Fox News has really dropped all pretense of being non-partisan.

[VinylxScratches]

Look at how well Fox does Breaking News - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEiTP8NN96s

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Look at how well Fox does Breaking News - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEiTP8NN96s

hehe, Live News has mess ups all the time, but that was pretty bad.

 

[Carmen813]

The more "news" I get from cable television, the less informed I feel.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Here yah go

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Look at how well Fox does Breaking News - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEiTP8NN96s

first girl was hot.

fox news is shit at the bottom of my shoe

 

[nageov3t]

to be honest, I'd rather watch news that's overly critical and suss out where the balance lies rather than watch sycophantic news and not hear any criticism of the people in power whatsoever.

but I don't watch a whole heckuva lot of tv news to begin with.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Here yah go

Except that he's not nearly as bad as O'Reilly. Hence the link to satire, not clips.

 

[StageLeft]

Olberman isn't as aggressive as o'reilly but he is probably in fact more of a partisan hack. He tows the democratic line like a well programmed robot.

I remember something coming out a couple years ago it showed Fox viewers were demonstrably more ignorant than those of other broadcasts. However, last fall (?) something came out showing that MSNBC was quantifiably more biased to positive Obama coverage, and not by a little but by a lot. How it is still one of the more (if not he most) popular news sources now is unfortunate.

 

[Czar]

http://www.videosift.com/playl.../Hex/Fox-News-Scandals

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
And they DOMINATE the ratings. Which tells me that the other networks are clearly left leaning.

I'd love to hear the logic behind that one.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I don't find CNN particularly biased towards the Republicans or the Democrats at all. In addition, the sheer magnitude of Fox's bias is so much greater than any of the other networks, MSNBC included, that it deserves special mention.

That must be why last night Wolf Blitzer and a reporter were reminiscing about how they jizzed their pants on the night Obama won. "Did you cry?" "It hasn't been that long since we had a president who was so fun to make fun of [sic]." "I haven't met the president yet, but if I do I would probably drop to me knees and polish his knob." lol yea, they are so neutral.

Your mixing up the news as reported with their personal comments. They do have a love affair with Obama, it doesnt mean they don't report fairly... I love my wife dearly, but I could give you a huge list of her flaws and faults and actions that pissed me off if you asked me to be honest and list them. The 2 can co-exist. Of course they have a love affair with Obama America has a love affair with Obama[/b]. As a whole, our country voted for him overwhelmingly and love him. Get used to it, you have 7 1/2 more years to go =)

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Here yah go

Now republicans are using saturday night live clips to prove their points. Are you retarded?

 

[irishScott]

http://sendables.jibjab.com/or.../what_we_call_the_news

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I don't find CNN particularly biased towards the Republicans or the Democrats at all. In addition, the sheer magnitude of Fox's bias is so much greater than any of the other networks, MSNBC included, that it deserves special mention.

That must be why last night Wolf Blitzer and a reporter were reminiscing about how they jizzed their pants on the night Obama won. "Did you cry?" "It hasn't been that long since we had a president who was so fun to make fun of [sic]." "I haven't met the president yet, but if I do I would probably drop to me knees and polish his knob." lol yea, they are so neutral.

*sigh*

A reporter having a personal opinion does not mean that the network's actual reporting is slanted. This might be a shock to people such as yourself, but professionals can separate personal feelings from their job. Considering the fact that every person on the planet has a personal opinion, the only conclusion you could then reach is that all news is biased. While that may be true in some academic sense, we are clearly talking about a significant, noticeable bias like Fox has, and to try and apply this notion of bias to all outlets due to this would simply define the word out of existence.

I know your myth of persecution only works if everyone is lined up and biased against you, but unfortunately for you it's exactly that, a myth. (actually that's fortunate isn't it!?!)

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Stereotyping liberals as logic-driven intellectuals and conservatives as neanderthals is ridiculous. Both liberals and conservatives have smart, rational people, as well as blind idiots.

It's called suppy and demand. Of course there are smart and dumb people on both sides, but how much so? If conservatives were mostly smart (which they aren't of course), there would be a wholesale rejection of talk radio and fox news and more william f buckley's in the rightwing media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: Phokus
It's called suppy and demand. Of course there are smart and dumb people on both sides, but how much so? If conservatives were mostly smart (which they aren't of course), there would be a wholesale rejection of talk radio and fox news and more william f buckley's in the rightwing media.

I'd have to agree, liberalism just makes more sense, which translates into requiring more smart people to be able to see the logic. I'd even go as far to say that most liberals probably have college degrees or multiple. On the other hand, conservatives are driven by ideology, they don't really care if what they believe makes sense or stands up to logic, because it doesn't need to.

Look, as long as you understand that you saying there's some sort of supply/demand at work between smart people and politics makes you one of the dumbest people ever, fine, more entertainment for us. It's just not true, the way you're arriving at that conclusion is first by not thinking, but I'll give you one thing, liberals do tend to try to justify themselves with logic, because they feel like that makes them smarter (and yes, I do believe that you think you're really smart), and conservatives often try to justify themselves with ideology, or morality, because they think that morality will always transcend logic.

