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DerProfi

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I like their music, but not their political causes. First their support for that cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, and now this...

 

Kipper

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Keep the discussion on-topic or the mods will lock this thread, guaranteed. Posting links to political causes I doubt is truly "on topic."
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: DerProfi
I like their music, but not their political causes. First their support for that cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, and now this...

Justice For Police Officer Daniel Faulkner

<start Flamewar>

Hmm.. So it's okay to kill people in war, right? An innocent iraqi who gets killed by our forces is going to feel just as wronged as any American who was the victim of a terrorist attack.. We're simply legitimized terrorists if you want to look at it like that -- they just started the war earlier and have been more effective thus far.

-Merlin
 

LikeLinus

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They went from fighting for partying, banging girls, drinking brews.... to this load of crap.

News Flash....you're washed up and no one gives a sh!t about your political views. You were here making money off entertaining us, not enlightening us. Back up, sit down, and STFU now that youre rich and no one listens to you anymore.
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
They went from fighting for partying, banging girls, drinking brews.... to this load of crap. News Flash....you're washed up and no one gives a sh!t about your political views. You were here making money off entertaining us, not enlightening us. Back up, sit down, and STFU now that youre right and no one listens to you anymore.

hahahahahahahaaa.... classic post But then again, at least they're trying to manifest their influence in a positive way. Check out some of their personal comments on the site:

"In a world gone mad"


<P align=left>"We felt it was important to comment on where the US appears to be heading now. A war in Iraq will not resolve our problems. It can only result in the deaths of many innocent civilians and US troops. If we are truly striving for safety, we need to build friendships, not try to bully the rest of the world."
- Adam Yauch

"Being together, writing and recording, we felt it would be irresponsible not to address what?s going on in the world while the events are still current. It didn?t make sense to us to wait until the entire record was finished to release this song."
- Mike D

"This song is not an anti-American or pro-Saddam Hussein statement. This is a statement against an unjustified war."
- Adam Horovitz
<P align=left>New song "In A World Gone Mad..." available for free download below. See the links below for more information about how to get involved.

Direct Link to mp3
 
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Originally posted by: merlink
Originally posted by: DerProfi
I like their music, but not their political causes. First their support for that cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, and now this...

Justice For Police Officer Daniel Faulkner

<start Flamewar>

Hmm.. So it's okay to kill people in war, right? An innocent iraqi who gets killed by our forces is going to feel just as wronged as any American who was the victim of a terrorist attack.. We're simply legitimized terrorists if you want to look at it like that -- they just started the war earlier and have been more effective thus far.

-Merlin

We aren't aiming for innocents. That's the difference, genius.
 

datallah

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> A slightly different song on the subject - Darryl Worley - Have You Forgotten.

sure lets promote hatred and ignorant fear
 

Fingolfin269

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How is an innocent Iraqi who gets killed by American forces going to "feel" anything?

Just wondering!
 

alchemize

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"You gotta fight, for the right, to party"

But to prevent terrorism, end brutal dictatorships or development of weapons of mass destruction? Clearly not worth fighting for.
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: merlink
Originally posted by: DerProfi I like their music, but not their political causes. First their support for that cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, and now this... Justice For Police Officer Daniel Faulkner
<START Flamewar>Hmm.. So it's okay to kill people in war, right? An innocent iraqi who gets killed by our forces is going to feel just as wronged as any American who was the victim of a terrorist attack.. We're simply legitimized terrorists if you want to look at it like that -- they just started the war earlier and have been more effective thus far. -Merlin
We aren't aiming for innocents. That's the difference, genius.

Duh -- but there's no question that we'll hit them (the innocent), regardless of our aim./// It's just a convenient political justification to say that we're trying to HELP these POOR people. It's like saying, okay, we'll NUKE Saddam on USA soil, but we won't worry about the detrimental affects that the radioactivity will have on our citizens.. Of course we would -- but we're willing to be more reckless towards non-americans on foreign soil.

