Freddie Gray dies a week after being injured during arrest

[xBiffx]

It is possible there are other injuries. But the injury to his spinal cord is what everybody is focusing on because it lead to his coma and death.

The one news conference I did manage to catch indicated the autopsy showed no other injuries. They were clear that he didn't have any broken limbs either, as had been alleged I guess (video). Granted, the person behind the podium could have been talking out of their ass or embellishing the truth in an attempt to calm the mob. Guess we will see.

 

[Knowing]

Rumor has it that he had back surgery as a result of an accident a week before the arrest.

If this rumor is true, there could be a plausible explanation for aggravating this injury in police custody. If it is true, and the cops do escape unscathed who will be the first to argue that the police should treat everyone they arrest as an invalid who should be in traction?

 

[zephyrprime]

The thing I find strange about the video is he looks like he's already having trouble walking before they put him in the van. Its as if the injury happened before the ride. He could be going limp to resist arrest, but I found it strange none-the-less.

The full report will come out tomorrow, so we should know more on the extent of his injury and how the police say it happened.

He was living off a settlement for lead poisoning that he got from lead paint as a child. Who knows, he may have had neurological problems.

Here's my take on what happened. Dude is already partially incapacitated for uncertain reasons even before he was taken into the van. Maybe it was the taser he was hit with before or maybe he has medical problems. The cops interpret his partial paralysis as him resisting arrest. They give him a "rough ride" which is against policy but happens a lot because we all know that sometimes REAL policy is different than legal policy. He is handcuffed and already partially paralyzed so he was unable to brace himself and probably hit his head hard during the rough ride which results in him have a 70% severed spinal cord.

In any event, the fault is with the cops. Their practice of giving people rough rides has caused injury before and now they have real blood on their hands. The cops are guilty of involuntary manslaughter in my opinion.

 

[Subyman]

I think the unknown is what happened before the video, at least as far as I can tell. Did they slam him to the ground? I'm unsure. Hopefully the report will clear up some of these issues.

 

[Subyman]

Rumor has it that he had back surgery as a result of an accident a week before the arrest.

If this rumor is true, there could be a plausible explanation for aggravating this injury in police custody. If it is true, and the cops do escape unscathed who will be the first to argue that the police should treat everyone they arrest as an invalid who should be in traction?

This is very interesting. I have a family friend that had a car accident several years ago. They performed surgery, but he's kept injuring it doing normal things. It is to the point where he may be wheel chair bound the rest of his life. If Freddie did have surgery, then that could very well be the problem. It makes sense that a simple rough arrest could have paralyzed him and the rough ride would have killed him.

 

[soundforbjt]

Rumor has it that he had back surgery as a result of an accident a week before the arrest.

If this rumor is true, there could be a plausible explanation for aggravating this injury in police custody. If it is true, and the cops do escape unscathed who will be the first to argue that the police should treat everyone they arrest as an invalid who should be in traction?

If that rumor is true, you'd think they would have found it during the autopsy. I saw the "rumor" going around facebook yesterday.

 

[Linux23]

so, from the media today, Thug is the new word for the N***** word. Love how the word just keeps evolving from generation to generation.

 

[Knowing]

They've been working on that for some time. I don't see the value in trying to insulate people from sanctions for things that they did. Odder still is that it comes from the same political spectrum as 'language policing.'

 

[Linux23]

yeah but now Obama is now saying it.

 

[Knowing]

"Thug" or that "Thug is racist?"

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Yeah... everyone who is arrested is "innocent". Good try though. News flash, paddy wagons have multiple cameras on them. Do you think there are seat belts in all wagons, seriously?

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

You have proof that these people were already convicted of a crime by the court system and were serving time when handcuffed and abused?

I didn't think so.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I'm way, way late to the original story here. Sorry about that in advance. I really wasn't paying attention until the city of Baltimore blew up.

Anyways, what was the cause of death of Mr. Gray? I went looking for a video of the police beating and near as I can tell all there is, is a video of them dragging him to the police van. I saw where he was denied or I guess ignored when he asked for medical assistance. Surely the cops got punished for that, no? All I could find was he had a severed spinal cord but other than that, no other injuries. WTF, how does that happen without any other injuries? Other than that, what am I missing on this story?

I was thinking that there was a cut and dried video that showed a Rodney King style beating when I started seeing the city in flames on the news. What gives?

He also had a crushed larynx.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Rumor has it that he had back surgery as a result of an accident a week before the arrest.

If this rumor is true, there could be a plausible explanation for aggravating this injury in police custody. If it is true, and the cops do escape unscathed who will be the first to argue that the police should treat everyone they arrest as an invalid who should be in traction?

It's false...someone is making shit up to make the cops look better and give them an excuse.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-gray-settlement-20150429-story.html

Freepers have to go try some other way to defend the cops, they had a story about the alleged surgery, but its gone now.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Rumor has it that he had back surgery as a result of an accident a week before the arrest.

If this rumor is true, there could be a plausible explanation for aggravating this injury in police custody. If it is true, and the cops do escape unscathed who will be the first to argue that the police should treat everyone they arrest as an invalid who should be in traction?

This bullshit cropped up all over the right wing side of the interwebs in the past day or so. So bad for them, it's completely untrue:

"Online reports are swirling that Freddie Gray had spinal surgery shortly before he died in police custody, and had collected a payout in a settlement from a car accident. Those reports — which raise questions about the injury that led to his death in April 19— point to Howard County court records as proof.
But court records examined Wednesday by The Baltimore Sun show the case had nothing to do with a car accident or a spine injury. Instead, they are connected to a lawsuit alleging that Gray and his sister were injured by exposure to lead paint.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-gray-settlement-20150429-story.html

To bad this attempt to demonize Gray won't blow back on the scum that feel the need to do this kind of crap.

 

[xBiffx]

He also had a crushed larynx.

Hadn't seen that, thanks.

 

[Linux23]

Hadn't seen that, thanks.

He crushed his own larynx on one of the officers boot.

 

[ch33zw1z]

He crushed his own larynx on one of the officers boot.

He should've watched where he was going, those boots don't just jump out at you.

 

[Knowing]

Just found out about the lead paint recently myself. I'm somewhat disturbed by the fact that his name is Freddie and his sister's name is Fredrica (sp).

 

[SheHateMe]

He should've watched where he was going, those boots don't just jump out at you.

Everyone's worried about his injuries, but the real question is why did he run! ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[JSt0rm]

Everyone's worried about his injuries, but the real question is why did he run! ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Honestly black people need to treat cops like they would a wild bear.

 

[Ns1]

^^

i love that poster and sent it to all my at risk friends.

 

[Linux23]

Oh man now the protests started in NYC union square.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Everyone's worried about his injuries, but the real question is why did he run! ¯\_(&#12484_/¯

He knows something us armchair commando's do not, how shit really works.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Rumor has it that he had back surgery as a result of an accident a week before the arrest.

If this rumor is true, there could be a plausible explanation for aggravating this injury in police custody. If it is true, and the cops do escape unscathed who will be the first to argue that the police should treat everyone they arrest as an invalid who should be in traction?

All the more reason why EVERYONE SHOULD BE BUCKLED IN.

 

[SheHateMe]

All the more reason why EVERYONE SHOULD BE BUCKLED IN.

That previous back injury angle was already debunked.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-gray-settlement-20150429-story.html