Free Mormon DVD

[KingThot]

Let me gaze into my crystal ball and see this thread future.... OH MY... it's so clear it's a large neon sign porclaiming: LOCKED

Mormons are just fine guys. Just like the rest of us for the most part. I have some good friends who are mormon and they're great people, seriously.

 

[tophman]

An interesting read....Text
To go along with your Shiny new DVD

And don't forget this as well.
My first experience with them was in SLC in 1986 when I was in the USAF. Since they were everywhere in that area, I learned what I could about them, it was secretive and clouded in controversy even then. I've always been wary of the facts presented, and continue to be so inclined.2nd link

I've come to the conclusion that if the LDS themselves discovered something damning they would bury it to keep the power they have gained.
Power and Control.....those that have it cannot risk it's loss.

 

[robertsmith]

Most of the Mormons I know personally are ethical and socially conscious people. Of course, that doesn't make Mormonism Christian. The last posters second link is illuminating, for it dispenses with the idea that Christ came again (to America, OF COURSE). Mormons have had racist beliefs in the past, not allowing Blacks into the priesthood, and some say they continue to be sexist, as unmarried women cannot enter the highest heaven, and women are still considered primarily ovens.

 

[BrokenVisage]

I want to be like Ken Jennings!

 

[MrNutz]

Great Read - Plain Truth

I've known a number of mormons and although they are very nice ppl... extremely athletic and stray from "mass media" - (which I agree with them on)...

They believe that salvation is attainable through good works. (BTW, muslims believe this as well) And as honorable as that is, it is just flat out not true.

Jesus taught us that we should live our lives with the mindset of humbling ourselves before others and serving our fellow man. But He came to this earth to save us from ourselves.

Before Jesus came, ppl would make an animal sacrifice (burnt offering) to obtain forgiveness from God for their sin... The Good News (Gospel) is that the perfect lamb, has been sacrificed for all of our sins.

When Jesus was bound to the cross, our hands were unbound from the shackles of sin. Salvation through Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

So the question is... the gift of salvation has been given... Have you accepted? (Deut 4:29)

 

[KingThot]

Oh my. This thread it gettin' a bit too heavy for my tastes. WHEN WILL THE MODS COME LOCK IT!

 

[bznotins]

Will this DVD teach me how to get more wives?

 

[Commando8]

Talk about the wierdest find of the day -- a lively religious descussion in the anandtech hot deals forum -- I'm really just scratching my head trying to figure out how this is a hot deal...

And by the way, as a student of religions, I would definitly say that some of you don't know what on earth you are talking about when it comes to Mormons and their beliefs...they really are solid!...

 

[iamcdn28]

Originally posted by: robertsmith
What does Jesus look like - blue eyed and blonde? Like the ideal American country boy?

Actually that would be the Nazis. The ideal American country boy usually has brown hair and blue eyes. At least, according to the movies I've seen.

 

[seanbigdealer]

Since this is a great "hot deal" discussion:

Mormons were kicked from town to town and state to state before they arrived in Salt Lake. NY saw enough of them and it went from there.

Does LDS church put the book of Mormon at the same level or higher than the Holy Bible in recommended spiritual reading? Does having a book written in the past several hundred years and marketing it as a "must read, as important as the bible" go against teachings in the bible itself?

Revelation 22:18
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

 

[Mr Bob]

"Some Mormons just came to my door and gave me a free picture of Jesus and a paper with a link to this site to get a free DVD about Mormons. "
- You let them in?!?!?!? That's the first step of being converted, be careful folks!

Does the DVD include information about where we can find large white houses and chevy suburbans for our 15 children?

 

[cheetoden]

I love throwing those bastards off my porch, just like Jesus chased the peddlers out of the temple.

 

[dogchainx]

Originally posted by: ariafrost

Originally posted by: wallsfd949

Originally posted by: robertsmith
What does Jesus look like - blue eyed and blonde? Like the ideal American country boy?

Jesus was a Jew and a carpenter so He most likely would have been stocky and had dark curly hair with a beard.

He most certainly would not have been effeminate looking like the renaissance painters portrayed him.

This is going way off topic BTW.

No it's very on-topic. Mormons are exclusivist, rascist, and secretive. They are also considered heretical and should NOT be called "Christian".

Edit: /rant Don't mind me I'm just passing through.

"Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints"

I'd say that constitutes us as Christian, since we do infact believe in Christ. =)

 

[sparhawk6]

Originally posted by: seanbigdealer

Revelation 22:18
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

Bible means "collection of books." The Book of Revelations is a book unto itself, this scripture refers to Revelations itself. Many books of the Bible were actually written after John finished Revelations, in fact his own gospel was finished after Revelations.

A simliar scripture is found in Deuteronomy 4:2, the 5th book of the Old Testament. "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you..."

 

[robertsmith]

Actually, you are right on the blond hair. My point, however, is that the Eurocentric depictions of Jesus are hardly accurate. He most likely looked like what we nowadays would consider "Middle Eastern," with dark hark and a darker hue. Actually, perhaps even a little like the stereotypical depiction of an Arab terrorist in movies...

ANYWAYs, the deal should be moved to DEAL DISCUSSION - if this fits the category of a "DEAL"

 

[kenan921]

"They believe that salvation is attainable through good works. (BTW, muslims believe this as well) And as honorable as that is, it is just flat out not true."

Hmm, so let me guess, only the people who believe and act exactly as you believe they should are going to achieve this mystical salvation that you speak of. I love how people relate their personal beliefs as if they were reciting scientifically verifiable facts. Mr. Nutz (an apt user name for sure) how you can arrogantly state that someone else's equally faith based belief "is just flat out not true" astounds me.

You want a hot deal? It's called an open mind, and it's free.

"Imagine that we could revive a well-educated Christian of the fourteenth century. The man would prove to be a total ignoramus, except on matters of faith. His beliefs about geography, astronomy, and medicine would embarrass even a child, but he would know more or less everything there is to know about God. Though he would be considered a fool to think that the earth is flat, or that trepanning constitutes a wise medical intervention, his religious ideas would still be beyond reproach. There are two explanations for this: either we perfected our religious understanding of the world a millennium ago-while our knowledge on all other fronts was still hopelessly inchoate-or religion, being the mere maintenance of dogma, is one area of discourse that does not admit of progress." - Sam Harris

 

[robertsmith]

"Imagine that we could revive a well-educated Christian of the fourteenth century. The man would prove to be a total ignoramus, except on matters of faith. His beliefs about geography, astronomy, and medicine would embarrass even a child, but he would know more or less everything there is to know about God. Though he would be considered a fool to think that the earth is flat..." - Sam Harris

Isn't this what the CREATIONISTs are thinking TODAY, that the Earth is flat (aka only several thousand years old)? About anywhere else in the world (hey, even on the FLAT PARTS of the DISC) people shake with laughter about such idiocy. Party on, Wayne...

 

[dogchainx]

Originally posted by: seanbigdealer
Since this is a great "hot deal" discussion:

Mormons were kicked from town to town and state to state before they arrived in Salt Lake. NY saw enough of them and it went from there.

Does LDS church put the book of Mormon at the same level or higher than the Holy Bible in recommended spiritual reading? Does having a book written in the past several hundred years and marketing it as a "must read, as important as the bible" go against teachings in the bible itself?

Revelation 22:18
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

Interpretation of scriptures. Bible, from the greek root Biblia, means "BOOKS". Each book in the bible was written seperately over a long history. I believe it was only in about the 1500 did the scriptures become canonized in their current order (i think 1600 or so actually for the King James version)

In Revelations it holds many promises that are only held to the BOOK OF REVELATION.
At the time Revelations was written, the "BIBLE" was not in exsistence, so this scripture has no meaning when trying to apply it to the entire Bible. When it says in Revelation 22:18 "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book."

"in this book"....that means the book of Revelation itself, not the Bible. '


Anyways, I'm LDS and would just like to add that I love being LDS, enjoy worshiping Christ and hope those who want to know more about God to read the Book of Mormon and invite the missionaries over to hear what they have to say.

I was one of those who went out and talked to people about the LDS Church, and have had my fair share of "Bible Bashing" experiences. But I seriously doubt God placed the Bible on Earth to generate confusion and hatred among the so many different Christian faiths. Contention is of the devil, and I hope that we as Christians can really be "Christian" and get along. =)

-Sean

 

[robertsmith]

Originally posted by: dogchainx

Originally posted by: seanbigdealer
Since this is a great "hot deal" discussion:

Mormons were kicked from town to town and state to state before they arrived in Salt Lake. NY saw enough of them and it went from there.

