Fox News now thinks low gas prices under Obama are bad

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Fern

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Have you seen our oil production and our oil dependency numbers lately? You don't think Obamas energy policy has anything to do with it?

No.

Increased production has mostly come from private lands. Obama has nothing to do with that.

It's old news that lower prices are mostly the result of a poor global economy. I say "mostly" because I suspect some other motivations may be at play. E.g., Saudi Arabia and others not decreasing production to apply pressure to Putin via the lower price for oil.

Fern
 

Moonbeam

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I know that oil prices are tied to the global market. The decrease in oil prices are due to cutbacks in use in other industrial nations. Consequently the global price of oil is not Obama's credit or fault. This is an item traded on the open market and subject to speculation and manipulation of supply and demand.

Note I said nothing about Obama's oil policy which I have no personal problem with. What you might have missed was my comment about needing cheap energy which is something other than fossil fuel. Ideally we would be off national grids and generating power through alternative means with a more robust topology. The Grid has become very complex and vulnerable and producing one's own energy should be obvious, if it's inexpensive. If single installations were to prove disadvantageous then a network of local clusters of power sources would provide redundancy without the need for a completely interconnected system.

All of this was being thought about during the Carter years and it's fallen to the wayside ever since. If we had invested the resources appropriate to such a task over the last 40 years who knows what we might enjoy today? We might have avoided trillions in wars and who knows how many deaths? The side discoveries might have been of incalculable value. What happened instead? Drill baby drill.

Your post has caused me to feel sad about the last 40 years. Isn't there something about the 100th monkey or something like that that might offer hope? The picture I had that made me think of monkeys was humanity driving through the fog, with a few folk in the car who can see through it. It makes no difference that they have vision because all the others are blind. This is why I see humanity as one big giant mechanical machine. It simply sloops this way or that like a giant amoeba and turns like a battleship.
 

ivwshane

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No.

Increased production has mostly come from private lands. Obama has nothing to do with that.

It's old news that lower prices are mostly the result of a poor global economy. I say "mostly" because I suspect some other motivations may be at play. E.g., Saudi Arabia and others not decreasing production to apply pressure to Putin via the lower price for oil.

Fern

True

I've already posted the reasons for the decrease in oil prices (see OPEC and what the Saudis are currently doing).

This all goes to show that increasing/decreasing oil supply/drilling is a pointless maneuver when you essentially have an oligarchy of businesses controlling the price of oil. The best policy is one that doesn't rely on a commodity that we have no control over.
 

Regs

Lifer
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I am pretty sure nothing about that Fox report mentioned anything about Obama. It's a simple fact of economics. It's cyclical.

Simply said, the shit will get stock piled until oil companies find it no longer profitable to keep producing at high rates. They will cut back production to cut production costs. Nothing the president did to cause this.
 

zanejohnson

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hold on.


your not saying, that, you thought..fox news.. was any sort of real? news? network?


my lord.

look, ALL of the mainstream media news outlets on cable TV are nothing but controlled, ENTERTAINMENT, and PROPOGANDA.

i didnt think there was anyone who actually believed this stuff, i mean, i see old people watching fox news religiously, but i figured even they knew, it was just propoganda/entertainment???
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Your post has caused me to feel sad about the last 40 years. Isn't there something about the 100th monkey or something like that that might offer hope? The picture I had that made me think of monkeys was humanity driving through the fog, with a few folk in the car who can see through it. It makes no difference that they have vision because all the others are blind. This is why I see humanity as one big giant mechanical machine. It simply sloops this way or that like a giant amoeba and turns like a battleship.

I know what you say is true but I cannot understand it. I suppose that's not a bad thing. To know blindness is to be blind. It's still not too late because I expect the world will be here in another 40 years, but no more today see ahead than then did those many years ago. We don't plan, we fumble and ask for salvation whether by God or man when crisis strikes. We seem to have lost the ability to look past the next financial quarter, much less years out, if we ever had it.

Part of the weakness of the species I'm afraid.
 

sportage

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I love my oil wells. All 80 acres worth in ND.
So don't you dare piss in my oil.
 

michal1980

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Deny??? Really???

Here the "some people say" in this case "some people interpret" is at the end but a good example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfbbSQ5FXY

Here she is explaining "I didn't say it other people in the media did"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8oIy6Crrs

Yet you will continue to deny


you've been owned. Your bitching about fox and low gas prices, but fox was not the only one asking the question, and they weren't even the first. But your so consumed in fox hate that no matter what they do you rage against them. Heres a thought, if you hate fox so much DONT WATCH THEM.
 

Annisman*

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Oh so kind of like how no matter what the weather is like it's from global warming, er I mean climate change. Amiright
 

HomerJS

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you've been owned. Your bitching about fox and low gas prices, but fox was not the only one asking the question, and they weren't even the first. But your so consumed in fox hate that no matter what they do you rage against them. Heres a thought, if you hate fox so much DONT WATCH THEM.

Rambling non-sequitur yet fail to answer question. Fox took both sides of gas prices just to attack the president.

Take a look at the Jon Stewart clip who brilliantly put it

Fox figured out you can put a question mark at the end of a sentence and say fucking anything!
 

Matt1970

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Deny??? Really???

Here the "some people say" in this case "some people interpret" is at the end but a good example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQfbbSQ5FXY

Here she is explaining "I didn't say it other people in the media did"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8oIy6Crrs

Yet you will continue to deny

Oh I am the one in denial? When shown many other sources doing the same exact thing you just posted, you said this:

Did these same sources blame Obama for high gas prices then flip-flop just to take shots at Obama??
 

michal1980

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Rambling non-sequitur yet fail to answer question. Fox took both sides of gas prices just to attack the president.

Take a look at the Jon Stewart clip who brilliantly put it

Fox figured out you can put a question mark at the end of a sentence and say fucking anything!

when losing divert.
 
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That's called the Cavuto mark. Jon Stewart explains it well.
A Cavuto mark, by definition, appears at the end of an unsubstantiated claim...perhaps you don't understand what a Cavuto mark is or didn't read or understand any of the numerous articles on this subject from several other esteemed media sources previously posted in this thread. Wipe that saliva froth from your mouth and think ffs.
 

bshole

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you've been owned. Your bitching about fox and low gas prices, but fox was not the only one asking the question, and they weren't even the first. But your so consumed in fox hate that no matter what they do you rage against them. Heres a thought, if you hate fox so much DONT WATCH THEM.

I watch FOX New for amusement. They are so over the top retarded that it is frankly funny. It is slightly frightening that there are knuckle dragging mouth breathers in America that buy their schtick.
 

unokitty

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HomerJS

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I watch FOX New for amusement. They are so over the top retarded that it is frankly funny. It is slightly frightening that there are knuckle dragging mouth breathers in America that buy their schtick.

and McDonalds is the #1 restaurant in the country. We all know what happens if that is your exclusive diet.
 

Londo_Jowo

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I watch FOX New for amusement. They are so over the top retarded that it is frankly funny. It is slightly frightening that there are knuckle dragging mouth breathers in America that buy their schtick.

I'm sure that FoxNews execs are laughing their way to the bank with the sponsor funding that's based on viewership that includes yourself.
 
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