Free Speech or Too Far?

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ImpulsE69

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Very true that's only my opinion of her comedic approach.
Facts are that her failed attempt at shock comedy for recognition backfired and was forced to grovel.

Yea. The thing is though, this stuff only gains traction if you make a big deal out of it. Everyone could have just ignored it and it would still be a backfire. Not everyone is going to agree on whether it is too far or not, but calling attention to it as over the top because it offends 'you' <general public> doesn't make it go away, it brings it into the limelight. The problem with people who are easily offended, they are usually the same people who are in everyone's business telling them what they can and cannot do rather than just ignoring it and moving on.
 
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Sea Ray

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I didn't say it was called for or if it wasn't. In fact, you claimed that his actions were irrelevant, as if you understand the reasoning behind her display despite claiming that you don't care. I'm simply wondering why you think someone would do something crazy like this without a reason. Is this evangelical "god made this happen for some reason" kind of thinking, or what?

You know people tend to act on motivations, right?

and of course you don't care, and I think that is her point. Now you're paying attention. Most humans would respond "Gee, that guy must have done something..." but not the bobbleheads grazing at Hair Fuhrer's nutsack. In your minds, he is above reproach, completely infallible. You are probably unreachable, as you have been conditioned out of self reflection and cognitive thought that isn't filtered through various conservative information channels.

Why would she do such a crazy thing? Because she's a failed comedian who's looking for attention
 

Sea Ray

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You might've noticed quite a few people parrot all the same things as the other degenerates, then pretending to be anything but to no one's surprise.

By climbing on guys like jMagg you're eating your own. Don't you realize you need folks like that on your side if you're going to regain power?
 

thraashman

Lifer
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Why would she do such a crazy thing? Because she's a failed comedian who's looking for attention
She's a has been perhaps, but not failed. She had a successful enough career that most of us had at least heard of her before this. Can't say I ever found her funny though.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
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Kathy Griffen thinks too much. First, she thought she was funny. Then, she thought she was satirical. Now, she thinks she's relevant.

No, I think Kathy understood how completely irrelevant she had become. She went from the D List to the F- List and was dangerously close to winding up at the Hollywood "who the hell are they?" table with Pauly Shore and the kid who played Anakin Skywalker in the first prequel. This is her desperate Hail Mary attempt to get back into the public eye by any means possible. And it worked, she got herself another 15 minutes. A year from now she might have to do something even more shocking to remind people that she's still alive. Maybe she'll appear in some Brazilian snuff porn.
 

jmagg

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You might've noticed quite a few people parrot all the same things as the other degenerates, then pretending to be anything but to no one's surprise.

agent00f with all his enlightenment is still confused
 

agent00f

Lifer
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By climbing on guys like jMagg you're eating your own. Don't you realize you need folks like that on your side if you're going to regain power?

Yeah I'm sure people who have nothing good to say about liberalism are just hankering for a liberal win.

No, I think Kathy understood how completely irrelevant she had become. She went from the D List to the F- List and was dangerously close to winding up at the Hollywood "who the hell are they?" table with Pauly Shore and the kid who played Anakin Skywalker in the first prequel. This is her desperate Hail Mary attempt to get back into the public eye by any means possible. And it worked, she got herself another 15 minutes. A year from now she might have to do something even more shocking to remind people that she's still alive. Maybe she'll appear in some Brazilian snuff porn.

If celebrity is your key metric, she's evidently popular enough to host on CNN so what does that make you in comparison?
 

bshole

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I would equate this action to be roughly equivalent to people making targets of Obama's face. If someone is outraged about Trump's head I would expect them to be equally outraged over Obama targets.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Death threats can have that effect.

But Trump supporters aren't violent, we've been reassured that the evil regressives are the violent nutjobs.
 
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Smoblikat

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Meanwhile it is a standard joke on Jungle Cruise in fucking Walt Disney World...

Not saying I thought what KG was funny or smart, I don't at all, but you can't blanket say that it could never be comedy.

Good thing I didnt say it could never be comedy, I said I would never do it to be comical. Out of curiosity, whose decapitated effigy is on display in disney world?
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Yea. The thing is though, this stuff only gains traction if you make a big deal out of it. Everyone could have just ignored it and it would still be a backfire. Not everyone is going to agree on whether it is too far or not, but calling attention to it as over the top because it offends 'you' <general public> doesn't make it go away, it brings it into the limelight. The problem with people who are easily offended, they are usually the same people who are in everyone's business telling them what they can and cannot do rather than just ignoring it and moving on.

They're about as "offended" by this as they were by Steven Colbert, iow not at all. It's just that clutching at their pearls might get them what they want, so they do; degenerates gonna degenerate.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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You might've noticed quite a few people parrot all the same things as the other degenerates, then pretending to be anything but to no one's surprise.

You mean pretending to be smart and honest and asking for evidences but having none to provide? Who could be that liar? Oh, it is YOU!!!. And that is not my opinion but fact from your own words.
 

edcoolio

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Pictures from a recent photo shoot done by comedian Kathy Griffin show her holding a severed, bloody head that is supposed to be that of Trump.

Curious on thoughts of the good people of AT. Personally, this strikes me as a too far. If this were Obama I'm sure it would be called inappropriate by many.

Pics at link.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/30/kathy-griffin-beheads-donald-trump-photo-tyler-shields/

100% up to her and her right.

100% other people can react however they want, as long as they do not touch anyone else.

"Advocating violence" and "Hate Crimes" are both way to far into the realm of "RightThink" and "Future Crime" in their current form. All of those laws should be abolished as unconstitutional, immediately. Remember, we are not talking about the combination: specific threat of violence, motive, timing, opportunity, date, etc., but rather guesswork combined with bad or non-politically-correct words.

1st Amendment gives you the right to publish technical papers on CPU design, it also give you the right to be a moron.
 
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Svnla

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well I was gaging your grasp of english by your sig and, well, it ain't pretty. plus it shows you to be pretty much an all around dick

Hey, at least I don't throw accusations toward other posters without anything to back up my statements. Just saying.

Don't like my sig? Choke on it.

How is my engrish? Bite me.
 
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Hey, at least I don't throw accusations toward other posters without anything to back up my statements. Just saying.

Don't like my sig? Choke on it.

How is my engrish? Bite me.
gosh, you're just a welcoming ray of sunshine in this bleak internet landscape. mommy and daddy are so proud of the craps you don't take.
 
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Svnla

Lifer
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gosh, you're just a welcoming ray of sunshine in this bleak internet landscape. mommy and daddy are so proud of the craps you don't take.

Do you have anything to say beside ad hom attack?

Oh look, I am not crazy about your sig either but you don't see me whine and bitch about your sig or anyone else like low life bitches like you guys, right?
 
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