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bluefmc

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MARINES
My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment

just kidding. it's just that i have navy in the family. i have nothing but respect for out service men and women. keep the faith boys, and don't let these ignorant individuals get you down.
 

ismellsmoke

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May 4, 2000
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as a former army 11th a cav vet , I can tell you that the marines are a first class act...I see it everyday because I live about mile from the front gate to Parris Island .Believe me , these guys are a lot tougher than you think you are.
 

ALBundyHere

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""Don't ge me wrong, its great to have Marines at times of war. They are great at killing. Don't think twice about killing themselves for our country. Problem is, we haven't had a real war in over 25 years."

We havent had a real war in 25 years? you forgot about the Kennedy-Cuba crisis where we almost became a crater cus the USSR was sending huge nukes to Cuba. The next real war might kill us all, since all the nukes would be going back and forth, this planet will implode. Titan AE sounds like a good place to live. I guess all politicians arent so bad, at least they try to negotiate instead of allowing the generals to nuke the whole planet.


 

Jarhead

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Oct 29, 1999
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ArmyInfantry

Marine Boot Camp is 13 weeks.

Army Basic Training is 7-8 weeks.

Marine Basic Infantry Training is another 12 weeks on
top of the 13 weeks of boot camp.

It is very interesting that you said the Army Basic
Infantry training is about the same as Marine Boot Camp,
I would venture to say that the end product is quite a
different result.
 

Jarhead

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marsl

Member Date Posted: Feb/14/2001 12:01 AM

..and cite ur source for that fortune 500 statement u made

Okay, it has appeared several times in print, the one I will
quote from a cover story on from USA Today, cover page.
It is the first one I found. It was written by Richard
Price, Eric Brazil, and with Aubrey Jolidon contributing.
It was titled, Courage and honor are a way of life.

"If accepted, he'll join a force that has turned out a
disproportionate share of this countries leading citizens.
About 175 of the Fortune 500 companies are ran by former
Marines."

You may go to your local library and do a periodicals search
and find many more references, all with various twists to
the same basic fact, depending on the angle the author was
trying to get accross.

Good Luck and I wish you the best in your pursuits in life.
 

Jarhead

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Oct 29, 1999
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CentralScrutinizer
Either RAN??????

Whatever, life goes both ways pal.

"You are breed to kill, so stick... " - CentralScrutinizer

Try bred, it sounds better.

Marines are of a certain breed and are cut from a different fabric.

My dog was bred to have a golden coat.

Take care.
 

DavidTigerFan

Senior member
Nov 13, 2000
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You know, I have never been in the military, but I work in civilian service for the Navy and I have to share some of the best jokes I've heard about marines...

Grab Bag of Jarhead Jokes

Q: "What has an IQ of 42?"
A: "40 Marines plus their lieutenant"

Q. "Why does the Navy put Marines on board ships?"
A. "Because sheep would be too obvious"

Q. "What do smart Marines and UFOs have in common?"
A. "You always hear about them but you never see them"

Q. "Why do the commodes in Marine barracks have the cut-out type seats?"
A. "So that if the seat falls while they're drinking, it won't smack them in the back of the head"

Just thought you guys would like a laugh...

-D
 

CentralScrutinizer

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Aug 9, 2000
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<<<We havent had a real war in 25 years? you forgot about the Kennedy-Cuba crisis where we almost became a crater cus the USSR was sending huge nukes to Cuba>>>

Uh, Cuba missle crisis was over 37 years ago.

<<<&quot;You are breed to kill, so stick... &quot; - CentralScrutinizer

Try bred, it sounds better.>>>

An anal retentive Marine? Wierd combo.

Listen, I like Marines. Just no one gonna convince me that their greatest ocntribution is a very limited but valuable role: killing and reflexively willing to be killed.

And if their is no killing to be done, enlisting means a lot of time waiting to do some killing. SO they just go around saying hoo-ray to each other and talking about how great it is to be a Marine.

But its like sitting on the bench during the fourth quarter. You may be suited up, but you ain't playing football.

 

ArmyInfantry

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Hey now, I won't bad mouth on your branch so don't bad mouth mine. Each branch has their respective jobs. Army produces good Infantryman, Rangers, Special Forces and Delta Force, Marines are all good rifleman plus force recon, Navy has the SEALs and the Air Force has the PJs. Nobody is better than anyone else since we all have our own missions. No need to have hostilities toward other branches since we are all protecting the same principles and swore to protect the same country.
 

Jarhead

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Oct 29, 1999
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Okay, Army Infantry.

