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kreb

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Good luck on getting this one.

I've been waiting over a year for my free t-shirt..
 

bkononchuk

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I guess only those who smoke get cancer. Nice logic there. I just have one question for you. Can you guarantee anyone that if they never smoke, they will never get lung cancer? Not likely. EVERYONE does something which is potentially detrimental to them or others. Come down from the moral high ground so you can see where the real world is.
 

TGregg

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Originally posted by: BigLar
Originally posted by: Pepsei
i keep getting the video and nothing else.
Me too

Did you guys try this link below?

Originally posted by: yangchu
link

There seems to be different versions out there. this one worked for me, it even came up with a window that mentioned finding the farting cow. which the OP poster's link didn't. I'm thinking they are running different servers and some have it. some don't. not sure.

I got the fillin on this link though.

 

middlehead

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The Truth is dishonest propaganda. Judging by the responses here, it's obvious they are spreading hate and intolerance.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: middlehead
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The Truth is dishonest propaganda. Judging by the responses here, it's obvious they are spreading hate and intolerance.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Considering I've disliked people smoking around me for quite some time, I don't see how they've personally influenced me. I feel they're letting the world know what harm smokers pose to passerbys.

It's a good thing smokers are a dying breed.
 

AoshichanX

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I wouldn't mind smokers as much if they wore some kind of fish bowl to stop second hand smoke. I just hate smelling their junk. :/
 

yangchu

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Originally posted by: nomadh
I know. I don't smoke. Barely know anybody who does but after all this heavy handed propoganda around it makes me feel sorry for smokers.... and truth. Both are taking a beating. People now are afraid they will get cancer if they have to walk past a smoker every few days. I wonder if there is any proof yet that anyone has ever died of secondhand smoke.


It is my understanding that most of the 'anti smoking' party's second hand smoke fodder is based upon a questionable EPA study. overview

The well known congressional rebuttal to the EPA's study can be found here: Link It is a dry read, but suffice it to say, it does well to point out the slipshod use of the scientific method as applied to the EPA study.

If I read and understand it correctly, the congressional findings determine that the true level of the carcinogetic material found in the urine of non-smokers living with smokers compared to the smokers themselves is about one half of 1 percent. .005 of the level of carcinogenic material. This would only be significant if you were already pre-disposed to lung cancer through family genetics, i'd imagine.

Penn and Teller's BullSh1t! did a rather fun episode on this study too. They had someone else do the math when comparing non smokers who are and aren't regularly exposed to 'ETS' (environmental tobacco smoke), but what it boils down to is that for non smokers not in contact with second hand smoke: 10 in 1,000,000 die from lung cancer, for non smokers that are in contact with second hand smoke (ie spouse of a smoker): 12.5 in 1,000,000 die from lung cancer. Not statisticly significant. unles you are one of those extra 2.5 i suppose. Regardless, with a number that small, there is no real way that you can discount other environmental factors affecting the difference. ie. molds, plastic fumes, air born lead paint particals, automobile emissions, and everything else that is floating around our heavily industrial society.

Yes. I smoke. In spite of, and maybe even DUE to, the socially approved bias against us (Dare I say, predjudice? Discrimination?); I firmly believe that smokers in general are a tougher breed. When the big one comes, we will have a learned advantage against our non smoking counterparts. When the nuclear winter (that's nucular, mr bush) comes, our years of training in standing outside for 15 - 20 minutes, 5 or 6 times a day, in freezing temperatures, will hold us in good steed.


edit: I damn well signed up for my free hat though. If anyone tumbles to the hats source when I'm smokin one out back at work, they will learn that the TRUTH is on my side.
 

yangchu

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Originally posted by: AoshichanX
I wouldn't mind smokers as much if they wore some kind of fish bowl to stop second hand smoke. I just hate smelling their junk. :/


I can appreciate someone having an aversion to the smell of smoke, but an aversion to something is not a sound basis for descriminatory laws. For the love of christ, they are leading up to banning smoking in cars with your window down! INSANE! Sure, you can belch out liters of noxious fumes in driving out to LAX, but DAMN you if you light up a stogie at the stop light.
 

2Dead

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Originally posted by: yangchu
link

There seems to be different versions out there. this one worked for me, it even came up with a window that mentioned finding the farting cow. which the OP poster's link didn't. I'm thinking they are running different servers and some have it. some don't. not sure.

I got the fillin on this link though.

Thanks guys, this is the link that works...
 

Packy

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I found it only worked after upgrading from Flash/Shockwave 7 to 8. Before that it wasn't showing the field names, etc. Thanks all!
 

markrb38

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Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The Truth is dishonest propaganda. Judging by the responses here, it's obvious they are spreading hate and intolerance.

I agree to a point on this. The whole second hand smoke argument is a lie as the whole study everyone uses was thrown out in federal court as unsceintific and inconclusive. Then they never even tried to do another study even though federal money was there.
See the Penn and Teller Show Bull Sh#t as they go over this whole thing.


First hand smoke though is a known killer.

I just wish groups like this would use real facts instead of using ones they think are real. I am sure that most in that group have no idea about the study.

BTW long time former smoker. I quite over 9 years ago and I am very glad I did.

Mark
 

desk

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Originally posted by: yangchu
Originally posted by: AoshichanX
I wouldn't mind smokers as much if they wore some kind of fish bowl to stop second hand smoke. I just hate smelling their junk. :/


I can appreciate someone having an aversion to the smell of smoke, but an aversion to something is not a sound basis for descriminatory laws. For the love of christ, they are leading up to banning smoking in cars with your window down! INSANE! Sure, you can belch out liters of noxious fumes in driving out to LAX, but DAMN you if you light up a stogie at the stop light.

you are just reaffirming why a lot people hate smokers. you just dont get get.
 
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