Freddie Gray dies a week after being injured during arrest

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SheHateMe

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"Fuck the police coming straight from the underground
A young n***a got it bad cause I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority
Fuck that shit, cause I ain't the one
For a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun
To be beating on, and throwing in jail
We can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell"
 

Darwin333

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Wow, future psychopath cop or what? That's just disgusting.

One of these days a cop will go to kill someone's dog and the owner will shoot the cop, to defend the dog.

I have a GSD, he's my best buddy and is a family member of mine and my children. I would use any and all force required to ensure his safety so long as he is "behaving" which he always does. That dog reacted to his owner get snatched which is perfectly normal. The pussies didn't have to shoot the fuck out of him though, at least not at that point. If a cop can not, with all their gear, training, flashbangs, batons, tazers, etc... handle a dog who has not bitten anyone before putting half a dozen in it then they are flat out pussies. If that was my dog I would have serious issues with that cop when I got out of jail for "recording the police when they might be attempting to do some illegal shit".

Funny enough, if one of their dogs is actively biting the fuck out of you and you kill it, in most states, you are charged with murder of a police officer (as in a human being). On the other hand when a police shoot a dog, maybe a report is written up because they discharged their weapons?
 

Darwin333

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In these instances why aren't cops isolated and stories immediately taken? Closer to the actual incident likely more accurate information obtained.

Their unions negotiate "contracts" that state the officers have 48-72 hours to give any report about a use of force incident. In some PD's they have as much as 5 days to get their stories straight.

Check out what Dallas PD just did:

Any Dallas officer involved in a police shooting — whether the officer fired a weapon or witnessed the gunfire — will now have the right to remain silent for 72 hours under a new department policy.

And even before they give a statement about the shooting, the officers can watch any available video before they give a statement.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metr...s-a-police-shooting-investigations-policy.ece
 

soundforbjt

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Those on the right that love busting unions so much are eerily silent when it comes to police unions...
 

werepossum

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with pay.
Hmmm . . . I can't help thinking there's a word for that.

Oh yeah. Vacation.

the cops were in fear of their life so they had to use the right amount of force to stop the perp.
He was running away right at me!

From same article. Cops arrest man for filming them and then shoot dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhHm7Tujca4&feature=player_embedded
Hey, that dog was clearly reaching for a weapon!

Needs to be a federal law that anyone arrested with any force goes immediately to the emergency room to be checked out, on pain of imprisonment and discharge. I really have no objection to them tackling someone who runs when he sees a cop - that's certainly suspicious behavior - but there is no excuse for not providing medical attention. And personally, I have a hard time imagining any appropriate police behavior resulting in the listed injuries (assuming they are correct.)
 

Humpy

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I really have no objection to them tackling someone who runs when he sees a cop...

You don't?

How is "tackling" defined?

How is "runs" defined?

How is "sees" defined?

You essentially want to give the police the power to attack anyone who appears to look in their direction and then makes any further movement. And that's not even an extreme scenario.
 

werepossum

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You don't?

How is "tackling" defined?

How is "runs" defined?

How is "sees" defined?

You essentially want to give the police the power to attack anyone who appears to look in their direction and then makes any further movement. And that's not even an extreme scenario.
lol Okay . . .

From past experience I know that when anyone needs simple terms defined, I'm wasting my time from that point on. Feel free to hate 'em po po.
 

master_shake_

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Their unions negotiate "contracts" that state the officers have 48-72 hours to give any report about a use of force incident. In some PD's they have as much as 5 days to get their stories straight.

Check out what Dallas PD just did:
Any Dallas officer involved in a police shooting — whether the officer fired a weapon or witnessed the gunfire — will now have the right to remain silent for 72 hours under a new department policy.

And even before they give a statement about the shooting, the officers can watch any available video before they give a statement.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metr...s-a-police-shooting-investigations-policy.ece

that's awesome. just enough time to fabricate a story.

'murica.
 

Humpy

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lol Okay . . .

From past experience I know that when anyone needs simple terms defined, I'm wasting my time from that point on. Feel free to hate 'em po po.

I assumed you would understand the questions would be relevant from the perspective of the police and courts, not me personally.

Christ, P&N is full of simple fucks.
 
