Come on, you know it is intentional on their part. They have their faith that sustains them, any facts we present aren't really true anyway. Nevermind they don't understand what the word "fact" means.
You guys are low information. Its kind of crappy I need to fill you in on such basics of this case.
It just amazes me how small govt conservatives are fine with letting the state kill a man in their custody by chalking it up to bad judgement.
It amazes me that bleeding heart anti-war liberals are okay with the president extra judicially executing a minor US citizen with drones.
It amazes me that bleeding heart anti-war liberals are okay with the president extra judicially executing a minor US citizen with drones.
There is video of gray before being put in the van in pain and not able to move his feet. So they didnt initially put him in the van with no injuries.
Who exactly was ok with it? Other than Eski, I am not aware of any support at all.
https://youtu.be/7YV0EtkWyno?t=140
I don't think it's as clear cut as you seem to think. Looks to me like he is standing up on his own two feet just fine at 2:24. Highly doubt a man with a broken spine would be able to do that.
P.S. I'm not condoning officer's actions, the man should have been properly restrained in the van, but I'm just saying there is conflicting evidence as to what exactly has happened.
Wait, what?
Really? Its clear he is in pain and its clear his spinalcord hasnt been severed yet. People are also commenting on his lack of leg usage. I dont know how much more evidence you need that he wasnt ok going into the van.
No. Those who chose to riot, loot and burn are responsible for their own actions just like the cops. Either each person is responsible for his or her own actions, or everything is just a bunch shit that happened and we live in a no-fault society.Yeah no shit. Because of police brutality a riot broke out and cost him his job. See how this works?
Indifference to human life is the core of this case. I would be fine with every officer involved being charged with murder under that same statute.Well they didnt render aid to a man with a broken spine. So they watched him suffer injuries that would later kill him. You are pretty uneducated about this whole thing. The charges brought against the cop:
Officer Goodson, 45, was charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, which means indifference to human life.
Do you know what this means? Did you do any research on this before coming here and trying to puppetmaster all of us?
Let me break it down for you:
In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder
Which is exactly why they have a responsibility to honor the threat and get medical care every time it is requested. They can feel that he is just a two bit drug dealer falsely claiming to be injured; they do not have the training to know if that is correct.And they knew that he had a broken spine - HOW?
They initially put in him without injuries.
While he may have asked for help; the LEO are not trained medical professionals to diagnose problems
You may want to go back and look at the video again, he stepped up and entered the van under his own power.
Show me the video not the stills. at any rate you can see he is injured in the video. Why is this worth splitting hairs over? The guy is dead I think its obvious he didnt spontaneously combust.
Show me the video not the stills. at any rate you can see he is injured in the video. Why is this worth splitting hairs over? The guy is dead I think its obvious he didnt spontaneously combust.
Show me the video not the stills. at any rate you can see he is injured in the video. Why is this worth splitting hairs over? The guy is dead I think its obvious he didnt spontaneously combust.
They have a duty tu secure him for his own protection. Once in custody his safety becomes their responsibility, and they not only failed to secure him, there is ample evidence that they knew severe injury was likely if a prisoner is unsecured.The video was posted by fleshconsumed on this page.
The video is going to make it for the prosecution to prove their case. If Gray could get in the van under his own power he could have equally stood while the van was moving and lost his balance/falling against the bolt that caused the spinal injury. Unless there are witnesses to the "rough ride" that will be hard to prove as well. When commentators on CNN and MSNBC are saying this case will be difficult at best to prove, I don't see any convictions due to the lack of critical evidence to prove the charges.
The video was posted by fleshconsumed on this page.
The video is going to make it for the prosecution to prove their case. If Gray could get in the van under his own power he could have equally stood while the van was moving and lost his balance/falling against the bolt that caused the spinal injury. Unless there are witnesses to the "rough ride" that will be hard to prove as well. When commentators on CNN and MSNBC are saying this case will be difficult at best to prove, I don't see any convictions due to the lack of critical evidence to prove the charges.
If he was not injured before getting in the van -> The cops didn't follow their own policies to seatbelt him in, and are responsible for him and his safety. So they are guilty.
Either way, they are guilty.
Weird, I have said as much yet he still wants to act like the question has gone completely unanswered. As if the answer from either you or I matters anyway.
I'll say it again, the charges levied against the officers appear to be made not to stick. Proving them is going to be extremely difficult with what we know so far, barring a new witness.
Unless the prosecution can proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the actions of the officers caused the injury/resulting death and that there's no feasible way that Gray could have taken actions that resulted in his injury chances are there will be no convictions. The prosecution will also have to prove that Gray's death was not due to complications from the surgery that was performed as he died.
I certainly agree with you that these cops wont do any time however I think the case against them is strong.
I believe that will depend largely on the makeup of the jury. In this case it could be the critical deciding factor. I myself would convict nobody of murder based on what I currently know.
Who exactly was ok with it? Other than Eski, I am not aware of any support at all.
Yeah most people I know are strongly against that. It's horrible. The problem is, there's no one I can vote for from either party who's against it, by the time we get through primaries.