foxconn makes many different components and products. in x86, its rare i open a server that doesnt have a foxconn stamp on something. same goes almost anything else in a data center that i work on.
foxconn makes many different components and products. in x86, its rare i open a server that doesnt have a foxconn stamp on something. same goes almost anything else in a data center that i work on.I remember a long time ago that Foxconn made budget motherboards, I never got one, I saw too many unflattering comments by consumers. I'm not impressed with their latest stuff either.
Bwahahaha, good luck with that.
As a lifelong Wisconsinite -- fuck this.
No, I just find tech firms incredibly hypocritical...dipping their toes into the pool of solving first world problems and social engineering here in America, yet exploiting the workers in their supply chain and feigning ignorance, no different than the industrial oligarchs that preceded them.
Tech firms are capitalists at the core but like to hide behind the warm and fuzzy socialist/progressive label. They have no problem telling everyone in the US how it's important to be diverse but will cozy up to governments that have the worst human rights records.
For some reason Apple comes to mind..................
For some reason Apple comes to mind..................
Apple are one of the worst. Now there is this deliberately slow down older devices without gaining the owners consent schmozzle. Samsung manufactures heavy weapons. What are you going to do?
Of course it's not just apple that turns a blind eye it's the consumer as well.
Workers were jumping off the roofs committing suicide at one of their Chinese plants not many years ago prompting them to install netting around it. Apple didn't seem to care until it became public.For some reason Apple comes to mind..................
Workers were jumping off the roofs committing suicide at one of their Chinese plants not many years ago prompting them to install netting around it. Apple didn't seem to care until it became public.
Foxconn has their hands into all kinds of electronics and they are also the worlds largest manufacturer of contact switches.
Right Foxconn plant contracted to produce Apple products. Most reputable companies inspect their suppliers and ethics violations usually draw their ire if they can receive negative press from the association. Unfortunately that seems to be what it takes to correct these conditions.Wasn't it the Foxconn plant where the workers were jumping? They were making stuff for Apple but it was the Foxconn plant, IIRC.
Edit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...st-at-Apple-manufacturer-Foxconn-factory.html
Not to mention they will be producing LCD screens, which are a commodity with the biggest competition, and most deflation of any goods, and therefore the fastest race to the bottom on costs. The $4B is just a down-payment. Wisconsin taxpayers will have to perpetually compensate FoxConn for any competitive gap it has in manufacturing cost, exchange rate, technology, etc, just to keep this plant from closing.I love the "it's own version of Silicon Valley" idea. ...no, moron--SV is were the innovation happens and Foxconn is where the children are paid nickels to crap out the junk that SV sends them.
I suspect that plant will be highly automated not requiring as many human workers as backers might be hoping for.
I would imagine that managers will place the facility just right to avoid having to hire any former union workers just like Honda did in IN. If it sits on the border then they can enact hiring rules and justify them legally. If I'm honest I wouldn't want former UAW workers in my facility either having worked with them before they are among the laziest people I've ever been around.I wonder if there will be requirements to hire Wisconsin workers? If not, I suspect that Illinois will have a field day getting the benefits without paying a dime.
The party is over for plant wages like that and with global trade I expect for wage equalization to continue as smoke stack jobs continue to evaporate. When I worked in manufacturing an hourly worker could easily make in excess of $100k annually with some overtime but we still had a generous OT scale including weekend pay rates. Even so it was cheaper for the company to just pay OT than it was for them to hire new workers and pay them wages plus benefits.They will just hire some monkeys and pay them peanuts. $53k with benefits is a pipe dream.
I would imagine that managers will place the facility just right to avoid having to hire any former union workers just like Honda did in IN. If it sits on the border then they can enact hiring rules and justify them legally. If I'm honest I wouldn't want former UAW workers in my facility either having worked with them before they are among the laziest people I've ever been around.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB119196377029953821
Yeah, cheap labor means that your products will be as ubiquitous as silicon. If they build a plant here, I don't know how they'll keep labor costs down unless by then the minimum wage will be eliminated in the state, or desperation for jobs that will undercut American dreams, or they'll get tax breaks so great that they'll be paid instead, or...foxconn makes many different components and products. in x86, its rare i open a server that doesnt have a foxconn stamp on something. same goes almost anything else in a data center that i work on.
Automation plain and simple and everyone is doing it everywhere. No wage or benefit costs associated with a robot performing multiple tasks per station along with no sick days, vacation or any of the typical absences apart from a failure.f they build a plant here, I don't know how they'll keep labor costs down unless by then the minimum wage will be eliminated in the state, or desperation for jobs that will undercut American dreams, or they'll get tax breaks so great that they'll be paid instead, or...
Damn robots! I worked on one in school. Stepper motors didn't need very complex code. Our robot had some flat spots in the toothed belt that lifted the arm. We tried to compensate with delayed commands, but the staggered movements were too unpredictable. We gave the robot a sick day. I'm not sure if the very smart professor was giving us a lesson about wounded robots, or if he just hadn't fixed it yet.Automation plain and simple and everyone is doing it everywhere. No wage or benefit costs associated with a robot performing multiple tasks per station along with no sick days, vacation or any of the typical absences apart from a failure.
Damn robots! I worked on one in school. Stepper motors didn't need very complex code. Our robot had some flat spots in the toothed belt that lifted the arm. We tried to compensate with delayed commands, but the staggered movements were too unpredictable. We gave the robot a sick day. I'm not sure if the very smart professor was giving us a lesson about wounded robots, or if he just hadn't fixed it yet.
Yeah, it was a small sort of demo unit I guess for schools. This was 1988, and I haven't kept up with the tech.; my career went down a different road. Great stuff! Thanks!Real robots don't use steppers, they used closed feedback servo drives and motors. A six to eight axis controller has some pretty complicated code to keep those axis in line throughout a move. I imagine the code to keep six to eight PID loops in sync would be pretty darn complicated. It the robot had a stepper on it, it's not much more than a tinker toy.
Yeah, it was a small sort of demo unit I guess for schools. This was 1988, and I haven't kept up with the tech.; my career went down a different road. Great stuff! Thanks!
I wish I could go to school again, and I'm a little worn.Yeah, the speed and complexity of the robot controllers has grown leaps and bounds. Not complex on the outside, complex on the inside. The new controllers ability to integrate vision as well as completely run other machinery - eliminating a separate control system - are quite amazing. A well taught (user program and points) is a thing of beauty to watch, especially the high speed pick and place robots.