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Werepossum is correct. I read and I apologize if I'm incorrect that where the incident happened its legal for the Police to chase someone who runs at a crime scene or in a high crime area. I can see where this can be a problem but that is the expectation. The fact is this guy criminal or not was healthy before being manhandled during his arrest, he then suffered a broken neck, then died. This should not happen it needs to be investigated in a responsible effective manner. How can we expect people in high crime areas to help officers out if they or friends or family get the shit beat out of them for vague reasons?
 

GarfieldtheCat

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So it turns out that he wasn't seat-belted into the Police van, and that Baltimore police have a habit of giving people "rough rides" where they intentionally don't seat-belt prisoners and drive with the intent to cause injury to innocent people.

Apparently this has happened before with several lawsuits against they city, paying out millions of dollars to people, including one with a broken neck. Hmmm, sound familiar?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...d-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html#page=1

Relatives of Dondi Johnson Sr., who was left a paraplegic after a 2005 police van ride, won a $7.4 million verdict against police officers. A year earlier, Jeffrey Alston was awarded $39 million by a jury after he became paralyzed from the neck down as the result of a van ride. Others have also received payouts after filing lawsuits.

For some, such injuries have been inflicted by what is known as a "rough ride" — an "unsanctioned technique" in which police vans are driven to cause "injury or pain" to unbuckled, handcuffed detainees, former city police officer Charles J. Key testified as an expert five years ago in a lawsuit over Johnson's subsequent death.

Man, nothing like the PD deliberately trying to injure innocent people under their control. What great human beings they are. So can we mark up the Baltimore PD as another shining example of a "few bad apple" department? I think the DOJ has their next city to watchdog.

Fucking disgusting.....if true, all the cops in the van should be in jail awaiting a trial for murder.
 

JSt0rm

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I cant believe these cops waste tax payer money by keep doing something that the city paid out 7 million on.
 

Pipeline 1010

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I cant believe these cops waste tax payer money by keep doing something that the city paid out 7 million on.

Why not? What did they lose? Money? Freedom? Employment?

Did you not read the part where they are OK paralyzing and killing cuffed and subdued suspects? If they are OK being brutalistic animals toward fellow human beings, why the fucking hell would they give a single shit about saving taxpayer money?
 

SheHateMe

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This guy got shot 4 times while riding a bike.

Exclusively-obtained dash-cam video shows Dontrell Stephens, 20, talking on a cellphone while riding his bike on a Friday morning in September 2013. He can be seen turning onto Norma Elaine Road near Haverhill Road and Okeechobee Boulevard as PBSO deputy Adams Lin trails him.

Moments later, Stephens realizes he’s being followed. He pulls over, gets off his bike with a cellphone in his right hand and walks toward the deputy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-3hTWLHUOU


West Palm Beach attorney Jack Scarola is suing the sheriff and the deputy on Stephens’ behalf. Scarola says he discovered issues with the deputy’s statements after requesting and viewing all the video and audio recordings from the incident.

"There are no records of any commands ever made to Dontrell Stephens," explained Scarola.

"The deputy's recorded statements following the shooting were absolutely false. Internal affairs completely ignored that evidence,” he said.

Today, Stephens is paralyzed from the waist down.


The sheriffs in the video lied after the fact about certain statements/commands being made to Stephens, there are no verbal commands being made in the video. No words can be heard from Stephens towards the officers. Officer Lin pretty much started shooting after the guy got off of his bike.
 
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So it turns out that he wasn't seat-belted into the Police van, and that Baltimore police have a habit of giving people "rough rides" where they intentionally don't seat-belt prisoners and drive with the intent to cause injury to innocent people.

Apparently this has happened before with several lawsuits against they city, paying out millions of dollars to people, including one with a broken neck. Hmmm, sound familiar?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...d-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html#page=1





Man, nothing like the PD deliberately trying to injure innocent people under their control. What great human beings they are. So can we mark up the Baltimore PD as another shining example of a "few bad apple" department? I think the DOJ has their next city to watchdog.

Fucking disgusting.....if true, all the cops in the van should be in jail awaiting a trial for murder.

Confirmed yesterday that he was not belted in the back of the Van. Police Department said that is against protocol.
 

SheHateMe

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Apparently, the department has a history of giving people "Rough Rides". They were already sued once before because they did this to someone else and the guy ended up breaking his neck and being paralyzed from the neck down.
 

Darwin333

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3-5 days to concoct a good story? That's Fucking insane!!!

Don't forget they are allowed to review all video evidence before they concoct said story just to make sure their stories don't conflict. Could you imagine giving accused criminals the same privilege?
 
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