Just ask some of your senior folks from the Korean and
Vietnam &quot;wars&quot;, from which branch of the military would
they like the close air support to come from when all
hell broke loose and their *sses were in a sling.

I've yet to talk to a infantry/ground pounder war veteran
who'd say anything but the U.S. Marines. And I've heard
quite a few mention things like they could feel the heat
of the engines as they neutralized the immediate threat,
or, they could have dropped the bomb in your lap if you
asked. Obviously, these are some slight exaggerations that
vets tend to embellish on, but when I saw Marine pilots
bringing back aircraft with the whole tail section blown
off, or the vertical member torn off, a hole in the wing
that four men could stand in, or that had taken a missle
right up it's tail pipe and kinda expanded the back end a
little, you begin to realized the differences in the training
between the branches. In case you don't understand, most
pilots would have punched out.

Here is another example of what Marines do, besides giving
their lives to God, Country, and Corps and dying on a foreign
battlefield.

During the Bosnia conflict, Captain Scott O'Grady's F-16 was
cut in half by a missle. He punched out of the tumbling cockpit
and made it safely to the ground. The Air Force was unable to
get their Special Forces (specifically ParaRescue) in to search
for him, or was the CIA able to locate him with Vortex or Magnum
spy satellites, so the ground was scanned by KH-11 and Lacrosse
spy satellites. Six days after he went down, Air Force callsign
Basher52 (pilot) located him. Navy Admiral Smith got word almost
immediately and contacted Colonel Martin Berndt, commander of the
24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, who was floating aboard the USS
Kearsarge, in the Adriatic Sea, at approximately 1 a.m. Colonel
Berndt decided he they would go in and pull him out immediately.
As typical of a MEU, they become Special Operations Capable (a
qualification workup the begins before Marines go on float)
The Colonel decided he would personally lead the rescue, with
a team of 41 Marines, some one of their mortar platoons. This
also included Marine pilots piloting two AH-1W SeaCobras, two
CH-53E Sea Stallions, four AV-8B Sea Harriers, along with
theater support from Aviano and the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
By 0545, the mission was planned and the aircraft were
approaching the coast. At 0621, an EA-6B detected Serbian
radar tracking the Marine raiding party, and the Serbians
were defending themselves. Less than 15 minutes later, yellow
smoke from Lt. O'Grady's flare was located, and Marines were on
the ground by 0644. Helicopter Dash-1 dropped a score of
Leathernecks to establish a perimeter. Dash-2 came in and was
preparing to unload the rescue team, when Lt. O'Grady was sighted,
dripping wet, waving a pistol, and making a bee line for the
helocopter. Pulled in through a side-gunner hatch, he wasn't safe
yet. Racing back to safety, with the sun backlighting them, the
first Serb SAM-6 (Surface-to-Air-Missle) corkscrewed past on the
left. The chopper pilots dove, skimming the surface of the ground,
and then were engaged by small arms fire, winking off of the rotor
blades. By 0730, the Sea Stallions were settling down on the
flight deck of the Kearsarge. He was safe.

Nonetheless, some Pentagon officials suspect that the
Air Force got a little careless. Normally, F-16s are
accompanied by Marine and Navy EA-6B Prowlers to
detect and jam enemy RADAR (to protect the F-16s).
O'Grady's two plane patrol had no such protection.


 

Jarhead

Senior member
Oct 29, 1999
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Okay, Army Infantry.

Just ask some of your senior folks from the Korean and
Vietnam &quot;wars&quot;, from which branch of the military would
they like the close air support to come from when all
hell broke loose and their *sses were in a sling.

I've yet to talk to a infantry/ground pounder war veteran
who'd say anything but the U.S. Marines. And I've heard
quite a few mention things like they could feel the heat
of the engines as they neutralized the immediate threat,
or, they could have dropped the bomb in your lap if you
asked. Obviously, these are some slight exaggerations that
vets tend to embellish on, but when I saw Marine pilots
bringing back aircraft with the whole tail section blown
off, or the vertical member torn off, a hole in the wing
that four men could stand in, or that had taken a missle
right up it's tail pipe and kinda expanded the back end a
little, you begin to realized the differences in the training
between the branches. In case you don't understand, most
pilots would have punched out.

Here is another example of what Marines do, besides giving
their lives to God, Country, and Corps and dying on a foreign
battlefield.

