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ivan2

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Guys i wonder how these yearly subcription works, I have been using the Norton AV Enterprice (or corp) that i downloaded from my school for years and I have have to subscribe into anything to upgrade it's definition.

I have never run into any directly related problem with that version of Norton AV I had, and I had used 7.0 and 8.0. I wonder which part of the system does it usually break?
 

ovenmitt

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Originally posted by: BS911
Originally posted by: Ginfest
Originally posted by: oldfart
Does the free version of AVG insert ads into your email as this site claims?

This is the standard "ad" that appears in emails:


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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004

I have to say that after using both Norton and MacAfee over the years that you can't beat AVG, both in price (free version) and functionality (both versions) w/o adding a bunch of crap and overhead to the system.


Mike G

All you have to do to get rid of the "AD" in AVG is go into options under the e-mail scanner tab and turn off "Certify Incoming Mail" and "Certify Outgoing Mail"!

-BS911

So, is there a way to have AVG scan email without sticking an advertisement into it? I have & like AVG, but IMO I prefer my AV solution to not stick crap into the emails it scans. Then again, AVG is free...
 

WT

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So, is there a way to have AVG scan email without sticking an advertisement into it? I have & like AVG, but IMO I prefer my AV solution to not stick crap into the emails it scans. Then again, AVG is free...

What part of this did you not comprehend ?
All you have to do to get rid of the "AD" in AVG is go into options under the e-mail scanner tab and turn off "Certify Incoming Mail" and "Certify Outgoing Mail"!

I think AVG is an excellent product, hampered by older reviews found on the net of an older AVG build. When I build PCs and install it for people, they invariably ask why its free and that it must be crap if its free. They are all so paranoid about any sort of free programs that they are sure its not beneficial. Now normally, thats a good thing, but they usually click on any old banner ad masquerading as a Windows error message (Your PC clock may be off, fix it by clicking here !!!! .. Your IP address is visible, making you the likely target of a hacker. Click here to fix it !!)

Lets get this straight ... there are no ads in AVG if you turn off email certification. Hotmail .. yes, AVG ... no.
 

MangoTBG

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Originally posted by: WT
So, is there a way to have AVG scan email without sticking an advertisement into it? I have & like AVG, but IMO I prefer my AV solution to not stick crap into the emails it scans. Then again, AVG is free...

What part of this did you not comprehend ?
All you have to do to get rid of the "AD" in AVG is go into options under the e-mail scanner tab and turn off "Certify Incoming Mail" and "Certify Outgoing Mail"!

I think AVG is an excellent product, hampered by older reviews found on the net of an older AVG build. When I build PCs and install it for people, they invariably ask why its free and that it must be crap if its free. They are all so paranoid about any sort of free programs that they are sure its not beneficial. Now normally, thats a good thing, but they usually click on any old banner ad masquerading as a Windows error message (Your PC clock may be off, fix it by clicking here !!!! .. Your IP address is visible, making you the likely target of a hacker. Click here to fix it !!)

Lets get this straight ... there are no ads in AVG if you turn off email certification. Hotmail .. yes, AVG ... no.

By turning off email certification you do lose the AD. However, along with losing the AD you lose the certification of emails. AVG does not scan emails if you turn off email certification. To my knowledge there is no way to both scan the emails and be ad-free in the free version of AVG.
 

WT

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Mango, I stand corrected. Sorry about that, but I just mis-read the posters question and comment. I even thought that AVG did in fact scan email regardless of that message, but I am the type that deletes ANY and all attachments, regardless of what AVG scans or doesn't scan.
It just irks me that so many AVG threads refer to that old ass review from some guy who seems to have wormed his way to the top of the Google search list when 'AVG review' is used as the search phrase.
 

RVN

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Warning: TC Ahead:

NAV 2004 bombed! What will this one do???

...not hot.
 

Fant

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I've installed and used Nav2004 on several machines all running XP and havent run into a single problem. This includes a range of laptops and desktops. And I know many others using it with no problems. True the newer versions feel like they are more resource hogs than the older versions. With microsoft already announced that they are working on an integrated antivirus solution NAV is gonna have to work hard to convince users to switch to their solution.
 

Slickone

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I still use NAV2002 since people were saying 2003 was causing them problems and had an aggresive install. I thought 2004 was supposed to fix these. Did it not?

Does AVG add the same viruses to their definitions as NAV, and as quickly?
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Rorschach
Norton AV is like the Patriot Act - it causes more damage than the attacks it's trying to prevent. I hate it when I have to help someone with their computer and they have Norton, that sucker infiltrates everything.

I use AVG, it's free and has worked well for me. I have it updating every night and it also filters email and files in real time.

http://www.grisoft.com

I've recommended AVG for a while now. A lot of people ask me why they haven't heard of AVG if it's just as good as Norton. My response, "well, since it's free, do you think they can afford a large advertising budget??" Then, I give them examples of other software that has pay and free versions... usually I find one or two things that they have (Winamp or something).
 

gard

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Hi,

I've never used AVG before and am curious to try after reading the posts above. However, I am a little concerned about a couple of the notices on their download page:

- AVG Free Edition offer is valid for all SINGLE HOME users only.
- AVG Free Edition CAN NOT BE INSTALLED ON SERVERS FOR ANY REASON. IT CAN NOT BE INSTALLED IN ANY NETWORKED ENVIRONMENT

What is a SINGLE HOME user? I can't install it on my pc and my wife's pc at home? Just one pc at a time?

What's with the restriction on networked environment? Outr 2 PCs are on the same subnet with a router. That's a no-no?

gard
 

hansmuff

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Originally posted by: Ginfest
Originally posted by: oldfart
Does the free version of AVG insert ads into your email as this site claims?
This is the standard "ad" that appears in emails:
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004

I have to say that after using both Norton and MacAfee over the years that you can't beat AVG, both in price (free version) and functionality (both versions) w/o adding a bunch of crap and overhead to the system.

