News (FoxNews) White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

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Vic

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So when does Trump suspend the Constitution, dissolve Congress, and declare himself king? Any moment now no doubt. And of course, his freedom loving, strict Constitutionalist supporters will rejoice at the return of the monarchy.
 
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IronWing

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Forget anybody getting jailed. For example, I think it would be unfair to jail the EU ambassador for following the chain of command. He's willing to testify but he'd have to sacrifice his job to do it. The demand is unreasonable. I's also unreasonable to put sworn federal officers against each other.
I disagree. If the ambassador defies a Congressional subpoena, jail him. His oath was to support and defend the Constitution, not to obey Trump.
 

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Democrats need to understand that, if they are to proceed with impeachment it will require taking action to start throwing people in jail. And that risks an escalation to potentially even violence. This is the choice that Trump is forcing them into, sooner or later. Unless the intent is to give up, sooner is better.
 

sandorski

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How you hope to settle the issue without the Courts or the Administration I have no idea. Perhaps little blue enforcer monkeys can fly out of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's ass and force everyone in Washington DC to do her bidding? Cross your fingers, maybe it will happen.


As the Investigations continue, Partisanship will become less reliable as a Defense. Trump knows this, which is why he is trying to rush things. You will lose this fight.
 

alien42

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I'd say that we are now at a Constitutional crisis like we have never seen before and we are about to find out if our forefathers were wise enough to forsee such a thing.
 
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Jhhnn

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Democrats need to understand that, if they are to proceed with impeachment it will require taking action to start throwing people in jail. And that risks an escalation to potentially even violence. This is the choice that Trump is forcing them into, sooner or later. Unless the intent is to give up, sooner is better.

Dems already have all the evidence they need. It's against the law & the principles of our democracy to solicit campaign assistance from a foreign govt, let alone strong arming them into doing so. It's undeniably true that Trump has done just that. It's right there in the whistle blower complaint & the confirming transcript from the White house. It's right there in what Giuliani & others have said, as well. If another whistle blower comes forward it's just another nail in the coffin.

[USC02] 52 USC 30121: Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
 
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All in good time. The House majority controls the tempo.
Until it does the Executive says they won't comply with illegitimate and unconstitutional requests. Maybe a vote on the floor of the House along with the writ will clear the way.
 
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Dems already have all the evidence they need. It's against the law & the principles of our democracy to solicit campaign assistance from a foreign govt, let alone strong arming them into doing so. It's undeniably true that Trump has done just that. It's right there in the whistle blower complaint & the confirming transcript from the White house. It's right there in what Giuliani & others have said, as well. If another whistle blower comes forward it's just another nail in the coffin.

[USC02] 52 USC 30121: Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
Except that isn't what happened, but see if that lie will work for you. Tough when the principal witness says it never happened.
 

HomerJS

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Without a floor vote there is no impeachment. There's no such thing as faux impeachment lite. If they have probable cause they should impeach.
There will be a floor vote when it comes time for impeachment. Meanwhile vote not required to have impeachment inquiry. Unless you know something about the Constitution the rest of us don't??
 

Jhhnn

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Except that isn't what happened, but see if that lie will work for you. Tough when the principal witness says it never happened.

Zelensky can't cross Trump or he won't get his missiles or much of anything else. The hostage will say what the hostage taker demands.
 

Vic

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Until it does the Executive says they won't comply with illegitimate and unconstitutional requests. Maybe a vote on the floor of the House along with the writ will clear the way.
Can you explain why Trump would be trying to force this issue except to instigate an overthrow of our Republic? Congress has the votes and the public support to impeach. It is obvious that he intends to use Congress' lawful and completely Constitutional actions in order to stage his own coup.
Because let's face it, it's either that or he's an idiot.
 
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Have you ever considered actually reading the Constitution? Yaknow, instead of constantly repeating talking points spoonfed to you by con artists?

Here: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript
I have my own copy, but thanks. Some items are not covered in the actual Constitution though, for those we have to depend on precedent and rulings in the Courts. Precedent says a vote must be taken on the floor and arrangements must be made with the Minority party in the House. So far those steps haven't been taken.
 
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One problem, your boy already released a summary of his phone call with Ukraine president effectively waiving EP.
What Court made that ruling? And that President said no crime had been committed and he wasn't pressured.
 
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Can you explain why Trump would be trying to force this issue except to instigate an overthrow of our Republic? Congress has the votes and the public support to impeach. It is obvious that he intends to use Congress' lawful and completely Constitutional actions in order to stage his own coup.
Because let's face it, it's either that or he's an idiot.
What high crime is this about ? President Clinton was guilty lying under oath and was impeached, but not removed. What high crime is President Trump guilty of?
Even if the House does vote how would you know which and how many members are actually going to vote for an impeachment until it happens? It then goes to the Senate and requires 67 votes to remove President Trump. Not going to happen unless there's some massive crime I haven't heard about.
 

HomerJS

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What high crime is this about ? President Clinton was guilty lying under oath and was impeached, but not removed. What high crime is President Trump guilty of?
Even if the House does vote how would you know which and how many members are actually going to vote for an impeachment until it happens? It then goes to the Senate and requires 67 votes to remove President Trump. Not going to happen unless there's some massive crime I haven't heard about.
High crimes are crimes against the state. Lying under oath about a blow job is not a crime against the United States

However, suborning foreign policy by extorting an ally for personal gain is.

Arms for dirt.
 
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