Free HL2 with pc3200 1GB HyperX in newegg

txrandom

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Is this memory good for overclocking your processor with? Also, is this memory a good price for about $220 bucks? I can resell Half-Life 2.
 

user1234

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This is completely overpriced even for premium memory - $140 for 512 MB ??? ummm..... yeah, I would like to meet the fool that would pay this price, when you can get Kingston and other brands of premium memory for $100 or less. Just recently fry's was selling 512MB sticks for $80, and mind you standard memory is $50 for 512 MB. So obviously even with HL2 it still sucks.
 

Schnook121

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Originally posted by: user1234
This is completely overpriced even for premium memory - $140 for 512 MB ??? ummm..... yeah, I would like to meet the fool that would pay this price, when you can get Kingston and other brands of premium memory for $100 or less. Just recently fry's was selling 512MB sticks for $80, and mind you standard memory is $50 for 512 MB. So obviously even with HL2 it still sucks.


Dude - this stuff is low latency. 2-2-2-5. The $80 sticks you saw were probably 3-3-3-10 or2.5-4-4-10
 

Lomic

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It's pretty much a fair deal, but I wouldn't call it hot. You can pick up 1GB of PDP/Patriot using the same TCCD chips for $221. Not sure about the HyperX, but the PDP also uses the favored Brainpower PCB, the same as OCZ.
 

cyberfuzz

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i bought these sticks from zzf, they still have the rebate going on so you get them for 222 AR, same price as some xms but with 2-2-2-5 timings.
 

Averox

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I'd go Kingston over Corsair, personally. There is just something about next day air advance RMA(I don't know what Corsair offers though) that keeps recommending them. I'm not sure about next day, but I did 2nd day air advance RMA and it was free of charge. HOT DAMN
 

jkj

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garkman: You don't get 1080 posts in 4 months by making any sense...
Ive always thought you shoudnt be able to attain senior member etc just through post count. Anyway to answer the question the ram is pretty good especially if you are using a platform to take advantage of low latency chips like this. IE overclocked AMD The results Ive seen from p4s doesnt make much of a difference.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: jkj
garkman: You don't get 1080 posts in 4 months by making any sense...
Ive always thought you shoudnt be able to attain senior member etc just through post count. Anyway to answer the question the ram is pretty good especially if you are using a platform to take advantage of low latency chips like this. IE overclocked AMD The results Ive seen from p4s doesnt make much of a difference.

That's why "elite" can't be obtained via post counts. The reason why AMD sees low latency as a benefit and not Intel is that Intel's memory controller's latency is much higher than AMD's. AMD almost sees RAM as a huge high latency L3 cache.
 

jkj

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: jkj
garkman: You don't get 1080 posts in 4 months by making any sense...
Ive always thought you shoudnt be able to attain senior member etc just through post count. Anyway to answer the question the ram is pretty good especially if you are using a platform to take advantage of low latency chips like this. IE overclocked AMD The results Ive seen from p4s doesnt make much of a difference.

That's why "elite" can't be obtained via post counts. The reason why AMD sees low latency as a benefit and not Intel is that Intel's memory controller's latency is much higher than AMD's. AMD almost sees RAM as a huge high latency L3 cache.

Just out of curiosity what does it take to become elite, btw it looks as if your well on your way
 

Demon-Xanth

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It takes an act of mod. I'll never be elite because I don't make a big enough difference on these boards. iirc, the lowest post count for elite was 14 posts.
 

jkj

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
It takes an act of mod. I'll never be elite because I don't make a big enough difference on these boards. iirc, the lowest post count for elite was 14 posts.

This is so far off-topic its ridiculous, but that must have been a great 14 posts.
 

user1234

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Originally posted by: Schnook121
Originally posted by: user1234
This is completely overpriced even for premium memory - $140 for 512 MB ??? ummm..... yeah, I would like to meet the fool that would pay this price, when you can get Kingston and other brands of premium memory for $100 or less. Just recently fry's was selling 512MB sticks for $80, and mind you standard memory is $50 for 512 MB. So obviously even with HL2 it still sucks.