I *much* agree. AVG free edition is incredible. Also AFAIK you do not *have* to let it scan your email. I use Mozilla for email and I only read mail from trusted sources, don't open attachments I don't know about. I don't need anything to scan my email. So my outgoing mails are just as I wrote them up.
 

hansmuff

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Originally posted by: gard
Hi,

I've never used AVG before and am curious to try after reading the posts above. However, I am a little concerned about a couple of the notices on their download page:
- AVG Free Edition offer is valid for all SINGLE HOME users only.
- AVG Free Edition CAN NOT BE INSTALLED ON SERVERS FOR ANY REASON. IT CAN NOT BE INSTALLED IN ANY NETWORKED ENVIRONMENT
What is a SINGLE HOME user? I can't install it on my pc and my wife's pc at home? Just one pc at a time?
What's with the restriction on networked environment? Outr 2 PCs are on the same subnet with a router. That's a no-no?
gard

That's not a problem. It will install and run just fine. They don't want offices and company networks running the free edition is all.
I have 4 PCs behind a router, all running AVG, all on the same subnet. No problem at all. As long as you use it for "home use" and not professional/office use, you're fine.
 

chuckyH

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The problems with the old avg that this reviewer was refering to we a problem with the old version on win 98 wich should not be a problem since we are not using that version or probably even win98
 

Threader

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Rorschach
Norton AV is like the Patriot Act - it causes more damage than the attacks it's trying to prevent. I hate it when I have to help someone with their computer and they have Norton, that sucker infiltrates everything.

I use AVG, it's free and has worked well for me. I have it updating every night and it also filters email and files in real time.

http://www.grisoft.com

I've recommended AVG for a while now. A lot of people ask me why they haven't heard of AVG if it's just as good as Norton. My response, "well, since it's free, do you think they can afford a large advertising budget??" Then, I give them examples of other software that has pay and free versions... usually I find one or two things that they have (Winamp or something).

I always recommend AVG and common sense to my friends and families.
 

Matt L

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I've got McAfee on a couple of computers, Norton on a couple and AVG on another. MCAfee is the program of choice for me, and I might like AVG but I can't get it to update the virus files. I guess it doesn't like the fact I don't have IE installed on that computer, only Fire Fox and Opera. It's also networked and I always got a message that it can't find a network connection, please open a browser so it can find it, but I doesn't work. I don't know if the problem with AVG is being on a network or the lack of IE. Anyone else have a similar setup?
 

rseiler

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Anyone who downloaded this originally will want to go get it again, since it was updated (same build number) mid-week to correct some serious issues.
 

MrCoyote

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If only more people supported developers, and actually paid for their software, we could have better software. But no, most people want free, Free, FREE. Gimme, gimme, gimme FREE! This just hurts developers. Luckily Norton wised up, and included product activation in their current products. This should get more people to buy their product, instead of bootlegging. Personally, I've never had any issues whatsoever with Norton software. I've owned versions of their Antivirus and Systemworks Pro, since the DOS days.

P.S.
You may wonder, why I support Product activation and copy protection?
Answer: Because I'm a developer too. It takes too much damn time to develop software these days, even with the best development tools. Now we have to spend our time on different ways to stop copying software. (Product Activation, time-limits, etc...) If people appreciate using my software, I would like something in return. $$$ I got bills to pay too.

The same can be said about the state of the music industry... *sigh*
Support developers and pay for their software, even if it's "free/shareware".
 

Rorschach

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By turning off email certification you do lose the AD. However, along with losing the AD you lose the certification of emails. AVG does not scan emails if you turn off email certification. To my knowledge there is no way to both scan the emails and be ad-free in the free version of AVG.

I'm using AVG 6.0 and in the section under 'Email Scanner' it gives me 4 options:

Check incoming mail
Certify incoming mail
Check outgoing mail
Certify outgoing mail

I turned off the 'certify' options, it still scans email going both ways though cause I have the 'check' options enabled. I've never had it find anything in an outgoing email but it finds lot of stuff in spam and I'm pretty confident that my mail is thoroughly checked.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: Ginfest
Originally posted by: oldfart
Does the free version of AVG insert ads into your email as this site claims?

This is the standard "ad" that appears in emails:


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004

I have to say that after using both Norton and MacAfee over the years that you can't beat AVG, both in price (free version) and functionality (both versions) w/o adding a bunch of crap and overhead to the system.


Mike G


Hmmm...been using Norton AV for years and have never had a problem. I do turn off that "check compressed files before opening" option in 2004, but other than that it works well in our office. Our mail server also runs their filtering package and it's never failed us. Too each his own I guess.

AVG does work well though. It's a bit of a pain to get it activated (lots of "Register, check your email, download file, get the code from email, etc....type stuff), but it does work.
 

blueribb

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I just uninstalled Norton 2004 Pro and installed AVG's latest a few minutes ago.

I completed scanning my entire hard drive in 35 minutes and it found 1 virus but didn't remove or quarantine it !

It identified it as: "Java/ByteVerify" and showed me the location as: C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\jpi_cache\JAR\1.0\counter.jar-77f23ab8-770e1443.zip:\BB.cla

It also said "Still Infected".

I have no clue what to do at this point.

Also, Norton would pick-up tons of viruses in my incoming email before I even checked my email and AVG doesn't seem to do that. I wonder if AVG will check files downloaded from Kazaa automatically or do I have to scan each one manually ?

At this point, Norton was a hog and slowed down my system boot but AVG doesn't seem to be as effective.

Any comments ?
 
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