Free speech dies in Canada, Bill C-16 has passed the House of Commons (gender pronouns/hatespeech)

0roo0roo

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http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1157029
"“Today, I am very proud that Bill C-16 has passed the House of Commons. This Bill would amend the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. It also proposes to amend the Criminal Code to add gender identity or expression to the definition of "identifiable group" for the purpose of the hate propaganda offences and to the list of aggravating circumstances for hate-crime sentencing."

As with all well meaning legislation in the past, the repercussions will result in repression. This is a country which has had a twitter trial, and has fined comedians tens of thousands of dollars over people being offended, but they don't learn.

Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin: Gender Pronouns and the Free Speech War (Full Interview)

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UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO - BILL C-16 Debate
 

MajinCry

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Oh no, we can no longer act like completely horrid cunts to women, transgenders and hermaphrodites! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the sexists!?

Edit: Relevant.

 
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Moonbeam

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With great freedom comes great responsibility. When one side gets out of whack so does the other. You can't join the Nazi party in Germany anymore a decision that had it been made earlier would have perhaps prevented on the order of 50 million deaths.
 

Blue_Max

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*sigh* You know this is going to abused the heck out of by every progressive college weenie.

[obvious man in a dress] "Please use my proper pronoun 'debwee' or 'debwizz'"
"...that's stupid."
"You have to or I'll have you arrested for hate crime!"


The only response to this is to demand the same bullsh*t in return, like the college guy who wrote his official pronoun as "Your Majesty".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-their-gender-pronouns-one-chose-his-majesty/
 

lopri

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Wisdom of banning hate speech is debatable, but from what I can tell this bill is not something new to Canadians? It looks like they merely added "Gender Identity/Expression" to the existing law where other types of hate speech had been already regulated.
 

Commodus

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Heavens! Canadians won't have the legal right to treat transgender people as subhuman! Whatever will they do? Oh, right... they'll just treat transgender people as human beings deserving of the same basic respect that everyone should always receive.

And a friendly reminder: you're still allowed to have those hateful anti-transgender views in Canada, or to make uncaring remarks (intentionally or not). You just can't let that hate influence your business, or create content designed primarily to incite hate. A conservative Christian group can say it doesn't believe transgender people are right about their identities; it can't tell its followers to discriminate against and harass the transgender community.

It'd be wonderful if the transphobes here actually read what the law says, instead of conjuring up an Orwellian straw man. Canadians are not living under some terrible yoke of oppression -- they just believe that free speech doesn't extend to the point where you're impinging on the freedoms of others.
 

JSt0rm

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Heavens! Canadians won't have the legal right to treat transgender people as subhuman! Whatever will they do? Oh, right... they'll just treat transgender people as human beings deserving of the same basic respect that everyone should always receive.

And a friendly reminder: you're still allowed to have those hateful anti-transgender views in Canada, or to make uncaring remarks (intentionally or not). You just can't let that hate influence your business, or create content designed primarily to incite hate. A conservative Christian group can say it doesn't believe transgender people are right about their identities; it can't tell its followers to discriminate against and harass the transgender community.

It'd be wonderful if the transphobes here actually read what the law says, instead of conjuring up an Orwellian straw man. Canadians are not living under some terrible yoke of oppression -- they just believe that free speech doesn't extend to the point where you're impinging on the freedoms of others.


Without being able to openly hate on transgender people they will be too tempted to become transgender themselves.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1157029
"“Today, I am very proud that Bill C-16 has passed the House of Commons. This Bill would amend the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination. It also proposes to amend the Criminal Code to add gender identity or expression to the definition of "identifiable group" for the purpose of the hate propaganda offences and to the list of aggravating circumstances for hate-crime sentencing."

As with all well meaning legislation in the past, the repercussions will result in repression. This is a country which has had a twitter trial, and has fined comedians tens of thousands of dollars over people being offended, but they don't learn.

Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin: Gender Pronouns and the Free Speech War (Full Interview)

from today
UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO - BILL C-16 Debate

Deplorable parrot.
 

gamervivek

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This is a country which has had a twitter trial,

It was even more of a farce,

Then suddenly, after almost three hours into the day’s hearing, the Crown started crying. She grabbed a tissue from across the table, dabbed her eyes and apologized to the judge saying she was upset over a personal issue. The judge shut-down the hearing to reconvene on October 6th- the date originally scheduled for the final ruling on Elliott’s innocence or guilt.

https://archive.is/dQ0TK#selection-467.0-467.366

As for this Canadian lunacy, you have to give them back in kind because at this point that's all they can comprehend,

 
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