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Markfw

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OK, I added this project to one of my E5-2683's, but before I could do anything about the app_config.xml file, it was running , and at 100%.

Do I need it ? And I saw something about turning HT off, is that a good idea for this Xeon with 35 meg cache ?
 

Ken g6

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You don't need app_config if all your WUs will finish in time for the end of the race. (That's less than 4 days!) It's a lot easier than juggling to get extra WUs in, though.

I think you should either turn HT off or limit cores used to the real number of cores, if not using app_config. I'm not sure what's really best with app_config anymore.
 

Markfw

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I asked Tony in the primegrid thread, since he has 4 of them running
 

StefanR5R

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NumberFields@home Marathon
[...]
Day Three---Final
1 The Scottish Boinc Team ......... 25 ........ 17,941,203
2 Overclock.net ............................. 18 ........... 6,843,245
3 US NAVY ...................................... 15 .......... 5,905,048
4 OcUK - Overclockers UK .......... 12 .......... 4,361,562
5 TeAm AnandTech .....................10 .......... 3,836,549
6 meisterkuehler.de Team ........... 8 .......... 3,664,584
7 AMD Users ................................... 6 .......... 2,186,326

meisterkuehler.de kept going for a bit:
5 meisterkuehler.de Team ............ 10 .......... 4,456,835
6 TeAm AnandTech .......................... 8 .......... 4,236,796

I guess I'll turn my numberfields silver badge into a golden one, and win us those two marathon points back at the same time. This could take a little while though because I am still working at rounding up a certain primegrid badge, and then the next FB sprint and the Pentathlon are due.
 
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Ken g6

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meisterkuehler.de kept going for a bit:
5 meisterkuehler.de Team ............ 10 .......... 4,456,835
6 TeAm AnandTech .......................... 8 .......... 4,236,796

I guess I'll turn my numberfields silver badge into a golden one, and win us those two marathon points back at the same time. This could take a little while though because I am still working at rounding up a certain primegrid badge, and then the next FB sprint and the Pentathlon are due.
I strongly recommend you try launching one or two VMs, like I did for the race, especially since you want to do other stuff as well. It really helped me rack up the points without taking too much CPU to do it. And you never know when another project will come along that needs the same approach.
 

iwajabitw

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Any hopes of what project gets announced Wed?. Looking at the list of possible projects I see some I know are GPU and CPU, then some I have never heard of. I got my systems moved and have some CPU only systems running Skynet to keep them active. It's not much, about 16cores I think, but they are ready to go.
 

crashtech

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It would be nice to know if I ought to turn off HT on my CPU crunchers, I can't do that remotely and I'm going to be on vacation during this sprint.
 

iwajabitw

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It would be nice to know if I ought to turn off HT on my CPU crunchers, I can't do that remotely and I'm going to be on vacation during this sprint.
I would just leave them on and maybe app_config the possible GPU race projects like Seti, PrimeGrid, Don't know about GPUGrid. Then if it's all CPU you will just have more task crunching with HT on, maybe slower but I think for one race you will be fine.
 

StefanR5R

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@crashtech, my impression is that most DC applications benefit to various degree from HT. Exceptions seem to be few (i.e. applications to which HT is detrimental). Those of the latter kind should run almost identically on CPUs with HT on if the right number of workers is launched (not more than there are physical cores) and if a HT-aware scheduler is used. Among those HT-aware schedulers are: Linux's (AFAIK); Windows's with the right power profile (AFAIU); the built-in thread scheduler of PrimeGrid LLR v8 with multithreading option enabled (from what I have read).
 

crashtech

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@crashtech, my impression is that most DC applications benefit to various degree from HT. Exceptions seem to be few (i.e. applications to which HT is detrimental). Those of the latter kind should run almost identically on CPUs with HT on if the right number of workers is launched (not more than there are physical cores) and if a HT-aware scheduler is used. Among those HT-aware schedulers are: Linux's (AFAIK); Windows's with the right power profile (AFAIU); the built-in thread scheduler of PrimeGrid LLR v8 with multithreading option enabled (from what I have read).
Thanks for the information! My ability to experiment and gather data on my own is very limited at present. Perhaps I ought to turn HT back on on the machine that was being used for PrimeGrid, that last race with the PSP LLR seemed to be one of the exceptions that I was mistaking for the rule.
 

StefanR5R

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meisterkuehler.de kept going for a bit:
5 meisterkuehler.de Team ............ 10 .......... 4,456,835
6 TeAm AnandTech .......................... 8 .......... 4,236,796

I guess I'll turn my numberfields silver badge into a golden one, and win us those two marathon points back at the same time. This could take a little while though because I am still working at rounding up a certain primegrid badge, and then the next FB sprint and the Pentathlon are due.

Well... while we are a little bit ahead of meisterkuehler again, and I am on the way from gold to sapphire, I recall now that they had 1.7 M points before the sprint while we had none. If they'd maintain this rate for the rest of the year, we would need (1.7 M / 3.5 months) * 8 months = 4 M points to stay ahead. Obviously doable, but there is so much else to accomplish.
 

TennesseeTony

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One out of three isn't bad, I guess you do deserve to have a 2nd (4th) chance.

Thanks for the reminder! We find out the next Sprint project tomorrow at 2100 UTC fellas!
 
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Ken g6

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...World Community Grid. (Thanks for the set-up!)
 

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Which project(s) are best? Or is there any significant difference?
 

crashtech

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Wow, I've been tripped up by the noobest of noob problems. Says my password's wrong, reset it, and it still won't let me in...
 

Ken g6

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Looks like Zika and Childhood Cancer are the highest point per hour
Also, it looks like there's a limit on tasks you can download at once, and Fight Aids@Home has really fast tasks, so you might want to avoid those when bunkering.
 
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