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Eli

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Originally posted by: Aftermath
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
if your buying the car to get good fuel mileage,
you do NOT want an Automatic.
Modern automatic transmissions get 99% of the milage manuals do.

This isn't the 70s.

Doesn't it depend a lot on how you drive it though? My wife and I both drive stick and we get decently above our rated fuel economy because we drive with intent on saving gas. According to fueleconomy.gov, my I4 Accord with 80k miles is rated at 25/31 and her I4 Neon with 50k at 28/35. I'm getting about 35mpg, and she usually gets about 38mpg. That's just in town driving to work and the grocery store. I won't have the chance to get my Accord out on the highway and see what kind of fuel economy I get until November.

Of course I understand that todays automatic/manual transmissions are much more easily comparable as far as fuel economy goes, since we're no longer talking about something like a 5 speed manual compared to a 3 speed auto with no overdrive and huge parasitic power loss. I'm just saying that it's been my experience that if you're driving a stick with fuel economy in mind, automatics still can't quite keep up in the same regard.
It does matter how you drive it yes, but my statement was based on an "All else being equal" assumption.

Same car, same driving habbits.. Just different transmissions.

You can drive like a granny with an automatic too, and it should net about the same results.

It does depend on your driving conditions though. At highway speeds, they're virtually the same. If you do a lot of city driving, the manual will gain some ground.
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: radioouman
Canadian Echo is different from the US Echo...
try http://www.toyota.ca

Anyway, I'd just back out of the deal if I were you. Wait until a good deal comes around on a 2006 Echo.

WOW i knew the echo sedan was supposed to be good on fuel,but
Wow.

FUEL ECONOMY L/100 Km (mpg)

Fuel Consumption Rating

City/Highway

6.7/5.2 (42/54) - 5-Speed Manual
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7.1/5.5 (40/51) - 4-Speed Automatic
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imperial gallons.
 

packmule

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By Law here in GA and I am sure most other states you have the right to back out of a contract for an automobile for 48 hours after the contract has been signed. The way the dealership kept telling him to call back tomorow seems to me they just wanted to get past the 48 hour cooling of period. The best thing to do would have been to cancle the deal immediatley or ask for the owner of the dealership and explain what has happened and how you feel that the dealership was just trying to get this sale done.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: packmule
By Law here in GA and I am sure most other states you have the right to back out of a contract for an automobile for 48 hours after the contract has been signed. The way the dealership kept telling him to call back tomorow seems to me they just wanted to get past the 48 hour cooling of period. The best thing to do would have been to cancle the deal immediatley or ask for the owner of the dealership and explain what has happened and how you feel that the dealership was just trying to get this sale done.

Wrong:

http://www.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,5426814_39039081_39477231,00.html
 
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