Fox News thread:3-8-07 Edwards passes on debate in Vegas because Fox News was to be mediator

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Genx87
lmao nothing screams I can't take the heat then running like a sissy from a debate because the mediator doesnt tow your parties line.

I think it is safe to safe Edwards fits your atypical pussy liberal image.

Do you understand what "atypical" means?

Hint: We can assume you are trying to insult Edwards and / or The Democratic Party / Liberals, so you may want to edit your post.

I'm surprised he didn't insert the "f" word while he was at it (cuz he surely was thinking it)

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
So Democrats are still hobbled by the extreme wing of their party? How is that news?

Oh, its news because its an opportunity to call Fox a non-news site? Fox is as much about news as CNN or MSNBC are. I don't watch any of them for my news.

You have to love it, refuse to debate on the basis that MoveOn.org ran a poll? MoveOn.org calling someone else bias is hilarious.

They keep moving further to the left, so MoveOn.org is the new center and source of all reason.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Shivetya
So Democrats are still hobbled by the extreme wing of their party? How is that news?

Oh, its news because its an opportunity to call Fox a non-news site? Fox is as much about news as CNN or MSNBC are. I don't watch any of them for my news.

You have to love it, refuse to debate on the basis that MoveOn.org ran a poll? MoveOn.org calling someone else bias is hilarious.

They keep moving further to the left, so MoveOn.org is the new center and source of all reason.

Yeah--anyone who doesn't toe the administration's line is obviously conspiring with the terrorists :roll:

 

[ProfJohn]

Well looking at the poll results I think we have settled our 'Does P&N lean to the left or right discussion.'

Interestingly the non-news channel beat every other cable news channel ratings during the coverage of the Libby verdict. So they must be doing something right.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
So Democrats are still hobbled by the extreme wing of their party? How is that news?

Oh, its news because its an opportunity to call Fox a non-news site? Fox is as much about news as CNN or MSNBC are. I don't watch any of them for my news.

You have to love it, refuse to debate on the basis that MoveOn.org ran a poll? MoveOn.org calling someone else bias is hilarious.

That was awesome that you compared CNN to Geraldo, one of Fox's regular contributors (and who had his own show on there for a bit). Fox isn't news. It's not even close to news. While I'm sure there are some times where the other networks have made some stories that weren't exactly uhmm.... fair and balanced.... nothing compares to the sheer volume of crap and propaganda that comes out of Fox.

Oh, and if you can't tell the difference between Moveon.org and fox news, then you're not even trying. Moveon publically says its partisan. Fox news publically claims that its not. The mere fact that these are comparable shows Fox is trash.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think Edwards has called a spade a spade---you can't have clearly slanted commentary and still label yourself as a legitimate news channel----you can have it one way or the other but not both.

So that means that MSNBC can no longer be called a news channel? Olberman is about as slanted as they come.

 

[kage69]

Finally Murdocks's propaganda channel being labeled what it really is.

Something Murdock did himself awhile ago actually, yet all the cheerleaders chanting their " it's no different than CNN!" mantra have avoided it like the plague and continue their bleating.

Edwards passing on a debate with FOX? Wow, shocker! That's like a BBQ enthusiast declining to attend a food festival thrown by PETA. He has better things to do with his time, and I say that as someone not particularly thrilled with Edwards

No one pushes the corporate/political kiss-ass mentality like Newscorp (although there are imitators!), and I can't blame anyone for realizing how opposed that is with the role of an impartial mediator. When the White House needs a shill, they go to Fox for a reason folks. Other than hiring a gay prostitute to impersonate a reporter in between sleep-overs anyway...

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Shivetya
So Democrats are still hobbled by the extreme wing of their party? How is that news?

Oh, its news because its an opportunity to call Fox a non-news site? Fox is as much about news as CNN or MSNBC are. I don't watch any of them for my news.

You have to love it, refuse to debate on the basis that MoveOn.org ran a poll? MoveOn.org calling someone else bias is hilarious.

That was awesome that you compared CNN to Geraldo, one of Fox's regular contributors (and who had his own show on there for a bit). Fox isn't news. It's not even close to news. While I'm sure there are some times where the other networks have made some stories that weren't exactly uhmm.... fair and balanced.... nothing compares to the sheer volume of crap and propaganda that comes out of Fox.

