Freddie Gray dies a week after being injured during arrest

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cubby1223

Lifer
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The important distinction is, because the "report then verify" approach is necessary for survival, that alone is not indicative of a lack of integrity. And bear in mind I'm not talking about just Fox but all media outlets when I say that.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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The important distinction is, because the "report then verify" approach is necessary for survival, that alone is not indicative of a lack of integrity. And bear in mind I'm not talking about just Fox but all media outlets when I say that.

Yep, been that way forever, "Dewey Beats Truman".
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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People have all kinds of reasons for moving. It's more complicated than just the fear of safety, although racial makeup is likely the largest reason. Monterey Bay CA is a good example, after East Asian professionals started moving in in the late 70s about a quarter of the white population left. I'm sure you'll see similar statistics regarding Vancouver. The majority of the influx is from a wealthier and better educated population that has about 1/4 or 1/5 of the white crime rate but it still has precipitated a fairly significant exodus of the white population.

Well if a certain demographic moves in someone has to be moving out, maybe as people moved out for whatever their non-racist reasons were East Asians were the majority of the ones purchasing the now available homes?

For the vast majority of people they prefer to live by their own class of people. Upper middle class folk, of all races, generally "act" the same and have the same values and tenancies.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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the larger problem here is man made liberalism. It results in mass hysteria and irrational behavior. The alarmist hyper boil about alleged oppression and racism fanned and fueled by willing accomplices in the media and big Gov. along with endless grievance mongers designed to maintain a drum beat of anger and discontent. This is today's Democrat Party.

I think you meant hyperbole.

Maybe. I dont know.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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I believe this can be easily avoided in the future. Have the police stop killing people in their custody. In this case, it really is that simple.

Then why do people riot and burn and loot when the cops havent done anything wrong?

I guess maybe to you its "that simple" but I dont think you've considered all the other crap going on.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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the arrest and police involvement are behavior driven. Behavior matters.

Yes it does, and like the man said, the bad, seemingly felonious murder, behavior is on the part of the cops much more than the dead guy. Then the typical behavior of covering it up and people getting away with murder generally tends to piss people off.

The police have perpetuated the "us versus them" attitude, this is the natural progression of that "behavior". Not to excuse the rioters or anything, they are fucking idiots who are only hurting themselves.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Then why do people riot and burn and loot when the cops havent done anything wrong?

Sublime covered this.

There was a riot on streets
Tell me where were you?
You were sittin' home watchin' your TV
While I was participating in some anarchy
First spot we hit it was my liquor store
I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford
With red lights flashin', time to retire
And then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire
Next stop we hit, it was the music shop,
It only took one brick to make the window drop
Finally we got our own P.A.
Where do you think I got this guitar that you're hearing today?

("Call fire and tell them respond local station out to meet us at Anaheim. It's uh, flaming up good." "10-4 Alamidos at Anaheim")

When we returned to the pad to unload everything
It dawned on me that I need new home furnishings
So once again we filled the van until it was full
Since that day my livin' room's been much more comfortable
'Cause everybody in the hood has had it up to here
It's getting harder, and harder, and harder each and every year
Some kids went in a store with their mother
I saw her when she came out she was gettin' some Pampers
They said it was for the black man
They said it was for the Mexican
And not for the white man
But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
In this fucked-up situation and these fucked-up police
It's about comin' up and stayin' on top
And screamin' 1-8-7 on a mother fuckin' cop
It's not in the paper, it's on the wall
National guard
Smoke from all around
 

touchstone

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The news coverage is quite slanted towards the police, they constantly talk about the riots and the one single cop who got hurt. They fail to mention the dozens of citizens arrested and beaten, but who cares about citizens, right?








All hail our fat, angry, blue clad overlords.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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The news coverage is quite slanted towards the police, they constantly talk about the riots and the one single cop who got hurt. They fail to mention the dozens of citizens arrested and beaten, but who cares about citizens, right?

solution: don't riot
 

touchstone

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solution: don't riot

No I much prefer they do riot. Baltimore PD probably live in or around Baltimore and one way or another, these riots F up their lives. I like that idea better, than more of the same BS petitioning law enforcement to stop beating and harassing and robbing us. Why should we beg our abuser to stop abusing us?


