god texmaster you need to be less combative and take yourself a lot less seriously. you haven't proven a single thing you've said with articles. you said this is what o'reilly thinks about these 3 issues so therefore he MUST be liberal. you haven't proven that he thinks this way or even pointed to where he said this himself (and really adequate proof would be from a 3rd party b/c obviously quoting him for proof is as stupid as quoting the Bible for proof in a debate about the validity of Christianity) I'm not sure why I'm wasting my time with this since first you are (1) insulting (2) you haven't proven anything (3) I could prove it and you wouldn't even be capable of changing your mind on this or any other issue, regardless of whatever proof I delivered, but why the heck not. I'll probably not go back and forth though.
here is clips from the Atlanta newspaper:
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CNN loses ratings lead over rival Fox News
By MATT KEMPNER
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer
Despite new bosses, improved on-air promotions and new anchors, CNN has lost its ratings lead over rival Fox News Network.
Fox beat CNN in prime time during the November ratings period. CNN, however, beat Fox for all-day numbers. MSNBC finished third in both cases, according to Nielsen Media Research data provided by the networks. The results underscore a lesson for CNN: When the biggest news happens, CNN wins. But as news tapers off, CNN's viewers drift away in big numbers, while more Fox viewers stick around.
CNN easily outdistanced its competition after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. CNN executives used the spotlight to launch two of their biggest new anchors: Aaron Brown and former Fox anchor Paula Zahn.
The move paid off initially. Aided by war and anthrax news, Zahn bested Fox's once overwhelmingly dominant morning lineup. For November, she edged out Fox in ratings. Brown also won his time slot.
But in one of the biggest battles -- the rivalry between talkmeisters -- Fox's Bill O'Reilly easily beat CNN's Larry King. Among flagship business shows, "Moneyline With Lou Dobbs" tied Fox's "Your World With Neil Cavuto." Both easily outdistanced CNBC's "Business Center."
notice how they say CNN gets more ratings around big news events and then tapers off while Fox viewers stick around. this supports what I say.
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here is a quote that supports what i say:
"One thing that Fox News offers, which its competitors are a little less likely to offer, is that its reporters are more opinionated," says Jamie Rhind, media director of Avrett Free & Ginsberg.
"It?s more than reporting. They have taken a stance on issues. Perhaps people want that from newscasters now and not just the news."
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another:
"Fox News, which is best known for its outspoken primetime host, Bill O?Reilly, and its reputation for being considerably right-of-center, has edged past CNN among households." - Kevin Downey is a staff writer for Media Life.
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here are some interesting stats:
"Fox's viewers typically live in the "red" states. On average they're 57-year-olds who make $57,880 a year, the highest income of any viewership except CNBC. These viewers consider themselves religious"
that audience clearly leans to the right
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the problem is that now they are shooting themselves in the foot. Their editorial slant makes Democrat candidates treat them worse :
"When Al Gore announced Joseph Lieberman as his running mate, Mr. Lieberman made the rounds to all of the various television news outlets except Fox News. Fox was told by a campaign spokesman that it had been left out of the loop because it had "a certain editorial predisposition and because of that you will sometimes be left out.""
it's a spiral, Democrats avoid Fox News b/c it's conservative, people perceive Fox News to be more conservative b/c of the lack of these individuals in balance with others, etc
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finally re: O'Reilly as a crossfire show, I'll be honest. O'Reilly is a coward, only chooses guests he know he can dominate and when he loses on an issue , he skirts the issue, goes to commercial. He is an entertainer and nothing more, and he knows it. I A crossfire is too equally matched invidiuals, both regulars on the show. If you think this is crossfire, we are thinking very different things.
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Here's a suggestion, lead by example. instead of adopting a combative insulting tone with me or anyone else, actually put up proof of what you say. instead of whining i have not provided proof, actually provide proof yourself so that I look stupid (you're a smart guy and you could do this I am sure if you put your mind to it)
instead now you look a little stupid for demanding proof without providing it in any real way (and for me providing it from multiple sources), and that is disappointing to me b/c then we have to resort to flinging insults (little different than monkeys flinging feces IMO) which seems like such a waste of time to me.