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webley

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I hope this isn't used on a poor kid with a broken prefrontal cortex (functioning needed to stop him or herself from doing bad behaviors), or attention deficit disorders or other brain malfunctions. Unfortunately, not everyone has the natural ability to simply "not do bad behaviors", even if bad outcomes like spankings become associated with them. I've read some experts suggest that spanking shouldn't be used on any child as a standard punishment, instead using privilege denial or non-physical consequences as the main approach and spanking only as a last resort, if at all.

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Buttzilla

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baah! who needs a paddle. my mom used to use a wooden spoon, plus, we have plenty of branches out back.
 

dakels

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This is a debate for OT that could go on for months. There is not clear wrong or right outside the bounds of downright torture or what the law considers illegal. We all share different values on the way in which we dicipline our kids.

as for the specific topic of a deal, not that I would use an instrument to hit anyone, but if I did, I don't think $5.75 is a deal when branches are free In fact if you really want to terrorize your kids then take time making your own paddle. Put alot of effort into it and let your kids see every minute of progress. lol Even if you never intended to use it, it would probably scare the crap out of your kids to know you spent all this time carving some beating device intended for them.

but again, thats just hypothetical to me because I don't believe that fear and intimidation is the way to manage your children. This only creates an environment where the children will only fear the repurcussions, not truely understand why they were wrong. Like the saying that it's only wrong if you get caught. Well I believe people should think more ethicly and responsibly then that. Yukichigai's comment about making them do laborious chores as punishment is part of a much more effective manner in which to discipline your children IMO. My father was pretty seriously abused as a child and those wounds never totally healed between him and his father. But it also didnt make my father abusive or a wuss either and probably was partly a cause for him to choose his profession, a police officer. I grew up knowing that I would be spanked or slapped if I did something very very wrong. But the normal course of action was grounding, excess chores with no allowance, and of course, probably the most effective, the guilt trip. I think alot of people agree that some of the worst moments was not when you parents screamed and hollered and spanked/hit you, but the moments when you parents were so upset that they didnt even know what to do with you. The moments when you saw the anguish on your parents face and knew how much you hurt them. That was the worst punishment and by far the most effective in teaching me what was wrong and right.

Being a mature adult is knowing and understanding the ramifications of your actions and taking responsibility for them. I think that my parents did a good job in raising a responsible adult with good moral values and they didn't needed a paddle to do it.
 

cmsanto

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Not a hot deal at all. Having been raised in an abusive household and seeing the emotional scars left on my sister especially, this item totally repulses me. When I was young the more abuse my parents gave me, the more I rebelled, until I eventually just left. I was strong enough to understand that the abuse was more based on a combination of cultural background and ignorance than any other reason, my sister on the other hand has serious issues that are deep and still unresolved. I did have to deal with a substance abuse problem during my teens and early twenties, I blame that I my upbringing. Physical punishment is the easy way out - to intimidate and bully your kids into good behavior instead of a more positive approach, but it is detrimental to good emotional health.

Here is an example of a hot deal, a fee deal, one that keeps on giving in emotional well being. The key here is that you start right when the kid is born - and it requires a lot of time. Time spent away from hanging out with buddies, or away from your favorite sports team. You start off by reading to your kid or kids every day. You play with your kid, and listen and participate with enthusiasm. This is how I raised my daughter who is now twelve. Today she sees positive reinforcement as rewards- verbal reinforcements as well as physical reward such as video and pc games, eating out, and general unexpected gifts. She sees negative, and this is rare - no favorite tv show, no computer time, when she she is not so good. She is a great kid she has received first honors every school year (my sister was just as good at school). Both my spouse and I get heavily involved with her day to day stuff, we discuss everything from her Friends to the music she listens too. We stay up on everything she is doing on the pc and participate and acknowledge her interests with respect and understanding. My daughter, if at all possible, will not have "issues" with her parents when she is an adult.
 

JJMcKay

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finally! someone's offended! took long enough.

Originally posted by: cmsanto
Not a hot deal at all. Having been raised in an abusive household and seeing the emotional scars left on my sister especially, this item totally repulses me. When I was young the more abuse my parents gave me, the more I rebelled, until I eventually just left. I was strong enough to understand that the abuse was more based on a combination of cultural background and ignorance than any other reason, my sister on the other hand has serious issues that are deep and still unresolved. I did have to deal with a substance abuse problem during my teens and early twenties, I blame that I my upbringing. Physical punishment is the easy way out - to intimidate and bully your kids into good behavior instead of a more positive approach, but it is detrimental to good emotional health.

