You're spending a lot of time arguing something I did not say. I said he would be in no position to demand it. I said nothing about being deserved. You really have a hard time arguing what people actually say don't you?
You're spending a lot of time arguing something I did not say. I said he would be in no position to demand it. I said nothing about being deserved. You really have a hard time arguing what people actually say don't you?You said it yourself when you said that no apology was necessary to Trump.
So because Trump's a loser he doesn't deserve an apology from anyone ever. Sorry. There's no "sanity" in that take. Go get checked out for Trump derangement syndrome. Mental illness is covered under Obamacare
If it'd happened to Obama the entire nation would've ground to a halt.
Where I come from if I wrong someone that someone deserves an apology from me. Simple as that. You have different standards based upon whether you think they're upstanding individuals. That's nuts and it excuses this behavior.Nobody's supporting this either! You're not attempting to even read the words people say. Meanwhile, regarding Madonna, you'll note that there's a big gulf between saying "I thought about this but realized that it was ridiculous and unproductive" and Nugent saying "I want to do this". Your utter imperviousness to nuance doesn't make anybody else into hypocrites, sorry.
Do unto others. It's apology worthy but someone who makes a policy of never apologizing is owed an apology less than more upstanding individuals.
Uhmm, if anyone is acting crazy in this thread it's you. Almost everyone, liberals included, has condemned what Griffin did and yet you're desperately trying to pretend there's some sort of double standard happening here.
Seriously, talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome, you're so committed to your political sports team that you are inventing a reality to fight against.
Where I come from if I wrong someone that someone deserves an apology from me. Simple as that. You have different standards based upon whether you think they're upstanding individuals. That's nuts and it excuses this behavior.
Uhmm, if anyone is acting crazy in this thread it's you. Almost everyone, liberals included, has condemned what Griffin did and yet you're desperately trying to pretend there's some sort of double standard happening here.
Seriously, talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome, you're so committed to your political sports team that you are inventing a reality to fight against.
I'd say this crossed the line (in terms of taste and baseline respect, not free speech laws). Many people have justifiable reasons to hate Trump, but you don't need to suggest beheading. At least Griffin was quick to apologize... now if only we could get the Ann Coulters and Sean Hannitys of the world to do the same.
Maybe once Donald Trump apologizes for completely seriously calling for the death of five innocent teenagers people will be more willing to apologize for jokes made about his death. That seems reasonable, wouldn't you say?
Pink Floyd's The Wall is one of my all time favorite albums and you could probably make a bet and win that Roger performed quite a few songs from that album with that big ass sign behind him.
Where I come from, when you declare you will offer no quarter, then you shall receive no quarter. Simple as that.Where I come from if I wrong someone that someone deserves an apology from me. Simple as that. You have different standards based upon whether you think they're upstanding individuals. That's nuts and it excuses this behavior.
Are you going to answer this?She was quick to apologize to her fans; not to Trump or his son Barron. That's not an apology if you don't give it to the agrieved party. It's just a plea to save her job.
Maybe once Donald Trump apologizes for completely seriously calling for the death of five innocent teenagers people will be more willing to apologize for jokes made about his death. That seems reasonable, wouldn't you say?
Absolutely not. He deserves a no strings attached apology. That you want to make it dependent upon some unrelated incident says an awful lot about you.
If it'd happened to Obama the entire nation would've ground to a halt.
Where I come from, when you declare you will offer no quarter, then you shall receive no quarter. Simple as that.
I'd say this crossed the line (in terms of taste and baseline respect, not free speech laws). Many people have justifiable reasons to hate Trump, but you don't need to suggest beheading. At least Griffin was quick to apologize... now if only we could get the Ann Coulters and Sean Hannitys of the world to do the same.
This is how Roger Waters opened his show in Kansas City, apparently a few snowflakes got upset
This is quite a pattern on P&N. Like in the indictments thread, where nearly every liberal is skeptical of Louise Mensch, but conservatives are on about how unhinged we are for believing her. When straw men is all you have, that really says something.
This last year has been so unreal, I am beginning to drift toward the idea we are living in a simulation.Observing all the hardcore right wingers belittle others for any emotional reaction to something their heroes do, engage in the same behavior and not realize they are doing it? This cannot be real.Yeah I don't see how this is hard to understand. While Griffin should apologize to Trump for her own sake Trump is in no position to demand an apology from anyone when it comes to death jokes/threats considering his own behavior.
Absolutely not. He deserves a no strings attached apology. That you want to make it dependent upon some unrelated incident says an awful lot about you.
This last year has been so unreal, I am beginning to drift toward the idea we are living in a simulation.Observing all the hardcore right wingers belittle others for any emotional reaction to something their heroes do, engage in the same behavior and not realize they are doing it? This cannot be real.
This last year has been so unreal, I am beginning to drift toward the idea we are living in a simulation.Observing all the hardcore right wingers belittle others for any emotional reaction to something their heroes do, engage in the same behavior and not realize they are doing it? This cannot be real.
Are you going to answer this?
I see we're awfully self-righteous today. Kathy Griffin should not have done what she did, and she should apologize directly for it. However, she probably won't. That's how it goes when you're POTUS. Trump should be apologizing to Obama for claiming he was born outside the country, and for scads of other knowingly false statements he made about Obama, but that isn't going to happen either. I can't recall ever calling for an apology for any of the numerous defamatory remarks that were made about Obama. I never called for such apologies because I'm not naive. And my bet is that you never once called for an apology for anything said about Obama either because frankly, you didn't give a damn. You'll pardon me if I find your sudden burst of moral rectitude to be highly suspect.