frack. Cat at the vet

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Homerboy

Lifer
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I wouldn't expect everyone to be able to put out several thousand bucks, but saying $300 is a limit is ridiculous.

Who said $300 is their limit? Not I. I said I didn't have $1000 minimum to spend on a surgery and was willing to give the cat up if that is what it came down to so his life was spared.

Feel good thread? You went against a vet's recommendations and just got lucky.

Yeah it IS a feel good thread. Everyone else seems to feel good about the end result. Everyone else seemed to understand and respect my situation. Everyone except you.. and it was PREDICTED that you would come in and perform in this thread just as you have.

I did NOT go against a SINGLE THING the Vet recommended. You don't even know what your talking about now. The Vet said that he would need surgery to live, and that if I could not afford it, I could surrender the cat and the surgery would be done to save him. This is something my wife and I, and even my 7yr old daughter understood... everyone except you apparently.

You're just being a dick for being-a-dick's sake.
 

silverpig

Lifer
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Got here a little late. Glad he's made a turn for the better.

I was gonna suggest giving him some prune juice or something. That stuff is like drano.
 

alkemyst

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Who said $300 is their limit? Not I. I said I didn't have $1000 minimum to spend on a surgery and was willing to give the cat up if that is what it came down to so his life was spared.



Yeah it IS a feel good thread. Everyone else seems to feel good about the end result. Everyone else seemed to understand and respect my situation. Everyone except you.. and it was PREDICTED that you would come in and perform in this thread just as you have.

I did NOT go against a SINGLE THING the Vet recommended. You don't even know what your talking about now. The Vet said that he would need surgery to live, and that if I could not afford it, I could surrender the cat and the surgery would be done to save him. This is something my wife and I, and even my 7yr old daughter understood... everyone except you apparently.

You're just being a dick for being-a-dick's sake.

Hardly being a DICK...it also doesn't make you any more right because others agree and want to give you a "good ol' chap" pat on the back. You went against the veternarian's recommendations and got lucky. The veternarian even gave you the option to surrender the pet which is rare. Most will give you euthanasia as the 'cheap' method.

$1000 is not a lot of money in the care of a pet. When people discuss fortunes being spent to save an animal they are usually talking about $5k+, definitely not just $1000.

People think shelther prices for spay/neuters are typical. At most normal veternarians a spay is not a really cheap process.

That said most people here I have doubts on being even able to afford to take care of themselves yet alone another living creature.

Most think a cat belongs outside and the kittens created will just work themselves out.

edit: as a side note many balk at spending $100, 200, 500+ on a pet yet always seem to have game console, full-boat cable/satellite service and regularly go out to see movies.

A quick review shows you plan to see Conan when it comes out and with a family of 4 that's usually about a $50-100 2 hours. Then you mention not only the Wii but also having a 360 and all the games to go along with it. Yet cannot afford $1000 for the pet, sounds like more you not wanting to pay $1000 for the pet rather than being broke?
 
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rudeguy

Lifer
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so kitty is ok?

My old boss had a problem like this. His cat ate one of those Christmas icicle things. You know the long silver thing you hang from the tree? Well he didn't know anything had happened until he saw a piece of shiny stuff hanging out of his cats butt. He's an old school guy....the kind who solves his own problems. So when the cat sat down next to him he put his foot on the string and scared the cat. When the cat jumped up, the problem was solved.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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so kitty is ok?

My old boss had a problem like this. His cat ate one of those Christmas icicle things. You know the long silver thing you hang from the tree? Well he didn't know anything had happened until he saw a piece of shiny stuff hanging out of his cats butt. He's an old school guy....the kind who solves his own problems. So when the cat sat down next to him he put his foot on the string and scared the cat. When the cat jumped up, the problem was solved.

There always seems to be one or two in a crowd that has a story like this.

However, with string and rope unless very short lengths pulling it out especially extremely fast is the worst thing you can do.

The digestive tract and intestines more importantly are not smooth nor straight paths. The danger (and it's very common) is for the string to wrap and knot around a bit or two on it's way through. This then can cause a blockage and if tugged can cut through the organ easily.

Having your 'guts' leak into the body cavity is serious in itself, having a hole in them equally so.

The only safe methods are surgery or if it passes on it's own.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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Hardly being a DICK...it also doesn't make you any more right because others agree and want to give you a "good ol' chap" pat on the back. You went against the veternarian's recommendations and got lucky. The veternarian even gave you the option to surrender the pet which is rare. Most will give you euthanasia as the 'cheap' method.

$1000 is not a lot of money in the care of a pet. When people discuss fortunes being spent to save an animal they are usually talking about $5k+, definitely not just $1000.

People think shelther prices for spay/neuters are typical. At most normal veternarians a spay is not a really cheap process.

That said most people here I have doubts on being even able to afford to take care of themselves yet alone another living creature.

Most think a cat belongs outside and the kittens created will just work themselves out.

edit: as a side note many balk at spending $100, 200, 500+ on a pet yet always seem to have game console, full-boat cable/satellite service and regularly go out to see movies.

A quick review shows you plan to see Conan when it comes out and with a family of 4 that's usually about a $50-100 2 hours. Then you mention not only the Wii but also having a 360 and all the games to go along with it. Yet cannot afford $1000 for the pet, sounds like more you not wanting to pay $1000 for the pet rather than being broke?

Listen DICK. If you're going to do a "quick review" I suggest you get your facts straight.

The Wii and 360 were bought when I was making a VERY lucrative salary. About a 2 years ago I was LAID OFF and was unemployed for ~year. I have PILES of bills to currently catch up on and climb out from. PILES.

As for the movie... yeah I will go see it. I have a nephew that works at a movie theater and gives us many free passes. Not to mention, if you were doing your research, you'd put two and two together and realize I am NOT going to take a 7 year old girl and a 9 year old boy to see Conan... so even then you $100 estimate is jacked up.

Do not judge me and my decisions that I make for my family. If I had the thousand dollars readily accessible do you HONESTLY think I would not have spent it on the cat?

Don't even fucking attempt to pass judgment on me when you don't even know me or my situation. My wife and kids cried for 24hrs over this. If you think I was simply being cheap and didn't want to spend the money on the cat you're fucking stupid.

Not to mention I never, EVER went against what the doctor prescribed for the cat. She recommended the sedation to cut the string out from around the tongue and to attempt to pull as much of it out as possible. We did that. Since the string was still in there, and the intestines compacted, she recommended that we could A) do the surgery right there and then, or B) take him home for 24hrs and see if it passed naturally, and if not, then bring him back and have the surgery (at which point we'd have to either choose to pay for the surgery, or surrender him so he could have the surgery). Please tell me where I did not do what the Vet suggested... or are you too busy attempting to pass judgment again?
 
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Homerboy

Lifer
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so kitty is ok?

My old boss had a problem like this. His cat ate one of those Christmas icicle things. You know the long silver thing you hang from the tree? Well he didn't know anything had happened until he saw a piece of shiny stuff hanging out of his cats butt. He's an old school guy....the kind who solves his own problems. So when the cat sat down next to him he put his foot on the string and scared the cat. When the cat jumped up, the problem was solved.

seems 100% A-OK now. He slept in bed with us last night (which is odd as he's normally in the kid's room). Been eating like a horse like he normally does. Crapping on schedule. Playing etc.

Edit: Thanks for the "good ol chap" pay on the back.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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Got here a little late. Glad he's made a turn for the better.

I was gonna suggest giving him some prune juice or something. That stuff is like drano.


LOL that was my comment/suggestion too, to the Vet. "Isn't there a laxative or something we can use to loosen things up?!?!" But obviously, when you think about it, that wasn't the real problem
 

alkemyst

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Listen DICK. If you're going to do a "quick review" I suggest you get your facts straight.

The Wii and 360 were bought when I was making a VERY lucrative salary. About a 2 years ago I was LAID OFF and was unemployed for ~year. I have PILES of bills to currently catch up on and climb out from. PILES.

As for the movie... yeah I will go see it. I have a nephew that works at a movie theater and gives us many free passes. Not to mention, if you were doing your research, you'd put two and two together and realize I am NOT going to take a 7 year old girl and a 9 year old boy to see Conan... so even then you $100 estimate is jacked up.

Do not judge me and my decisions that I make for my family. If I had the thousand dollars readily accessible do you HONESTLY think I would not have spent it on the cat?

Don't even fucking attempt to pass judgment on me when you don't even know me or my situation. My wife and kids cried for 24hrs over this. If you think I was simply being cheap and didn't want to spend the money on the cat you're fucking stupid.

Not to mention I never, EVER went against what the doctor prescribed for the cat. She recommended the sedation to cut the string out from around the tongue and to attempt to pull as much of it out as possible. We did that. Since the string was still in there, and the intestines compacted, she recommended that we could A) do the surgery right there and then, or B) take him home for 24hrs and see if it passed naturally, and if not, then bring him back and have the surgery (at which point we'd have to either choose to pay for the surgery, or surrender him so he could have the surgery). Please tell me where I did not do what the Vet suggested... or are you too busy attempting to pass judgment again?

You could sell your toys, that's what most responsible people would do anyway.

You now clarified though that the vet recommended waiting 24 hours as well.

I seriously do not believe they'd have recommended instant surgery unless there was more to the story.

You are simply promoting a bias that all vets want to do is make a quick buck.

Take a chill pill.
 

rockyct

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Jun 23, 2001
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You could sell your toys, that's what most responsible people would do anyway.

You now clarified though that the vet recommended waiting 24 hours as well.

I seriously do not believe they'd have recommended instant surgery unless there was more to the story.

You are simply promoting a bias that all vets want to do is make a quick buck.

Take a chill pill.
I doubt a quick sell of his xbox and games would generate even close to $1000, maybe $200-250. Plus, then you're, in effect, punishing your kids for being laid off. We're not talking sports cars or massive hobbies. Selling your xbox isn't going to retire your debts. Of course, it'd be stupid to continue to buy $60 games for it, but there's no indication that was happening.

Right. We understand and totally agree with that.
I'm not confident in it passing (I tend to be a half-empty guy), but it is what it is.

It will be a long 24 hours I'm sure... especially with the kids. Ugh.
While not being exactly clear, he did specifically mention the next 24 hours in the first few posts. I don't think we can be hard on him for being a little unclear considering the amount of stress he was under at the time.

You're trying to paint the picture of an irresponsible pet owner that falls in line with your biases...and then you criticize him for suggestion he's continuing a bias towards vets. Plus, he was really quite even handed when it came to feelings about the vet and in fact, he said how awesome and concerned they were. I see no clear evidence that he was suggesting they were trying to make a quick buck off of him.

Face it. You tried to fit him into a stereotype, and it failed. In the process of doing that you insulted his character, spending habits, and his sincerity towards being a responsible pet owner. Your personal attack completely merited the response he gave you.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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LOL that was my comment/suggestion too, to the Vet. "Isn't there a laxative or something we can use to loosen things up?!?!" But obviously, when you think about it, that wasn't the real problem

Yeah, well sometimes if something is stuck, a little lube makes it work a lot better.

Is he all back to normal now?
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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seems 100% A-OK now. He slept in bed with us last night (which is odd as he's normally in the kid's room). Been eating like a horse like he normally does. Crapping on schedule. Playing etc.

Edit: Thanks for the "good ol chap" pay on the back.

Stuff happens. Some people on here feel the need to be douche nozzles and insult you when things go wrong.

Alky is just a flaming dick stain
 

Perknose

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Stuff happens. Some people on here feel the need to be douche nozzles and insult you when things go wrong.

Alky is just a flaming dick stain

Alky has graciously agreed not to post again in this thread, so I'm asking, going forward in this thread, that everyone else refrain from taking further shots at him.

Let's all just get back to the good news of Rico's recovery, and leave it at that.

Perknose
Forum Director
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Alky has graciously agreed not to post again in this thread, so I'm asking, going forward in this thread, that everyone else refrain from taking further shots at him.

Let's all just get back to the good news of Rico's recovery, and leave it at that.

Perknose
Forum Director

Can we rename the cat Carlos and get the OP one of those cool baby holsters?

NOT AT THE TABLE CARLOS!!!!!
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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LOL this thread turned awesome. Thanks everyone.

Kitty is 100% it seems. I think everything is past us.
(though now we gotta figure out what these balding spots are....)
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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Did he ever get over his aversion to going upstairs?

Yeap. He slept in bed with me all last night (which is a bit different admittedly). And he woke me up at 4:30 this morning (which, sadly, is par for the course).

Right now? Mid afternoon cat-nap dreaming about something it seems:

 

Azraele

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He looks content.

Balding can have any number of causes, fleas, a fungal/skin infection, over grooming/rubbing etc. Do the spots seem to bother him at all? Any redness, flakes, anything unusual?
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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He looks content.

Balding can have any number of causes, fleas, a fungal/skin infection, over grooming/rubbing etc. Do the spots seem to bother him at all? Any redness, flakes, anything unusual?

Nope he doesn't mind them at all.
We took him in 6 months ago when they became persistant and the Vet chauled it up to "over grooming". Honestly though, I mean he grooms himself like any normal cat would... never "over grooms" unless he's doing it when we are not around or at night or something (maybe loneliness?) They checked for fleas, infection, rash etc... nothing. They are in the exact same spots on both hips. So it does seem as if it may be grooming...???
 

rockyct

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Maybe consider a change in food.

Not to drag the whole grocery store vs. Science Diet vs. natural food debate in, but sometimes a gradual change to a different food may help that. Back when Iams was generally thought of as a good pet food (this was in the 90's), we switched our cat from Fancy Feast to Iams and a thin patch of fur on his back filled back in. His coat became a lot nicer in general.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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Maybe consider a change in food.

Not to drag the whole grocery store vs. Science Diet vs. natural food debate in, but sometimes a gradual change to a different food may help that. Back when Iams was generally thought of as a good pet food (this was in the 90's), we switched our cat from Fancy Feast to Iams and a thin patch of fur on his back filled back in. His coat became a lot nicer in general.

We've thought of that and have done Iams, Science diet and a dozen other brands.
 

rudeguy

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this is my fat cat




she still tries to lay on the cable box, even though she is twice as big as the box

 
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