That is what you are suggesting these people do, beg their abusers to 'be nicer', and you actually think that will work? What a crock, those cops could be caught eating babies on film and wouldn't be indicted. No amount of begging will get criminals to stop being criminals. Cops are criminals, they are literally the exact same kind of people, just different races and social classes.






BURN IT TO THE GROUND
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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That is what you are suggesting these people do, beg their abusers to 'be nicer', and you actually think that will work? What a crock, those cops could be caught eating babies on film and wouldn't be indicted. No amount of begging will get criminals to stop being criminals. Cops are criminals, they are literally the exact same kind of people, just different races and social classes.

I don't see cops burning whole blocks to the ground, no. I also don't see how burning the community to the ground helps either.

Burn a police station down? Some police cars? ok MAYBE I understand that. But a CVS that was supporting the local neighborhood? A wig store? c'mon now.
 

touchstone

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I don't see cops burning whole blocks to the ground, no. I also don't see how burning the community to the ground helps either.

Burn a police station down? Some police cars? ok MAYBE I understand that. But a CVS that was supporting the local neighborhood? A wig store? c'mon now.

You gotta start burning something, right? Fire spreads, start enough fires in one place and they move to others. Burn it ALL down, that's the only way to be fair to everybody
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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yessss... the answer is clearly more violence and destruction!!
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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The news coverage is quite slanted towards the police, they constantly talk about the riots and the one single cop who got hurt. They fail to mention the dozens of citizens arrested and beaten, but who cares about citizens, right?

They only arrested violent protesters, looters, thieves. The cops are letting most of them run wild because they dont want to have to shoot them. You'd be the one complaining they dont do enough as theres plenty of destruction going on.

And clearly you dont watch the news. Its a lot more than one cop.
 

Hugo Drax

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Lol, I just moved into a new house last year. The neighbor to the north is a black chef and the neighbor to the south is an asian doctor married to a white pharmacist. So much for your theory.....

One black chef in the neighborhood. How does that disprove anything.
 

railer

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Apr 15, 2000
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No I much prefer they do riot. Baltimore PD probably live in or around Baltimore and one way or another, these riots F up their lives. I like that idea better, than more of the same BS petitioning law enforcement to stop beating and harassing and robbing us. Why should we beg our abuser to stop abusing us?

BURN IT TO THE GROUND

Yeah because the cops that are policing these areas also live in the ghetto....right.

These riots affect no one but the rioters, and effect no positive change whatsoever.
The only thing that these riots are going to accomplish is to make life worse in every measureable way for the people living in these communities.

Yeah - Burn it to the ground! - spoken like a true pea-brain. Maybe you should get out there and riot with them? Let's see how that works out for you.
 

cKGunslinger

Lifer
Nov 29, 1999
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Yeah because the cops that are policing these areas also live in the ghetto....right.

These riots affect no one but the rioters, and effect no positive change whatsoever.
The only thing that these riots are going to accomplish is to make life worse in every measureable way for the people living in these communities.

Yeah - Burn it to the ground! - spoken like a true pea-brain. Maybe you should get out there and riot with them? Let's see how that works out for you.

That's right! Destroying property in protest has never accomplished anything!

Well.. except maybe for the Boston Tea Party
.. or the Berlin Wall
.. or the Bastille
.. or the Stonewall riots

But mostly, they never accomplish any change!
 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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The cops are wracking up millions of dollars in overtime. In a poor city. Guess they'll just have to cut social programs this year. Wonder who uses those?
 

Nograts

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That's right! Destroying property in protest has never accomplished anything!

Well.. except maybe for the Boston Tea Party
.. or the Berlin Wall
.. or the Bastille
.. or the Stonewall riots

But mostly, they never accomplish any change!

Wait...are you seriously comparing burning down a burger king to these events?
 

berzerker60

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Jul 18, 2012
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Yeah because the cops that are policing these areas also live in the ghetto....right.

These riots affect no one but the rioters, and effect no positive change whatsoever.
The only thing that these riots are going to accomplish is to make life worse in every measureable way for the people living in these communities.

Yeah - Burn it to the ground! - spoken like a true pea-brain. Maybe you should get out there and riot with them? Let's see how that works out for you.

It sure isn't getting the message out that people are sick of police brutality and expressing the urgency and passion with which they feel it or anything...
 
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