-Merlin
 

owensdj

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merlink, the difference is that terrorists TRY to kill innocent people but US forces are going to try NOT to kill innocent people. Some will die accidentally, but overall the people in Iraq will be much better off as a result of the war.
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
How is an innocent Iraqi who gets killed by American forces going to "feel" anything? Just wondering!

So you're saying that the 5,000 Americans who got killed in the WTC on 9/11 didn't "feel" anything? In that case, let's just destroy the ENTIRE world and end this pain and suffering.

-Merlin
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: madcowdisease
Keep the discussion on-topic or the mods will lock this thread, guaranteed. Posting links to political causes I doubt is truly "on topic."

It's more fun to have an argument in a non-typical arena though -- political forums are all too typical and played out already..

-Merlin
 

datallah

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"You gotta fight, for the right, to party
But to prevent terrorism, end brutal dictatorships or development of weapons of mass destruction? Clearly not worth fighting for. "

IMHO
preventing terrorism, ending brutal dictatorships and preventing development of WMDs are all worth fighting for...

too bad any war in Iraq would have nothing to do with the above
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: datallah
"You gotta fight, for the right, to party
But to prevent terrorism, end brutal dictatorships or development of weapons of mass destruction? Clearly not worth fighting for. "

IMHO
preventing terrorism, ending brutal dictatorships and preventing development of WMDs are all worth fighting for...

too bad any war in Iraq would have nothing to do with the above

You are so right. Clearly Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction, has never developed them, has never used them. Clearly it is not a brutal dicatorship. Clearly that state does not support terrorism. I stand corrected.

 

DerProfi

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Originally posted by: merlink

<start Flamewar>

Hmm.. So it's okay to kill people in war, right? An innocent iraqi who gets killed by our forces is going to feel just as wronged as any American who was the victim of a terrorist attack.. We're simply legitimized terrorists if you want to look at it like that -- they just started the war earlier and have been more effective thus far.

-Merlin
You mean the innocent Iraqis killed by Iraqi troops that are dressed up in copies of US and British uniforms? Yeah, I'd definitely be feeling pretty wronged if I were in their shoes.

Sure, the Beasties have a right to use their stardom for whatever they want, but I also have a right not to buy their next album (whenever that is) and turn them into has-beens. Silly rappers... At least you'd never catch Biz Markie doing this!
 

Doomer

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So, madcowdisease, does it feel good playing wannabe mod ? Are you a cop in real life or do you just fantasize about being one ?
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: DerProfi
Originally posted by: merlink <START Flamewar>Hmm.. So it's okay to kill people in war, right? An innocent iraqi who gets killed by our forces is going to feel just as wronged as any American who was the victim of a terrorist attack.. We're simply legitimized terrorists if you want to look at it like that -- they just started the war earlier and have been more effective thus far. -Merlin
You mean the innocent Iraqis killed by Iraqi troops that are dressed up in copies of US and British uniforms? Yeah, I'd definitely be feeling pretty wronged if I were in their shoes. Sure, the Beasties have a right to use their stardom for whatever they want, but I also have a right not to buy their next album (whenever that is) and turn them into has-beens. Silly rappers... At least you'd never catch Biz Markie doing this!

You actually believe the media, especially United State's based news sources? Get real -- think for yourself, this is a load of government propaganda...Sure, it probably has some truth in it, but to believe it absolutely is ignorant. Furthermore, think about this.. IF our government thought that WE were going to revolt, they wouldn't settle the manner peacefully -- they'd capture and kill.

-Merlin
 

merlink

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Originally posted by: owensdj
merlink, the difference is that terrorists TRY to kill innocent people but US forces are going to try NOT to kill innocent people. Some will die accidentally, but overall the people in Iraq will be much better off as a result of the war.

This is a good concept -- however, sadly enough, i'm positive that our government would be willing to wage war, even at the cost of EVERY iraqi life.

-Merlin
 
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