FOX News Latino, because latino news is different than whitey news

dammitgibs

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http://latino.foxnews.com/index.html



I don't know how long this has been around but I just noticed this today, wtf? Are we so divided as a culture that ethnic groups need their own news stations? Or is this just pandering to different groups? Where is my FOX news Scandinavian? RACIST!
 

hal2kilo

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http://latino.foxnews.com/index.html



I don't know how long this has been around but I just noticed this today, wtf? Are we so divided as a culture that ethnic groups need their own news stations? Or is this just pandering to different groups? Where is my FOX news Scandinavian? RACIST!

Murdoch needs some more fresh meat to prapagandize about how the rich will be our saviors. Already got the retired and low information white people watching. Obviously, it can't be their regular fare subtitled or translated into english, otherwise the hispanics would be offended.
 

dammitgibs

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Murdoch needs some more fresh meat to prapagandize about how the rich will be our saviors. Already got the retired and low information white people watching. Obviously, it can't be their regular fare subtitled or translated into english, otherwise the hispanics would be offended.

Sir, you sound so enlightened, we should give a helping hand to these dirty brown people so we can feel good about ourselves.
 

Craig234

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It's legitimate that there are different groups in society who want different things, including different news priorities.

It's unfortunate when the differences are manufactured to create an army of dupes for an agenda by buying the spot, though.

It's pretty simple, Republicans face a real political threat as Latino voters increase their percentage among voters - and their interests lie with Democrats more.

Naturally, Republicans would like to persuade as many of them as possible to side with them, just as they have with poor white voters.

Enter Fox Latin, to try to do that, which they're pretty good at. Spend the money, find the carrots to draw viewers (pretty newscasters, pandering?), and then hype the anti-Democratic angle and the pro-Republican angle so that viewers start to form the 'Fox army' for Republicans.

The Demcorats could use a left-wing version, and don't have it.

All they have are the more honest 'Fox debunking' shows, from the MSNBC shows to the Daily Show, who are watched by people who know a lie when they see it on Fox.
 

Double Trouble

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It's a competitive market, anyone who comes up with something the public wants can be successful. If there are enough hispanics who want a product that's more geared towards them, then that's what they'll get, just like any other group. Liberals want to see a different news product than conservatives, so you get MSNBC/CNN/CBS/ABC versus Fox. I don't see this as being any different, it's just a company delivering a service for which there is a demand in the marketplace.
 

Double Trouble

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This kind of thing does show the US is becoming less and less integrated. No longer do we all sort of "melt" into an American culture where each group brings their own flavors. Because of the internet/cable etc, groups now have services that cater to their likes and dislikes. They don't meld together as much, each group has blinders on for other groups in the country.

It's true for any kind of grouping... political, ethnic, cultural, religious etc. Instead of one mixed culture, we appear to be heading towards being a country of separate groups that interact as little as possible with one another, they all just stay in the echo chamber of what they want to hear (fox news, BET, Univision etc are good examples of this).
 

feralkid

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Ethnocentric twit falls off turnip truck, notices diversity and freaks out...film at eleven.
 

Lanyap

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My favorite Chinese restaurant now has bilingual fortune cookies.
 

Double Trouble

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My favorite Chinese restaurant now has bilingual fortune cookies.

Shows you how screwed up this country has gotten.....

Learning languages is a good thing (I speak 6 fluently and I'm teaching my kids multiple as well), but it's sad when a portion of the country is so detached that they don't bother to learn the dominant language and instead substitute theirs.
 

IGBT

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day late..dollar short and took the wrong road. Mr Oblivious finally wakes up and notices.
 

bfdd

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Craig, MSNBC has as little credibility as Fox News, in fact they're worse because their production values are terrible compared to Fox. I mean if I'm watching entertainment it has to at least be on Fox's level, not some third grade bullshit MSNBC calls news.
 

nick1985

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Craig, MSNBC has as little credibility as Fox News, in fact they're worse because their production values are terrible compared to Fox. I mean if I'm watching entertainment it has to at least be on Fox's level, not some third grade bullshit MSNBC calls news.

No. MSNBC is honest. Craig says so
 

actuarial

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Shows you how screwed up this country has gotten.....

No it doesn't. If anything's screwed up, it's that people like you would get all in a huff if the fortune cookies in a predominately Spanish area wouldn't have English on them.

Why is it screwed up to cater to the preferences of your customer?
 

Double Trouble

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No it doesn't. If anything's screwed up, it's that people like you would get all in a huff if the fortune cookies in a predominately Spanish area wouldn't have English on them.

Why is it screwed up to cater to the preferences of your customer?

Catering to the preferences of your customers is perfectly fine. What makes it so screwed up is that there are that many customers who can't speak English in the US that the store feels the need to provide bilingual fortune cookies. It shows how integration and assimilation is no longer taking place..... Ultimately, that's going to be the undoing of this country, it will cease to be a melting pot and just be a series of polarized groups all vying for their interests and not that of the country as a whole, since they don't have much in common with the "others".
 

Craig234

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Catering to the preferences of your customers is perfectly fine. What makes it so screwed up is that there are that many customers who can't speak English in the US that the store feels the need to provide bilingual fortune cookies. It shows how integration and assimilation is no longer taking place..... Ultimately, that's going to be the undoing of this country, it will cease to be a melting pot and just be a series of polarized groups all vying for their interests and not that of the country as a whole, since they don't have much in common with the "others".