Here is an example of a hot deal, a fee deal, one that keeps on giving in emotional well being. The key here is that you start right when the kid is born - and it requires a lot of time. Time spent away from hanging out with buddies, or away from your favorite sports team. You start off by reading to your kid or kids every day. You play with your kid, and listen and participate with enthusiasm. This is how I raised my daughter who is now twelve. Today she sees positive reinforcement as rewards- verbal reinforcements as well as physical reward such as video and pc games, eating out, and general unexpected gifts. She sees negative, and this is rare - no favorite tv show, no computer time, when she she is not so good. She is a great kid she has received first honors every school year (my sister was just as good at school). Both my spouse and I get heavily involved with her day to day stuff, we discuss everything from her Friends to the music she listens too. We stay up on everything she is doing on the pc and participate and acknowledge her interests with respect and understanding. My daughter, if at all possible, will not have "issues" with her parents when she is an adult.

 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: PG
Do you people believe everything you read on the net?

Yes. By the way, did you know the government is monitoring our brain patterns with cybernetically enhanced squirrels?

And as a child who endured a few spankings in my younger years -- only for really bad things, like that time I took a baseball bat to the car -- I can tell you that the only effect spanking had on me is that now I... y'know... crave a good spanking.

....

What? Don't stare at me. It's a perfectly acceptable thing nowadays. Damn prudes.
 

RIGorous1

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Originally posted by: cmsanto
Not a hot deal at all. Having been raised in an abusive household and seeing the emotional scars left on my sister especially, this item totally repulses me. When I was young the more abuse my parents gave me, the more I rebelled, until I eventually just left. I was strong enough to understand that the abuse was more based on a combination of cultural background and ignorance than any other reason, my sister on the other hand has serious issues that are deep and still unresolved. I did have to deal with a substance abuse problem during my teens and early twenties, I blame that I my upbringing. Physical punishment is the easy way out - to intimidate and bully your kids into good behavior instead of a more positive approach, but it is detrimental to good emotional health.

Here is an example of a hot deal, a fee deal, one that keeps on giving in emotional well being. The key here is that you start right when the kid is born - and it requires a lot of time. Time spent away from hanging out with buddies, or away from your favorite sports team. You start off by reading to your kid or kids every day. You play with your kid, and listen and participate with enthusiasm. This is how I raised my daughter who is now twelve. Today she sees positive reinforcement as rewards- verbal reinforcements as well as physical reward such as video and pc games, eating out, and general unexpected gifts. She sees negative, and this is rare - no favorite tv show, no computer time, when she she is not so good. She is a great kid she has received first honors every school year (my sister was just as good at school). Both my spouse and I get heavily involved with her day to day stuff, we discuss everything from her Friends to the music she listens too. We stay up on everything she is doing on the pc and participate and acknowledge her interests with respect and understanding. My daughter, if at all possible, will not have "issues" with her parents when she is an adult.

Preach on brother man! Preach on!

AMEN.

 

dakels

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Originally posted by: bolomite
heh, look at the dude w/ his son:

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wonder how many times that kid has gotten the paddle
I'm sure it's just a plain old snapshot and all but that kid looks like he's been hit one too many times... Look at the expression on his face, like his father said "Get in this picture and smile or you're getting the paddle again!"

"yes dad, whatever you say dad"

this is archaic and sad.
 