During the Bosnia conflict, Captain Scott O'Grady's F-16 was
cut in half by a missle. He punched out of the tumbling cockpit
and made it safely to the ground. The Air Force was unable to
get their Special Forces (specifically ParaRescue) in to search
for him, or was the CIA able to locate him with Vortex or Magnum
spy satellites, so the ground was scanned by KH-11 and Lacrosse
spy satellites. Six days after he went down, Air Force callsign
Basher52 (pilot) located him. Navy Admiral Smith got word almost
immediately and contacted Colonel Martin Berndt, commander of the
24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, who was floating aboard the USS
Kearsarge, in the Adriatic Sea, at approximately 1 a.m. Colonel
Berndt decided he they would go in and pull him out immediately.
As typical of a MEU, they become Special Operations Capable (a
qualification workup the begins before Marines go on float)
The Colonel decided he would personally lead the rescue, with
a team of 41 Marines, some one of their mortar platoons. This
also included Marine pilots piloting two AH-1W SeaCobras, two
CH-53E Sea Stallions, four AV-8B Sea Harriers, along with
theater support from Aviano and the USS Theodore Roosevelt.
By 0545, the mission was planned and the aircraft were
approaching the coast. At 0621, an EA-6B detected Serbian
radar tracking the Marine raiding party, and the Serbians
were defending themselves. Less than 15 minutes later, yellow
smoke from Lt. O'Grady's flare was located, and Marines were on
the ground by 0644. Helicopter Dash-1 dropped a score of
Leathernecks to establish a perimeter. Dash-2 came in and was
preparing to unload the rescue team, when Lt. O'Grady was sighted,
dripping wet, waving a pistol, and making a bee line for the
helocopter. Pulled in through a side-gunner hatch, he wasn't safe
yet. Racing back to safety, with the sun backlighting them, the
first Serb SAM-6 (Surface-to-Air-Missle) corkscrewed past on the
left. The chopper pilots dove, skimming the surface of the ground,
and then were engaged by small arms fire, winking off of the rotor
blades. By 0730, the Sea Stallions were settling down on the
flight deck of the Kearsarge. He was safe.

Nonetheless, some Pentagon officials suspect that the
Air Force got a little careless. Normally, F-16s are
accompanied by Marine and Navy EA-6B Prowlers to
detect and jam enemy RADAR (to protect the F-16s).
O'Grady's two plane patrol had no such protection.

Just for you, CentralScrutinizer, here is more information
if you want to learn more...

One of the sources you may refer to is Newsweek June 19, 1995,
pages 25-33. If you need to search by Author, it was written
by Evan Thomas, photos by Peter Turnley, along with Gregory
Vistica, John Barry, Bob Cohn, Martha Brant, Daniel Pedersen,
Rod Nordland, Joel Brand, Andrew Murr, and Gregory Beals.


 

Jarhead

Senior member
Oct 29, 1999
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DavidTigerFan

From your jokes, I'll assume you were in the Navy.

I apoligize in advance if this offends anyone.

Q. Why do Sailors always take Tide to the shower?
A. It takes longer to pick up.

And this one, some folks refer to Sailors as Squids.

Squids are a lower form of Marine life.

Anyone got any Air Force or Army jokes?
 

LeatherNeck

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Central Scrutinizer - And if their is no killing to be done, enlisting means a lot of time waiting to do some killing. SO they just go around saying hoo-ray to each other and talking about how great it is to be a Marine.

Ignorance is not a virtue. Do you actually read the newspaper or watch the news?

Marines are forward deployed constantly. At any given time there are two or more Marine Expeditionary Units on station in the Atlantic or Pacific embarked aboard Amphibious ships. The force consists of a Battalion Landing Team, a Marine Air Squadron, and a Service Support Group. They are capable of multiple missions from Amphibious Raids to Noncombatant Evacuation Operations. They are forward deployed for 6 months at a time much to the chagrin of their families who only wish all they had to to was sit around and say hooray as you so arrogantly malign.

The first thing a CINC does when there is a hot spot in the world is ask: &quot;Where are the MEU's?&quot; They have been called in to many unstable regions over the past decade and are an invaluable asset for a show of force. There are many levels between peace and all out war and Marines are the force, in almost all cases, that prevents that escalation. Do you even know what a CINC is or is that something else you're completely oblivious to?

Do you revel in sounding like a moron or is it that you just can't help yourself?
 

bluefmc

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Air Force jokes? Do you mean Chair Force jokes? I mean come on, most personnel in the Air Force will never fly anything more advanced than a Steelcase desk.

Good Navy joke, Jarhead, but remember MARINEs stands for:
Muscles Are Required Intelligence Not Encouraged.

Hey aren't you Marines really in the Navy since the CNO signs your paychecks?

(For those ignoramuses like CentralScrutinizer CNO is Chief of Naval Operations.)
 