Oh, and if you can't tell the difference between Moveon.org and fox news, then you're not even trying. Moveon publically says its partisan. Fox news publically claims that its not. The mere fact that these are comparable shows Fox is trash.

I'm glad someone else caught this. I pointed it out many posts ago, but it was just ignored as it was inconvenient.

And to whatever Mensa member made the crack about Edwards "isn't honest enough to take tough questions", you do realize that all of the strawman-in-chief's "town meetings" were invite only events with strictly tow the line conservatives allowed in, right? When he fields honest questions, then you can throw stones from your glass house.

 

[senseamp]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I think Edwards has called a spade a spade---you can't have clearly slanted commentary and still label yourself as a legitimate news channel----you can have it one way or the other but not both.

So that means that MSNBC can no longer be called a news channel? Olberman is about as slanted as they come.

MSNBC isn't really a news channel, IMO. It's all about prisons and crime nowadays.

 

[kage69]

And to whatever Mensa member made the crack about Edwards "isn't honest enough to take tough questions", you do realize that all of the strawman-in-chief's "town meetings" were invite only events with strictly tow the line conservatives allowed in, right? When he fields honest questions, then you can throw stones from your glass house.

Too true, but this is to be expected from those who watched the last presidential debates and thought Bush did just fine! Ugh, remember watching that trainwreck in slo-mo?

Now they're getting uppity about Edwards being selective...when their god boy has required statements of loyalty from invite-only event participants! lol

How do they breathe with all the egg on their faces???

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: kage69

And to whatever Mensa member made the crack about Edwards "isn't honest enough to take tough questions", you do realize that all of the strawman-in-chief's "town meetings" were invite only events with strictly tow the line conservatives allowed in, right? When he fields honest questions, then you can throw stones from your glass house.

Too true, but this is to be expected from those who watched the last presidential debates and thought Bush did just fine! Ugh, remember watching that trainwreck in slo-mo?

Now they're getting uppity about Edwards being selective...when their god boy has required statements of loyalty from invite-only event participants! lol

How do they breathe with all the egg on their faces???

show me a liberal candidate who doesn't do the same. Hillary is famous for staging press conferences. So are you saying only Republicans do this? :confused

 

[Thump553]

Bold and gutsy move. It's time for a honest, frank talk from our candidates. I'm not a fan of Edwards to any lrge extent but this wins him brownie points as far as I'm concerned.

And PJ, Olberman's show is a one hour commentary. Fox News presents itself as "Fair And Balanced" and its bias is consistent and throughout 24/7, both in its commentary shows (like O'Reilly) and its supposed straight news presentations. Fox News is entertaining propoganda for the most part. The only exception I can think of is their recent election night (11/06) when, for once, they acted like a straight news channel-and did a good job at it.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: kage69

And to whatever Mensa member made the crack about Edwards "isn't honest enough to take tough questions", you do realize that all of the strawman-in-chief's "town meetings" were invite only events with strictly tow the line conservatives allowed in, right? When he fields honest questions, then you can throw stones from your glass house.

Too true, but this is to be expected from those who watched the last presidential debates and thought Bush did just fine! Ugh, remember watching that trainwreck in slo-mo?

Now they're getting uppity about Edwards being selective...when their god boy has required statements of loyalty from invite-only event participants! lol

How do they breathe with all the egg on their faces???

show me a liberal candidate who doesn't do the same. Hillary is famous for staging press conferences. So are you saying only Republicans do this? :confused

I can't recall any republicans being arrested for wearing the wrong t-shirt at a Kerry campaign stop.

Nice try with the deflection though.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Democratic Party officials and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid initially touted the partnership with Fox News as an opportunity to reach out to a different bloc of voters.

Fairly foolish decision on Edwards' part. Say what you will about Fox News, but they do reach a fairly large audience and demographic, one that Democrats do not have much luck engaging.

If Edwards was confident in his platform and ideals, he would go into the lion's den ready for a fight. Instead, he is retreating to the safety of the liberal base where he can field softball questions that will serve as a liberal propoganda mouthpiece.

Maybe, just maybe, a politician should strive for opportunities to answer questions and debate in a hostile environment.

No, they seem so to the Right because they repeat the talking points of the administration and consistently have their 'anchors' represent those viewpoints.

Every news anchor and political commentator on the scene has a partisan bias or slant to their reporting.