Dude - this stuff is low latency. 2-2-2-5. The $80 sticks you saw were probably 3-3-3-10 or2.5-4-4-10


No, it's HyperX and I bought one and it's running 2-2-2-5, but if it makes you feel better about paying $140 for 512 MB than you can continue to tell yourself you got something "better". btw, here's a link to a similar deal. So you still think newegg's "deal" at a $100 more is hot ?
 

garkman

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okay "user1234" here's why you suck:
1) you're thread crapping -- this is a good deal for this product, if you dont think so then dont look at the thread, easy enough? Believe it or not, not all these threads were posted for your solitary enjoyment.

2) the RAM at outpost, while certainly a great deal -which is why it's been in the forums here already has these memory timings:

400MHz (PC3200) 2-3-2-6-1 (CAS Latency 2)

While this not might make much difference to you (or even me), people who are spending uber cash on their systems & trying to tweak 5% more performance from their $900 Athlon FX will appreciate the better timings

3) you're an ignorant...i'm gonna stop now cuz i respect the AT forum too much

So what should you do now? How about you go a few days without making a post? Can you do it? Read some good threads and see how real posts look, then try to emulate. Otherwise there's always the slashdot forums for ya.

-Troy
 

saechaka

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Originally posted by: Lomic
It's pretty much a fair deal, but I wouldn't call it hot. You can pick up 1GB of PDP/Patriot using the same TCCD chips for $221. Not sure about the HyperX, but the PDP also uses the favored Brainpower PCB, the same as OCZ.

off topic. are these the best deal for these TCCD chips? will these chips run tight timings at 250fsb? i'm trying to find a good deal for them. thansk
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Lomic
It's pretty much a fair deal, but I wouldn't call it hot. You can pick up 1GB of PDP/Patriot using the same TCCD chips for $221. Not sure about the HyperX, but the PDP also uses the favored Brainpower PCB, the same as OCZ.

I have two 512 sticks of PDP, timings are 2-3-2-5, PC3200. If I recall, it cost me about $170 for 1 GB. Wasn't bad at all. It's slightly slower than this stuff, but are you going to notice?
 

Bmott

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Slighty Off topic and slightly thread crapping.. BUT

I heard the best sticks or ram out right now are the Crucial Ballistix PC3200. People get these running at Cas 2-2-2-5 @DDR460 and 2.5-2-2-5 at DDR514 with only 2.6V!!!! Not too expensive either. You can buy them direct from Crucial $128.99 a stick. No free HL2 though.

Info via anandtech review

Crucial Website
 

user1234

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Originally posted by: garkman
okay "user1234" here's why you suck:
1) you're thread crapping -- this is a good deal for this product, if you dont think so then dont look at the thread, easy enough? Believe it or not, not all these threads were posted for your solitary enjoyment.

2) the RAM at outpost, while certainly a great deal -which is why it's been in the forums here already has these memory timings:

400MHz (PC3200) 2-3-2-6-1 (CAS Latency 2)

While this not might make much difference to you (or even me), people who are spending uber cash on their systems & trying to tweak 5% more performance from their $900 Athlon FX will appreciate the better timings

3) you're an ignorant...i'm gonna stop now cuz i respect the AT forum too much

So what should you do now? How about you go a few days without making a post? Can you do it? Read some good threads and see how real posts look, then try to emulate. Otherwise there's always the slashdot forums for ya.

-Troy


Let's see..... you really believe 2-2-2-5 will give you 5% improvement in your system's performance over 2-3-2-6 ? If you do, then you're the real ignorant here, and I'm sure everyone are laughing their ass off reading your wild conjectures. These differences are so slight, you're not likely to see a 0.01% difference in performance overall, and even memory tests will not show any significant difference. Second, the people that come here primariliy are looking for deals (hint: look at the category), and they do care about getting a good deal vs just paying any price to get that extra bit of performance. If they didn't care about price, they could just go and buy the best without looking at hot deals threads. In the end, a good deal is measured based on price/performance ratio, and based on that paying 50% more to get 0.01% does not constitute good value. And believe it or not, people do appreciate when other knowladgeable members comment on the value of a deal, because just the fact that the original poster thinks it's a good deal doesn't neccessarily mean it is. That's why you see many "hot deal" acknoledgement posts, or "not hot" posts, and most people welcome this feedback.

