this forum without seeing it hahaha is what irritates me.
Apoppin, I HAVE ignored it up until now. You know the chinese torture thing, a drop of water on the forehead? One drop at a time, constantly, same drip speed. The first ones won't bother you that much, hell maybe even an hour wouldnt't bother you that much. But after a while, you will get really "irritated".
And yes you should be flattered, counting all those posts took me 5 minutes! :heart:
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
122...
122 posts....
In this thread alone apoppin you have posted 122 times! What is that? like 5 posts per page? Let it DIE! Bumping your personal thread each day for some reason. Are you attention deprived? This thread has some good points, but jesus apoppin, let it fricken die will ya?
let me guess ... the topic *irritates* you
:roll:
i tend to *ignore* topics that bug me ... not "bump" them
--but, thanks, i guess
and IF you may or may not have noticed ... i am either 1) replying to someone ... or 2) posting something new
and i guess i should be flattered that you counted the number of posts i made in this thread
:heart:
lol
The topic doesnt "irritate" me....not at all. The topic is fine. It's the fact that I can't go one day on this forum without seeing it hahaha is what irritates me.
Apoppin, I HAVE ignored it up until now. You know the chinese torture thing, a drop of water on the forehead? One drop at a time, constantly, same drip speed. The first ones won't bother you that much, hell maybe even an hour wouldnt't bother you that much. But after a while, you will get really "irritated".
And yes you should be flattered, counting all those posts took me 5 minutes! :heart:
i AM flattered
and well ... get 'used' to it or learn to AVERT your eyes... i DO intend to update this thread ....
IF
1) there is a comment worth replying to
[yours was]
or
2) there is *news* - like the New York Times article i posted a day or so ago that is RELEVANT to the thread
so ... eat your heart out, PC Surgeon, this topic is well ... topical and in *current news* - even mainstream news ... PS3/Xbox360/Wii/PC gaming is important to us and to know the trend is wise, imo
we learned that BluRay is not necessarily gonna 'win' the HD war [Sony exaggerated sales by giving away movies to PS3 buyers] ... that PC gaming IS increasing - rapidly ... that Sony has 'failure' when it comes to 'title exclusives' and PS3 sales are crap ... we know MS *lost* $5B on Xbox ... and that Graphics are gonna take a *leap* - 18 months for mainstream adoption of Quad Core
what is not to love?
....or would you rather argue endlessly in the 2 dozen r600/ultra threads that are more "deserving" of your time and attention ?
:lips:
go for it
see you there too
Originally posted by: apoppin
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39372PIONEER DECIDED TO attack the mainstream market with the introduction of the of BDC-2202, an internal Blu-ray.
This drive will come to market in early June, and will sport a price of $299.
Physical characteristics of the drive speak of BDC-2202 being an BD/DVD combo drive, with the ability to read BD media at two different speeds (2x and 5x), depending on the type - and write on regular DVD and CD media.
The drive comes bundled with software that enables viewing the Blu-ray content and creation of personal DVD movies and slideshows, so owners of this drive will be able to watch DRM-empowered content, and of course, nor be able to write anything in HD quality.
The $299 price is neat, unless you need only a read-HD media function. But, at $199 Toshiba's HD-DVD drive is a steal, especially given the fact that you can use it on PC.
And with some appropriate drivers, you can even read files.
It seems that the early adopter phase is slowly coming to a close, and more mainstream-pricing products are set to arrive. Only problem we could find here is that both Blu-ray and HD-DVD failed to capture interest from people.
If you're now scratching your head in wonder, answer is pretty simple: James Bond: Casino Royale was touted as best selling BD movie, conveniently "forgetting" the fact that tens of thousands of PS3 buyers received a coupon for free BD featuring the very same "best-selling" movie.