We already have that, with the massive right-wing creation of division through 'think tanks' and media radicalizing millions of Americans - it's just not racial, it's ideological.

And it's far more harmful.

Just as the McCarthyist and John Birch type movements were, except they were much more fringe and short-lived than this unprecedented corrupt 'movement' we now have.

Nutjobs warning against fluoride and a drunk waving blank pages as 'commie lists' couldn't compete with the massive industry we now have pushing its lies everywhere.

Which is why mainstream American policies even at the height of the John Birch era, like the income and tax distribution we had then, are viewed as radical left today.

The biggest shift of America's wealth to a few at the top began decades ago, but has been hidden by people keeping some standard of living under debt and Chinese labor.

That's why the numbers show all new wealth for decades going to the top, yet people not seeing the slashes in standard of living don't get too upset.

Ironically, when they DO get upset - 'look at that big debt!' - they are pushed to do just the wrong things - call for 'small government' to not regulate the problems, oppose any short-term stimulus to reduce problems, demand we destroy the programs that benefit the middle class while leaving the rich even richer.

All of this is a radical program for the rich, but the right-wing ideology machine convinces people that's not the problem, the problem is 'the liberals' who provide the small opposition there is in the way of their takeover of the country's wealth, and this forum has many who are complete suckers parroting their propaganda.

For them, the issue is 'people don't understand we have to cut benefits with this huge debt' - not the real problems causing this disaster.

The funny thing is, just as great armies have been obliterated by bad wars, after this process the 'Middle Class' is a relatively powerless class of serfs who can no longer do anything about the problems, as they could have in recent times if they had not lost the war of propaganda making them surrender.

The Middle Class is like the millions of natives who faced hundreds of motivated, armed European invaders, and lost the war.

And it's a hell of a lot harder to beat the enemy after losing that war, as the Middle Class is losing it now.

Coming up will be assaults on democracy, where 'the people' have their rights to have a government that restricts the rich chopped off at the knees permanently.

As much as the rich have enjoyed merely co-opting the government, and even many of the people, to serve them, they don't like the threat that could change, like with FDR.

We are now faced with a war among the most critical to the welfare of the American people that has happened in American history - but most don't understand it exists.

'Times are good', 'for all the problems you don't see people starving in the street'.

We're paving the road for much worse.

For example, I've long watched for a consequence of these shifts to eventually be falling wages for Americans generally; now, there are news stories that is coming.

Bit by bit, continuing the shift downward, from the higher standard of living since FDR for the middle class, except now, countering that is 'radical leftist policies'.

The next generation and the next are going to have every reason to hate the appeasing Americans now who let the rich win and crippled them.

America's role was to lead the world to better things - not to let the rich pull her down and allow the plutocrats around the world to rule and cement their power.

When the gap between the income - and standard of living - between the world's poor workers and American workers is more reduced, what happens to Americans, who are now in unsustainable debt? The rich are not facing the permanent reductions as everyone else - they've been shooting up to their permanent new position of owning a far larger share of the wealth of the nation, and all the 'means of production', i.e., anything that makes yet more wealth.

You may hate the illegal Mexican immigrants - but the rich want the poorer groups hating each other, divide and conquer. You have more interests in common with the Mexicans, and should unite with them for those common interests, but that's how it goes, the poorer groups fall for the provocations and battle each other while the rich win the war.

Understand, this isn't 'war on the rich' - we need a certain amount of inequality for an efficient productivity, we want rich people and they do some critical things for society.

It's the war from a balanced economy into one of plutocracy that their agenda is harmful to the public interest.

In the past, these tendencies could lead to 'revolution' and the French got carried away chopping off heads. Those days are not coming back.

The people cannot 'revolt' anymore, other than if they somehow defeat the right-wing propaganda machine to unite on a political movement, which it seems, they can't.

Our historic 'victory' of the people's revolt in 2008 was to elect a man whose biggest private donor was Goldman Sachs, who put the same old interests in power.

And now, instead of doing better and electing real reform, the people are going back to voting in the radical right itself.

We need to reign in the concentration of wealth, and increase opportunity among more people, not reduce it as we are.

In the shorter term we need to do this for the US, and in the longer term we need poorer nations doing better. That means opposing concentration of wealth.

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trenchfoot

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You don't really believe that, do you?


The Jedi mind trick does not work on Craig.

On topic, here in Hawaii, we have some TV stations that broadcast ethnically oriented fare on the public channels, including german, japanese, samoan, british, tongan, chinese, vietnamese, korean, latino, filipino, etc. It's fun to watch how other cultures view the world through their eyes.
 
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Nintendesert

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Not everyone wants to be a WASP. This melting pot nonesense is just that. Boston isn't mostly Irish because they integrated with the rest of the country when the Irish came to America.

There aren't Chinatowns and Koreatowns and Little Italy because people want to be around a bunch of strange faces.

That's the real America. A land of self imposed segregation that through generations of change eventually leads to an integrated America. The Hispanic community is simply at the same point in the immigration process that the Chinese and Irish and everyone else went through 150 years ago.
 
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