So keep your criticism to yourself [pwned]
 

dakels

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For people like me that already have pairs of HyperX chips and want to add more, its a very good deal. I actually saw this deal and got in on it before I saw it here. I was buying the RAM and wanted HL2 anyways so I saved $50 there. Otherwise I was reluctant to buy such expensive memory even though i have it already (but i purchased a long time ago for $80/per).

For the every day user, the bottom line is you do not need to spend the money on LL (low latency) ram. If you want to spend money, spend it on higher clock speed ram. A big step in clock speed (like 400mhz - 533) almost always outperforms lower latency. Only people who must eek out that 2%-5% difference should consider this to be any kind of a deal. And that 2-5% only reveals itself in very limited situations. Most operations dont see a dramatic difference from CL 2 to CL2.5 which costs substantially less.
 

DusterAZ

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Originally posted by: user1234
Originally posted by: garkman
okay "user1234" here's why you suck:
1) you're thread crapping -- this is a good deal for this product, if you dont think so then dont look at the thread, easy enough? Believe it or not, not all these threads were posted for your solitary enjoyment.

2) the RAM at outpost, while certainly a great deal -which is why it's been in the forums here already has these memory timings:

400MHz (PC3200) 2-3-2-6-1 (CAS Latency 2)

While this not might make much difference to you (or even me), people who are spending uber cash on their systems & trying to tweak 5% more performance from their $900 Athlon FX will appreciate the better timings

3) you're an ignorant...i'm gonna stop now cuz i respect the AT forum too much

So what should you do now? How about you go a few days without making a post? Can you do it? Read some good threads and see how real posts look, then try to emulate. Otherwise there's always the slashdot forums for ya.

-Troy


Let's see..... you really believe 2-2-2-5 will give you 5% improvement in your system's performance over 2-3-2-6 ? If you do, then you're the real ignorant here, and I'm sure everyone are laughing their ass off reading your wild conjectures. These differences are so slight, you're not likely to see a 0.01% difference in performance overall, and even memory tests will not show any significant difference. Second, the people that come here primariliy are looking for deals (hint: look at the category), and they do care about getting a good deal vs just paying any price to get that extra bit of performance. If they didn't care about price, they could just go and buy the best without looking at hot deals threads. In the end, a good deal is measured based on price/performance ratio, and based on that paying 50% more to get 0.01% does not constitute good value. And believe it or not, people do appreciate when other knowladgeable members comment on the value of a deal, because just the fact that the original poster thinks it's a good deal doesn't neccessarily mean it is. That's why you see many "hot deal" acknoledgement posts, or "not hot" posts, and most people welcome this feedback.

So keep your criticism to yourself [pwned]

Dude ... just stop ... and why are you telling him to keep his criticism to himself? Are you the only one allowed to criticize posts here?

Saying "pwned" should equal an automatic ban
 

user1234

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Criticing the value of a deal is the purpose of the thread, but I haven't criticized any people here like garkmon did. And anyway both of you are just n00b's and have no standing in passing any kind of criticism about anyone, especially a golden member such as myself. So dude.... just stop.... unless you have anything to add on topic.
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: user1234
This is completely overpriced even for premium memory - $140 for 512 MB ??? ummm..... yeah, I would like to meet the fool that would pay this price, when you can get Kingston and other brands of premium memory for $100 or less. Just recently fry's was selling 512MB sticks for $80, and mind you standard memory is $50 for 512 MB. So obviously even with HL2 it still sucks.


Please....if you do not know ANYTHING what you're talking about...then just stfu

Its still a bit a difference whetehr someone buys value ram for $140/Gig or $270 for Kingston/OCZ/Crucial Ballistix low latency ram.

You're comparing value sticks for $80 (which maybe might do 210 FSB MAX) with sticks which can run at 290FSB at tight timings..you do not have ONE clue.

I do agree, however, if someone does NOT overclock...leave the finger off it....get value ram.

The Kingston Ram (THIS particular kind !) itself is "good", not more or less. Its Samsung TCCD and might do 250-260. Other brands (OCZ, Geil, PQI) etc. are a tad better. Summary: If you are MODERATELY overclocking to a max. of 250 FSB this ram is good...but then its also TOO expensive. Then, for the same price ($260) there are better choices, eg. PQI, OCZ...still...this is good ram, bottomline

Lol: I am a "platinum" member, so.."golden member" bow down
 
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