SilverEdge

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nice deal good price, these always turn into political issues,
the funniest thing to me is the minority always seems to win these types of things. If it weren't for a good spanking everynow and then I'd be a thief and drug dealer(or worse). But now kids can place law suits on thier parents for just threating to spank them and win.....or rather lose, they lose thier lifestyle, they lose thier parents, they lose all thier friends, many lose thier self-respect, most use their money for irresponsible uses, and end up on the streets or in foster care(where they finally get spanked in some cases without a judge to back the kids). I'm not saying abusive parents shouldn't have thier kids taken away, but come on this is similar to the McD's french fry incident. I personally loved thier old french fries now I won't eat there because they tast like Sh!t, and all because some twit said they were killing him. I'd like to force a box of fries down his throat and clog his pie hole, maybe then the fat bastard would lose some weight.....I'd spank him but then I'd be frowned upon, it's ok for me to kill some one (5-10 years imprisonment for the 1st offense)but heaven forbid I discipline my child(life in prison without perole in many cases for thie 1st offense)
edit: continuing my ranting....
In the early days, like Moses' time, if a kid struck his parent, the parent was required by LAW to have the child stoned, if the child stole he would either be stoned, or have his hands cut off. the list of things that would seem barbaric today went on and on. needless to say, their isn't much in old texts about unruly children.
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
nice deal good price, these always turn into political issues,
the funniest thing to me is the minority always seems to win these types of things. If it weren't for a good spanking everynow and then I'd be a thief and drug dealer(or worse). But now kids can place law suits on thier parents for just threating to spank them and win.....or rather lose, they lose thier lifestyle, they lose thier parents, they lose all thier friends, many lose thier self-respect, most use their money for irresponsible uses, and end up on the streets or in foster care(where they finally get spanked in some cases without a judge to back the kids). I'm not saying abusive parents shouldn't have thier kids taken away, but come on this is similar to the McD's french fry incident. I personally loved thier old french fries now I won't eat there because they tast like Sh!t, and all because some twit said they were killing him. I'd like to force a box of fries down his throat and clog his pie hole, maybe then the fat bastard would lose some weight.....I'd spank him but then I'd be frowned upon, it's ok for me to kill some one (5-10 years imprisonment for the 1st offense)but heaven forbid I discipline my child(life in prison without perole in many cases for thie 1st offense)
edit: continuing my ranting....
In the early days, like Moses' time, if a kid struck his parent, the parent was required by LAW to have the child stoned, if the child stole he would either be stoned, or have his hands cut off. the list of things that would seem barbaric today went on and on. needless to say, their isn't much in old texts about unruly children.
you're actually going to compare the current laws to the laws from 2000 years ago? Why don't you just put down that we all should have our own slave servants to barter and do what we wish. Lets go plunder and pillage and rape the women and children of the neighboring town too. That sounds like fun . Hey if your kid gets out of line, just tie him to a post and have your neighbors throw rocks at them until their internal organs hemorage enough to bleed to death. Thats the way things should be done around here! Teach those dumb kids a lesson they will never forget! or have a chance to remember cuz they'll be dead! ha ha ha ha!

ok sarcasm off. Seriously, you cannot say for 100% certainty that your parents not spanking you would have lead to you being a social degenerate. You have not been raised in an environment with no spanking and good moral feedback so therefore you cannot make such a statement. That is unless you have some magic parrallel universe device that I don't know about. You are a product of your environment and the descisions you make based on the knowledge provided to you. If you are an upstanding person then that was a product of good rearing, spanking included or not. Spanking in and of itself is meant to be a tool of enforcement. Like any tool or method, there are always alternatives. I know many people who were never spanked yet are extremely well mannered. And I know many people who were spanked often and are total degenerates. And vice versa. It is the sum of of parenting, environment, and ultimately your choices you make as a product of those circumstances which makes you who you are. We can only hope as caring parents that we made the right choices in raising our children, choices with outcomes that we cannot predict with 100% accuracy. We just do what we feel is right and hope for the best.

 

LongCoolMother

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look, some people find corporal punishment good and effective. other people are against it. personally, i think a kid needs a good spanking now and then if they do something bad that warrants it.
 

SuperShaz

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Whats great about these kinds of arguments is that both sides are correct. Its funny how both sides think that what they are doing is best for their kids and that the other side is wrong.

In my opinion, simply caring passionately about how your kids are raised is what makes the difference. There a lot of people out there that don't care. That don't try to raise their kids to have discipline. There are so many times I'll be at a restaurant or other public place where some kid is completely out of control and the parents are doing absolutely nothing about it. Its almost like they've said "I dont care that my kid is obnoxious. I just don't care. I've given up." I will always turn to my friends and say "That kid needs a paddlin". But what I really mean is that the kid needs a parent who is willing to discipline them, however they choose to do it.

And please, don't use "My parents abused me to the point that I hated them" as an argument against paddling. Thats like condemning alcohol because of a few alcoholics. Just because you know someone who did it wrong doesn't mean the rest of us are doing it wrong.

One more thing. I'd rather pay $5 for a wooden paddle than have to go outside and find a suitable stick and bring it into the house. What are you guys, animals? Why pay the water bill when you have a creek in your backyard? You can just clean up, drink, and release bodily fluids in the creek. I do wish the paddle had holes in it though. Less air resistance.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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