Online activists and bloggers quickly hailed the decision as a victory in their campaign to urge Nevada Democrats to drop Fox News as a partner. MoveOn.org Civic Action says it has collected more than 260,000 signatures on a petition that calls the cable network a "mouthpiece for the Republican Party, not a legitimate news channel."

Because MoveOn.org is a non partisan political entity...whatever.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I don't think I'll ever understand the accusations about Fox being an extremist, agenda driven mouthpiece of the GOP.

If they are so extremist... and so biased... Why are they #1? (By a long shot) It would seem to me that their overwhelming success in the cable news ratings (IIRC the top five or six shows belong to Fox) would make them more mainstream, more in tune with America than the other guys.

And yeah... Edwards looks a bit like a pansey for ducking this debate. Especially given the reasons he ducked it. He could have just cited a scheduling conflict. Weird.

 

[Pens1566]

Fox's lower screen banner for the Libby verdict was "Libby not guilty of lying to feds". Well, they got it 20% right.

Also, still the only network that scares the public with terra alert status in the crawl every 3 minutes. Even though we don't use the silly color chart anymore, Fox has us at yellow and the airlines at orange.

 

[fskimospy]

How popular a news organization has nothing to do with how accurate they are. There are some interesting books you can read on how since the expansion of media, people choose media that fits in with their world view, not based on accuracy. The other media outlets are all competing for the same audience... Fox news is alone in competing for the conservative audience. This explains their ratings perfectly.

 

[fskimospy]

Thats something else I forgot about. You realize that Murdoch has now openly admitted that his news channel is shilling for Bush right?

 

[cumhail]

Murdoch, himself, made it clear that he intended the network to be conservative, back when he was still working on getting it started. I'll hit Lexis-Nexis, later in the evening, and see if I can find the articles.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I don't think I'll ever understand the accusations about Fox being an extremist, agenda driven mouthpiece of the GOP.

If they are so extremist... and so biased... Why are they #1? (By a long shot) It would seem to me that their overwhelming success in the cable news ratings (IIRC the top five or six shows belong to Fox) would make them more mainstream, more in tune with America than the other guys.

You need to take a statistics class.

 

[manowar821]

The only reason fox news has a fairly large audience is because, dare I say it, their audience base generally isn't very intelligent.

Flame if you like, but it's true.

Frankly, I'm sick of hearing the words "liberal" and "conservative". On one side, you've got the assholes. On the other, you have the complete nut-jobs.

This whole bias mess is pathetic. It shouldn't be difficult to find real news, and news stations and the government should DEFINITELY not take advantage of the less intelligent and trusting citizens. Fair and balanced my ass. The only fair and balanced news I can find these days is on less than popular news WEBSITES.

Of course, on the other hand, it's the citizens faults for being mindless nationalists/imperialists.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: manowar821
The only reason fox news has a fairly large audience is because, dare I say it, their audience base generally isn't very intelligent.

Flame if you like, but it's true.

Frankly, I'm sick of hearing the words "liberal" and "conservative". On one side, you've got the assholes. On the other, you have the complete nut-jobs.

This whole bias mess is pathetic. It shouldn't be difficult to find real news, and news stations and the government should DEFINITELY not take advantage of the less intelligent and trusting citizens. Fair and balanced my ass. The only fair and balanced news I can find these days is on less than popular news WEBSITES.

Of course, on the other hand, it's the citizens faults for being mindless nationalists/imperialists.

I won't flame, I would just like to see some statistics, besides your own obvious bias, as to the intelligence level of viewers who tune into the news on any of the major player networks.

Who do you think could boast the most intelligent viewers?

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I love it! You guys make me :laugh:

"But Fox is #1"

"Yeah, well, BASH BASH BASH BASH..."

:laugh:

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

I won't flame, I would just like to see some statistics, besides your own obvious bias, as to the intelligence level of viewers who tune into the news on any of the major player networks.

Anna Nicole Smith--#1 news story for days on end.

'Nuff said...

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: catnap1972

Originally posted by: moshquerade

I won't flame, I would just like to see some statistics, besides your own obvious bias, as to the intelligence level of viewers who tune into the news on any of the major player networks.

Anna Nicole Smith--#1 news story for days on end.

'Nuff said...

So you are saying you tune in daily? :laugh: