France bans "paying for sex"

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SP33Demon

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On the face of it, the law doesn't sound like a good idea IMO, however:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35982929



Assuming for a moment that Maud Olivier didn't pull this stat out of her ass, consider that if 85% of any group of people were directly involved in illegality of a particular type, wouldn't most people want something fairly heavy-handed done about it (and perhaps rightly so)?

However, I'm quite skeptical about that statistic because if a lawmaker *knows* that an exact number of people are directly involved in an illegal activity, then surely it also follows that all of that number have been identified and with sufficient evidence to put a stop to all of those operations (or at least severely impede them). If they knew all that, then there would be some massive police raids, and instead of penalising customers of the oldest profession (which does not directly target the problem, if anything it makes the plight of those being trafficked / enslaved worse as there is no money coming in), they could score a massive hit against what apparently is an extremely serious problem, which would likely make crime figures in France plummet for years to come (IMO it's reasonable to assume that if one's career is as morally bankrupt as trafficking/slavery, then they're probably doing other illegal stuff as well).

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These two posts have completely convinced me that your level of delusion is so great that you're not worth spending any more of my time ever discussing anything with you. That other thread where you started bragging about your high IQ was a pretty obvious warning sign, but this... wow.

Christ dude, just as a side note, if you knew anything more than a biased cereal-packet explanation of feminism, you'd know that some people who describe themselves as feminists are against prostitution (as they feel it objectifies/degrades women, etc), and there are other self-described feminists who are totally fine with prostitution (ie. "their body, their choice"). That point is just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes, the 85% stat is bogus. I'd love to see how that stat is derived.

Uhh, we've already discussed the fact that feminists cannot even agree on prostitution in this thread, try to keep up. Read.
 

SP33Demon

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It's pretty much kicking a dead, beaten and decaying corpse of a horse, but I thought I'd just take issue with SpeeDo 'ere, again; lad seems to think that feminists are some sort of concentrated group, akin to a political party.


From Oxford Dictionaries:

Feminist:


Feminism:


It's a contextual label, if anything. But it certainly isn't some man-hating organization, hell-bent on entrapping men in prison.


I'd get all righteous, but the other posters have covered the insanity and bizarre ego-belligerence, so...Eh.
We're pretty well aware what feminism is, but thanks for the definition champ! :biggrin:

If by insanity you mean normal levels of test, then yes I'm insane in your reality. In my reality, many of you with low T are chumps who could never get laid anyway which is why you're here.
 

Darwin333

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Actually I'm married. Nice try, troll.

So? Lots of people that purvey attractive poon from prostitutes are married. Or do you mean that your wife only loans you your balls for very special occasions and keeps them in her purse the rest of the time which doesn't give you the opportunity?
 

brycejones

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So? Lots of people that purvey attractive poon from prostitutes are married. Or do you mean that your wife only loans you your balls for very special occasions and keeps them in her purse the rest of the time which doesn't give you the opportunity?

Are you kidding? He never has sex with his wife. She needs a real man which he has to get for her. Its why he is so obsessed with claiming to be an "alpha" male and cuck relationships.

This forum is his outlet to be the man he isn't in the real world.
 

Perknose

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The unease, for want of a better word, with which I confront my impulse to slam Speedy -- talk about shooting fish in a barrel -- has been eloquently covered by more than one other poster, to wit:

It's pretty much kicking a dead, beaten and decaying corpse of a horse, but I thought I'd just take issue with SpeeDo 'ere, again; lad seems to think that feminists are some sort of concentrated group, akin to a political party.

[..]

I'd get all righteous, but the other posters have covered the insanity and bizarre ego-belligerence, so...Eh.


These two posts have completely convinced me that your level of delusion is so great that you're not worth spending any more of my time ever discussing anything with you. That other thread where you started bragging about your high IQ was a pretty obvious warning sign, but this... wow.

Christ dude, just as a side note, if you knew anything more than a biased cereal-packet explanation of feminism...

Hell, I hesitate to even engage him anymore. He went off on me privately for this.

Talk about a WHOOSH moment! I stayed calm, and even exchanged banter about Nova's victory in the NCAA (we're both sports fans), but did calmly warn him that I would be schooling him in that thread for all that he seemingly didn't know, linguistically.

I never did. What's the point? Like his hero Trump, Speedy will never back down or acknowledge any countervailing point, even dead nuts factual ones, so why step into that swampy morass of sexual and political dysfunction, underpinned and fueled by basic factual ignorance? You'll just end up with muck up to your elbows, and nothing will ever get resolved.

Still, Hey! The S. Gonzalez/DJ Trumpy Trump train rolls on, and because this is a matter for all of us as citizens of our fair republic, I've simply got to share this clip of The Donald, as, sadly, it sounds to me like it could be Sp33 talking:

I call this creepy, crazy clip of sleaze, The Inspirational Boobs of the Statue of Liberty, out of some atavistic need to deflect from the fact that this ASSHOLE, who wants to be our President, is talking about his own one year old daughter.
 

rommelrommel

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Weed is not legal here. Not even decriminalized. The police are more likely to turn a blind eye to personal use in some cities and parts of the country.

Prosititution is not legal in the way you think it is either. The Supreme Court of Canada tossed out some of the old laws. The government had a year or so to rewrite the laws but wrote ones even worse than the originals. Those will probably be tossed out too. For most purposes, engaging in prostitution is still going to run afoul of several laws.

Given that it's part of your argument I thought you might care to have some correct facts, guess not.
 

emperus

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More like low testosterone posters who don't want to fuck good looking women (even if prostitutes). We get it, you sit on a computer all day so your BMI is through the roof and many of you have low test. Go out to a gym and stop eating so dam much and maybe your chemicals will return back to normal. :biggrin: Be a man, not a feminist. Banning sex for most of you guys should upset you.

What does this article have to do with the ability to "f_ck" good looking woman? I only have sex with good looking women and I've never paid for a prostitute.

And fyi, it's not banning sex. It's banning paying for sex. The fact that you don't see the difference and this upsets you so much should tell you something.
 

MajinCry

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We're pretty well aware what feminism is, but thanks for the definition champ! :biggrin:

If by insanity you mean normal levels of test, then yes I'm insane in your reality. In my reality, many of you with low T are chumps who could never get laid anyway which is why you're here.

 

mikeymikec

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sounds like the brown bag law. Now prostitution will just exist but it will be called escort service. The interactions will be called dates.

That's the other crazy facet of banning it, you force it underground. That doesn't seem like the best method to counter trafficking/slavery (ie. forcing it into the shadows which makes it more difficult to detect).
 
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thraashman

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It's becoming more and more difficult to figure out how to interact with and react to SP33Demon. He's become such a caricature, it's like some odd combination of Yosemite Sam and Wile E. Coyote if it were the more stupid clone of Eric Cartman. Like you can't be a real person, man. Real people don't act like you and exist in modern society.
 

KMFJD

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It's becoming more and more difficult to figure out how to interact with and react to SP33Demon. He's become such a caricature, it's like some odd combination of Yosemite Sam and Wile E. Coyote if it were the more stupid clone of Eric Cartman. Like you can't be a real person, man. Real people don't act like you and exist in modern society.
+1
 

Spungo

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lol whores, lol johns

Get a real job!

Prostitution is a real job. I guess I should say it was a real job. Now those beautiful women need to stop getting paid $200/h for sex and start working $10/h at McDonalds. Good job, feminists. The left's war on women continues. They did a similar attack on women in Germany. How? Let in tons of female immigrants from eastern bloc countries who have nothing to offer but their bodies. As anyone with a grade 3 understanding of economics could predict, letting tons of foreign prostitutes into the country crashed the market. $100 for sex? Nope, more like $10. It's similar to letting tons of Mexicans into the country then acting surprised when unskilled labor crashes in value.


Ignoring his crazy posts (most of which I didn't bother reading) there are examples that legal prostitution results in lower rates of certain violent crimes and STDs
That's the point. Feminists want to ban prostitution because they hate prostitutes. They don't want to see prostitutes protected by laws and regulations. As far as feminists are concerned, the only good prostitute is a dead prostitute. Feminists look at famous murder cases like Jack the Ripper and say that's the path forward. Feminists are not stupid. They're just evil. They fully understand that making something illegal makes it far more dangerous. This is why the drug dealer on the corner might get stabbed during a deal, but it's extremely rare for a licensed pharmacist to get stabbed in a store even though both are selling the exact same oxycontin pills.

Hatred of women --> make laws banning things women do.
 

1prophet

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What does this article have to do with the ability to "f_ck" good looking woman? I only have sex with good looking women and I've never paid for a prostitute.

And fyi, it's not banning sex. It's banning paying for sex. The fact that you don't see the difference and this upsets you so much should tell you something.

Grab a camera, get a multi passenger vehicle and call it the Bang-Bus, find some some young good looking females, make sure she is over the age of consent and have her sign a contract that she is, pay her to have sex with you, post the videos online and charge for viewing and make even more money.

And we call that prosti-----------------oops I mean Art.
 
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Grab a camera, get a multi passenger vehicle and call it the Bang-Bus, find some some young good looking females, make sure she is over the age of consent and have her sign a contract that she is, pay her to have sex with you, post the videos online and charge for viewing and make even more money.

And we call that prosti-----------------oops I mean Art.

Pornography is the word you're looking for.
 

Spungo

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Uh, Spungo, you may want to take your meds.
As always, I invite people to prove me wrong. Show me any evidence at all that feminists don't hate women. I can probably make a better case that the Taliban doesn't hate women.

Penn & Teller did at least 2 episodes where feminists were the ones attacking women. Prostitution was the first one. The second one was about cheerleading. It was feminists who did not want cheerleading to be recognized as a sport, which means it is exempt from certain safety standards. Feminists don't attack cheerleading because it's done by men. They attack it because it's done by women. Feminists absolutely hate women. Anything even remotely feminine must be destroyed by feminists. Cheerleading? Bad. Sex for money? Bad. Wearing a dress? Bad. Baking a cake? Bad. Performing oral sex on a man? Bad. Having any sex at all? Bad. Feminists even hate women who choose to stay home to raise children. How dare women love their children! They are enemies of feminism! Attack them!
 

MajinCry

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As always, I invite people to prove me wrong. Show me any evidence at all that feminists don't hate women. I can probably make a better case that the Taliban doesn't hate women.

Penn & Teller did at least 2 episodes where feminists were the ones attacking women. Prostitution was the first one. The second one was about cheerleading. It was feminists who did not want cheerleading to be recognized as a sport, which means it is exempt from certain safety standards. Feminists don't attack cheerleading because it's done by men. They attack it because it's done by women. Feminists absolutely hate women. Anything even remotely feminine must be destroyed by feminists. Cheerleading? Bad. Sex for money? Bad. Wearing a dress? Bad. Baking a cake? Bad. Performing oral sex on a man? Bad. Having any sex at all? Bad. Feminists even hate women who choose to stay home to raise children. How dare women love their children! They are enemies of feminism! Attack them!

As I showed previously in response to SP33, feminists are people that hold the idea that men and women should be equal; that's it.

You seem to hold the same view as SP33, that feminism is something akin to a political party, assuming that they're some organized body attempting to punish men and whatnot.

It's absurd. The way you condemn people who fall under the term of feminist, would be like saying: there are police men that have attacked innocent civilians, therefore, the police want to kill us all.

Come on, man.
 

flexy

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This law is INDEED fucking stupid since it now allows "solicitation", yet punishes paying for sex.

In other words, if a prostitute stands on the street offering a [BEEP] and [BEEP] with a nice [BEEP] for $50, this is totally ok.

Hey, they can even get government assistance and paid living/rent "to get out of prostitution" as I just read on the news.

So YES this is femi-nazi/stupid/feminist and only a really stupid feminazi "feminist" (and I mean this in the negative sense) could even come up with a law like this.
 

Spungo

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You seem to hold the same view as SP33, that feminism is something akin to a political party, assuming that they're some organized body attempting to punish men and whatnot.
They're not an official party, but they do have overwhelming political power. Every attempt to reform things like child support and alimony are quickly scrapped when the hive mind hears of it. Up in Canada, the pope of feminism declared that half of his cabinet ministers will be women, regardless of their qualifications or experience. How is that any different from the Taliban declaring that women should not be allowed to attend school? It's all about treating people differently based on their sex, race, or religion. My people had to deal with this bullshit in Germany. It was decided, in the name of "fairness" obviously, that too many Jews were in powerful government positions. Did they do anything wrong? Nope, they're just Jewish, therefore they need to be removed. It's the same nonsense every time, and idiots fall for it every time. Marxism is about class struggle. Feminism is about gender struggle. Intersectional feminism is about race and gender because feminists are running out of stats to lie about. In America, as much as 85% of household finances and consumer purchases are controlled by women, so the only way to continue claiming victim status is to "intersect" the movement with racial struggle. Black people are still poor, so feminists try to lump the two together. That way they can say "women and blacks are only ____" and the statement is true because black people are still the underdogs whereas women are not. It's hard to claim to be a victim when every objective measure says men have it worse. That includes victims of violent crime, suicide, workplace deaths, education level, length of prison sentences, life expectancy, etc.

Feminism could more accurately be described as Marxism with breasts. Any time feminists are forced to pick between gender and political ideology, they will pick political ideology. Bill Maher called Ann Coulter a wise and beautiful woman. Where was the feminist outrage? It didn't happen because Bill is a socialist, so they support him. Donald Trump can make a comment saying that he likes beautiful women, and feminists start foaming at the mouth. It's not because Trump is anti woman. It's because he's anti socialism. That is why they hate Trump but don't hate Bill Maher.



It's absurd. The way you condemn people who fall under the term of feminist, would be like saying: there are police men that have attacked innocent civilians, therefore, the police want to kill us all.
What if 100% of the people wanting to kill us self-identified as police? Would I then be justified in not trusting them?
 

Exophase

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Bill Maher called Ann Coulter a wise and beautiful woman. Where was the feminist outrage? It didn't happen because Bill is a socialist, so they support him.

They sure don't like him now that they think he's an Islamophobic racist. Excusing that comment may have had more to do with who was on the receiving end of it.
 
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