Both have merit of course, and the best policies on either side are able to stand up to both logical and moral scrutiny. But don't confuse this with one side being smarter or dumber than the other.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Here yah go

Now republicans are using saturday night live clips to prove their points. Are you retarded?

Naw, just thought I'd lighten up this thread. I would have loved to have added to your discussion, but here you are stereotyping and calling names like your shit don't stink either.

I'd rather be retarded than whatever the fuck you are.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Here yah go

Now republicans are using saturday night live clips to prove their points. Are you retarded?

Naw, just thought I'd lighten up this thread. I would have loved to have added to your discussion, but here you are stereotyping and calling names like your shit don't stink either.

I'd rather be retarded than whatever the fuck you are.

Of course you would, ignorance is bliss afterall

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Pocatello
FOX is pretty smart, it's the only network for the conservatives on TV, while the other networks have to fight each other for the same group of liberals. Personally, I rarely get any useful news from FOX, but it's entertaining to watch.

It's more the format and the intellectual levels of both liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't exactly do 'high brow' well and liberals don't do 'low brow' well. That is why NPR is so popular amongst liberals. Liberals typically want information rather than entertainment when getting the news, whereas conservatives are driven less by intellect and more by emotion (mostly anger) and the need to stimulate that emotion from whack jobs like bill o'reilly/hannity'/beck. Facts take a back seat to passion. I really cannot envision a liberal version of bill o'reilly where the host screams at his guests and threatens to cut off their microphone.

Here yah go

Now republicans are using saturday night live clips to prove their points. Are you retarded?

Naw, just thought I'd lighten up this thread. I would have loved to have added to your discussion, but here you are stereotyping and calling names like your shit don't stink either.

I'd rather be retarded than whatever the fuck you are.

Of course you would, ignorance is bliss afterall

You are right, to an extent. There are really stupid people on both sides of the fence, but for the most part your average liberal is certainly smarter than your average conservative.

But to come out and call all conservatives stupid is just as bad as one of them coming out and calling all libs stupid. There are plenty of issues where you can point out why the policy or beleif of the right is stupid rather than individuals.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Oh please - MSNBC is kissing one cheek of Obama and CNN is kissing the other cheek.

I'm not saying Fox isn't unbiased certainly (far from it), but they most definitely weren't in bed with Bush the way the liberal media is with Obama.

On a scale of 1-100 (Liberal-Conservative) I would say that MSNBC is 25, CNN is 30, and Fox is 60-65ish. With this in mind, my opinion is based on evening and situational news, not on the opinion shows and stuff.

If I want fair news, I just go online read a bunch of articles off whatever is listed on Google news and form my opinion from there. Trying to watch the media is a lost cause on all sides.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

These liberal = logical arguments are ridiculous. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will reduce crime? Giving certain races benefits over other races will solve racism? I am sure there are others. And that's certainly not to say conservatives don't have more than their fair share of illogical stances. Anyone fitting the stereotypical liberal or conservative label is about as far from logical as you can get as a lot of their stances are even logically inconsistent with one another regardless of any logic in and of themselves. A better summary description of liberal vs. conservative is well-meaning moron vs. angry moron.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Oh please - MSNBC is kissing one cheek of Obama and CNN is kissing the other cheek.

I'm not saying Fox isn't unbiased certainly (far from it), but they most definitely weren't in bed with Bush the way the liberal media is with Obama.

On a scale of 1-100 (Liberal-Conservative) I would say that MSNBC is 25, CNN is 30, and Fox is 60-65ish. With this in mind, my opinion is based on evening and situational news, not on the opinion shows and stuff.

If I want fair news, I just go online read a bunch of articles off whatever is listed on Google news and form my opinion from there. Trying to watch the media is a lost cause on all sides.

Glad to see on your magical made up scale that CNN is biased. Actual academic research on the subject shows otherwise. (as has been linked to in many other threads.)

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Oh please - MSNBC is kissing one cheek of Obama and CNN is kissing the other cheek.

I'm not saying Fox isn't unbiased certainly (far from it), but they most definitely weren't in bed with Bush the way the liberal media is with Obama.

On a scale of 1-100 (Liberal-Conservative) I would say that MSNBC is 25, CNN is 30, and Fox is 60-65ish. With this in mind, my opinion is based on evening and situational news, not on the opinion shows and stuff.

If I want fair news, I just go online read a bunch of articles off whatever is listed on Google news and form my opinion from there. Trying to watch the media is a lost cause on all sides.

I too can pull numbers on subjective issues out of my ass

republicans.txt

 

[squirrel dog]

As Fear No Evil has pointed out , its all about Ratings
and hot chicks . Fox Rules the ratings war and has done so for a long time .

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: squirrel dog
As Fear No Evil has pointed out , its all about Ratings
and hot chicks . Fox Rules the ratings war and has done so for a long time .

Definitely, and Fox has found out that they can get ratings by being a far right wing pseudo-news organization. I have no doubt that if they thought they could make more money being as far or even farther to the left that they would do the same.