BatBoy

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Feb 10, 2001
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lol, here is my .000002

-CentralScrutinizer-

Our military is the only reason why you can sit your *ss comfortably in your chair every night looking for freebies. Without it, you would be woking as a slave in mexico. We are constantly trying to develop new military technologies to stay ahead of the world. and the reason for that is to keep others from making any malicious move, not to bully on others as you mentioned. If you dont the marines, dont join them. but dont discourage other people. Let them decide for themselves. and if you still want to run your mouth, I say we put you and Jarhead in a steel cage for a death match.
 

Jarhead

Senior member
Oct 29, 1999
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Addragyn

I didn't follow what the link was to the article.
If you are referring to the Fortune 500 reference,
I've seen dozens in print. But I didn't notice
that in the article.

CentralScrutinizer

If a real war goes down, and the draft is institued
again (more likely now, after the reduction in force
that got rid of a large portion of our military), guess
what?

If you get drafted, those fine outstanding young men
you like to rag on, the ones in the military now, will
be the ones who are in charge. You get to be the private,
the lowest man on the totem pole. Good chance you will
become the piece of meat that is put on the front line,
in one of the most dangerous scenarios. Often, you will
get to walk point during a patrol, or be told to scout
ahead. See, you just like one of the temps that you find
in a business, since you are a draftee. You know about
all those horror stories from 'Nam? Most of them come
from &quot;temps&quot;.

BatBoy-

A cage might not be fair. I really don't know how to
fight well, but I know I can kill, and in 1986, a group
of seven gang bangers, taught me this. They started
following me, I popped into a book shop. After 15 minutes
they were gone. Started walking down the street, and
they popped around a corner right in front of me. They
started insulting me, pushed me a few times, and then
one decided he was gonna hit me. Time was over to chill,
I reacted, naturally, next thing I know he is on the ground
and thank God I some how stopped myself from snapping his
neck, which I was in the process of doing, his blood was
already on his buddies, and his nose kinda blended into his
face. This doesn't mean Marines are bad *sses, by any means,
as war is not like the movies, nor is every Marine as lucky
as I was that day.

Of course, without the aid of a rifle scope, and on a nice
windy day, it is noting for me to hit a smaller than man
sized target at 500 meters, 10 out of 10 times. After 12
years, I can almost do it in my sleep, or with a cold that
hospitalized me, right after rifle qualification, on a day
with temperatures below freezing. I gave one of my chevrons
to my range coach (not that he really did anything, it is
tradition), since I fired high score for the day. At least
he offered to drive me over to medical... Guess that wouldn't
be fair either.

It isn't right, nor what I accidentally did to that gang banger,
and I still feel a little guilty to this day.

CentralScrutinizer

Oh, and that degree? Doesn't automatically make you an
officer...now or as a draftee. Real life sucks pal.

Good luck, and I wish you the best in the pursuit of your
dreams, just don't forget about those who make it possible.

 

Cyberian

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Jun 17, 2000
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Hey now, I won't bad mouth on your branch so don't bad mouth mine. Each branch has their respective jobs. Army produces good Infantryman, Rangers, Special Forces and Delta Force, Marines are all good rifleman plus force recon, Navy has the SEALs and the Air Force has the PJs. Nobody is better than anyone else since we all have our own missions. No need to have hostilities toward other branches since we are all protecting the same principles and swore to protect the same country.

What he said!!


I doubt if the toughest combat-hardened Marine could pilot a Destroyer.
Nor the Destroyer Captain perform the duties of a lowly Army Medic.
The E-5 Army Medic surely can't fly a Supersonic Fighter.
And the Air Force genius that designs computerized guidance systems might not be too good at hand-to-hand combat.
 

Jarhead

Senior member
Oct 29, 1999
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Cyberian

>And the Air Force genius that designs computerized guidance systems might not be >too good at hand-to-hand combat.

Those guidance systems are *NOT* designed by the Air Force. They recieve extensive training to teach them how to operate and maintain the equipment designed and developed by civilians employed by Defense Contractors (companies ran by civilian companies like Grumman-Northrup, Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, and the like. Occassionally, a university will develop a idea, and one of these companies will build it.

Ten years ago, the Marine Corps actually had more aircraft, and more types of aircraft, than the Air Force.

 

Nack

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Oct 10, 1999
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During revenge of Montezuma,
And on your date with Cindy Lee,
That recruiter will always find you,
On the land and on the sea.

When your inbox fills up every-day,
And the phone rings constantly,
You will finally give up running,
And join the United States Marines.

Seriously. If you think you want to be a Marine, order the pen and talk to them. If you have no interest, don't waste your time and theirs. You DON'T want a recruiter calling you if you aren't interested in joining up anyway.

Nack
 
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