It seems like this point is being lost in the endless culture war.
A man was arrested who should not have been arrested, then while in police custody was injured so severely that he died. For people who claim to be so suspicious of government power this should be about as bad as it can possibly get.
Until this happens to a rich white kid, there is no chance of conservatives ever caring about this. Because when you really get down to it, most of the conservative thought on this is that Freddie Gray did something and got what he deserved. It wasn't police stepping out of bounds, it was Freddie Gray forcing them to do what they had too.
It is interesting to watch their narrative shift to how the cops are the victims here.
Until this happens to a rich white kid, there is no chance of conservatives ever caring about this. Because when you really get down to it, most of the conservative thought on this is that Freddie Gray did something and got what he deserved. It wasn't police stepping out of bounds, it was Freddie Gray forcing them to do what they had too.
Typical isn't it? The poor police. They were just doing their jobs when they killed a man in their custody.
At least one of them had the responsibility to secure Mr. Gray for his safety. I think it possible that this may be a collective responsibility, although I could be wrong. But even if there's no way to prove whether or not the driver intentionally gave a "rough ride", given the Baltimore PD's record of severe injuries during transportation that should be sufficient for negligent homicide. Given Mr. Gray's apparently multiple severe injuries, I think it's also likely that he was seriously injured during the take-down as well, and considering that he apparently asked for and was denied care that also should be sufficient for negligent homicide.Which is exactly why none of these cops will see jail. The only one who had custody of him at that point was the driver. The charges against the driver are so overblown that they can never be proven in court barring a witness testimony. So far, that looks unlikely.
This circus brought to you by the Baltimore DA to appease a mob and nothing more. It plays right into the media's wheelhouse too. Imagine that.
Cops harass and beat down white Americans now. Unless it looks egregious, we tend to just say "dumbass" and move on, but many, many such cases result in legal action. Somehow looting and burning our neighborhoods just doesn't seem particularly productive.I think this is basically the crux of the whole police brutality situation imo. Until the cops start harassing and beating down white America nothing will really change. I mean, look at this thread. A guy was killed in police custody and all we hear about is how he should not have run and the poor police are being hit with mob justice.
This thread has gone insane. Somehow its a right wing culture war yet things will only happen a certain way if the jury is a) racist b) white (same thing apparently) c) rich d) conservative (same as all of the above) e) all of the above.
Gotta love P&N sometimes.
Cops harass and beat down white Americans now. Unless it looks egregious, we tend to just say "dumbass" and move on, but many, many such cases result in legal action. Somehow looting and burning our neighborhoods just doesn't seem particularly productive.
He was charged with Depraved Heart Murder which is a little different
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder
Also found the qualifications for it:
(1) that the defendant caused the death of (name);
(2) that the defendant's conduct created a very high risk to the life of (name); and
(3) that the defendant, conscious of such risk, acted with extreme disregard of the life-endangering consequences.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...619450-f021-11e4-8abc-d6aa3bad79dd_story.html
If ... If ... If.
As I said several times before; I do not know just as you don't. Neither of us saw him before. Yes it is possible that they are all lying their @sses off. But I don't know that for a FACT.
You guys are really dense or don't understand the written word very well.
That sounds like it would fit a "rough ride" that ended in death perfectly.
Something I just thought of, we all see in the video that it appears his legs are not working just fine anymore. His legs/feet would have been the only thing he had to use as leverage to keep himself in his seat unless he was buckled in. That makes not buckling him in even more negligent imho. It's like forgetting to buckle your newborn in, it's not a question of will they get hurt but how badly will they get hurt. Could the act of not buckling him in alone meet the requirements above regardless of how he drove?
Which is exactly why none of these cops will see jail. The only one who had custody of him at that point was the driver. The charges against the driver are so overblown that they can never be proven in court barring a witness testimony. So far, that looks unlikely.
This circus brought to you by the Baltimore DA to appease a mob and nothing more. It plays right into the media's wheelhouse too. Imagine that.
No they don't. Getting tired of FUD that spreads around the internet so many times it becomes fact.
But its still FUD. Its just a media narrative. I haven't ever had any problems with cops. You guys should KNOW better because everyone also knows the media is full of shit these days and yet here you are talking about stuff you never personally experienced and just read about on the internet. Cause we all know if it was on the internet media its true.
Alot of you guys have been sucked in 110% by this.
I thought about posting the article about Tamir Rice and how the cops are still delaying the investigation. 5 1/2 months and they haven't given a report on what happened, or whether anybody will be charged. I wonder what they are waiting for
I thought about posting the article about Tamir Rice and how the cops are still delaying the investigation. 5 1/2 months and they haven't given a report on what happened, or whether anybody will be charged. I wonder what they are waiting for
You probably want Cleveland to be burned to the ground because of this too
I thought about posting the article about Tamir Rice and how the cops are still delaying the investigation. 5 1/2 months and they haven't given a report on what happened, or whether anybody will be charged. I wonder what they are waiting for
I thought about posting the article about Tamir Rice and how the cops are still delaying the investigation. 5 1/2 months and they haven't given a report on what happened, or whether anybody will be charged. I wonder what they are waiting for
Holy shit, they still haven't let that poor lady bury her son!!! They have video evidence of what happened so yeah, 5 1/2 months sounds pretty absurd, what new evidence could they possibly collect?
Holy shit, they still haven't let that poor lady bury her son!!! They have video evidence of what happened so yeah, 5 1/2 months sounds pretty absurd, what new evidence could they possibly collect?
There really needs to be an outside agency performing investigations in situations like this.
http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-p...ard-to-investigate-officer-involved-shootingsThe Contact 5 investigators recently found that since 2000, PBSO has justified nearly all its deputy-involved shootings, and in deadly ones, the clearance rate is 97 percent.
There really needs to be an outside agency performing investigations in situations like this.