Does LDS church put the book of Mormon at the same level or higher than the Holy Bible in recommended spiritual reading? Does having a book written in the past several hundred years and marketing it as a "must read, as important as the bible" go against teachings in the bible itself?

Revelation 22:18
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

Interpretation of scriptures. Bible, from the greek root Biblia, means "BOOKS". Each book in the bible was written seperately over a long history. I believe it was only in about the 1500 did the scriptures become canonized in their current order (i think 1600 or so actually for the King James version)

In Revelations it holds many promises that are only held to the BOOK OF REVELATION.
At the time Revelations was written, the "BIBLE" was not in exsistence, so this scripture has no meaning when trying to apply it to the entire Bible. When it says in Revelation 22:18 "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book."

"in this book"....that means the book of Revelation itself, not the Bible. '


Anyways, I'm LDS and would just like to add that I love being LDS, enjoy worshiping Christ and hope those who want to know more about God to read the Book of Mormon and invite the missionaries over to hear what they have to say.

I was one of those who went out and talked to people about the LDS Church, and have had my fair share of "Bible Bashing" experiences. But I seriously doubt God placed the Bible on Earth to generate confusion and hatred among the so many different Christian faiths. Contention is of the devil, and I hope that we as Christians can really be "Christian" and get along. =)

-Sean

Hey, nothing wrong with Mormons (or others) sharing their religious experiences or drawing strength from faith...I think most ATs subscribe to this view, even if it does not apply to them personally.

 

[imported_motodude]

I'm in for five wives too. HOT!!!

 

[llars]

OK, someone had to quote the book of Anandtech

If you want to discuss religion, or any other such non-computer topic, do it in our Off Topic forum. The discussions in that forum cover a wide range of topics, but needless flaming and rude, mean-spirited posts are not welcome there, either.

 

[conlan]

I didn't realize there were so many fellow Loganites on AT.

I'm a Christian who doesn't believe in organized religion. That being said, disrespecting ones chosen religion (no matter the choice) is just wrong. IMHO

 

[MrNutz]

Originally posted by: kenan921
Hmm, so let me guess, only the people who believe and act exactly as you believe they should are going to achieve this mystical salvation that you speak of. I love how people relate their personal beliefs as if they were reciting scientifically verifiable facts.

I guess I can just say that this would be a typical reply from a self-proclaimed "intellectual" un-believer...

How do I know? - Because I used to have the same argument.

Now I live a "faith-based" life b/c I have turned my life over to Jesus by accepting Him as my savior. The good works I perform do not constitute my faith, that is only a sign of my obedience. Who leads my life is a measure of my faith.

Jesus Christ did come to this earth to save us from our sinful ways. He was not just a great moral teacher as some religions claim him to be (muslims), He was God living among us. There is no doubt about it - Jesus said so Himself. (Which if He lied about being the Son of God, then He would not have been a great moral teacher. - So that in itself debunks the Quran's limited analysis of Jesus.)

There is nothing mystical about my salvation. (Star Wars is a movie, your life and your eternity is real.)

You want a scientifically verifiable fact?

Well, I'm guessing you mean you want to perform the scientific method on the existence of Jesus? Ok, but let's start with something even simpler. - The existence of our first President, George Washington.

First, let's observe his existence... Well, we can't do that because he doesn't live anymore. And we certainly can't reproduce his existence. So in the case of proving the existence of a person the scientific method falls short.

But President George Washington did live... Didn't he? - Well, of course, we have testimonies from many people that met him and spent time with him.

So what does that have to do with Jesus? - Well if you do just a fraction of your homework, you would see that He died on the cross so that we would not be condemned by sin. And three days later he rose again!

That's the GOOD NEWS! - We serve a living God, as testified by over 500 witnesses!

But...

If you want to debunk me or invalidate my views, I welcome you to do so. But do your own research. You claim to intelligent, so don't just say "Because I heard..." Or "Just because..." - That's the simpleton's approach.

 

[overclock]

I joined the "Mormon" church when I was 21. What impressed me the most is that I was invited to pray and ask if what I was being taught by the missionaries was true. I never heard any preacher say that at the end of his sermon at the church I attended before.

Plain and simple, you believe and practice what you want and I will do likewise. I will also fight for you to worship in your manner as long as it does not harm me in any way. However, if I feel so convicted of my beliefs and the happiness they have brought me please do not feel offended if I attempt to share them with you.

 

[KidViciou$]

what's with the magic underwear?