I did answer that. What Donald Trump apologizes for is irrelevant to whether he deserves an apology from KG. You're just trying to get something out of him. If she came out and took your stance she'd be fired by CNN in less than 12 hrs, it'd be so eggregious.
This does say a lot about your morality that you are so insistent on Griffin apologizing to Trump for a joke but have made no such demand of Trump for something vastly worse. I think we can both agree that such a moral double standard is deeply shameful.
Not only did Trump call for the death of five innocent children, he spent money to promote their execution, something, you know, could have actually happened to them. Then when informed of their innocence he still refused to apologize. For trying to ACTUALLY HAVE THEM KILLED.
It's not surprising that people are less willing to behave decently to such a morally repugnant character, which is why I said once he took steps to correct his grossly immoral behavior he might find others more willing to behave similarly.
You have repeatedly tried to move the goalposts from 'demand' to 'deserve'. Why?
Trump may deserve an apology but due to his morally repugnant behavior he is in no position to demand one.
Also, if Griffin's behavior was so bad how on earth can you support someone as president who has behaved in an incalculably more vile way? Doesn't it bother you to support such a disgusting human being?
How do you know my opinion of those instances? They have nothing to do with what KG did. Nothing. You can't admit that this was an afront to the President without also bringing up negative things about his past. Sad.
Well I now know that when I want fairness and a balanced view of current events, I'll not get it from you. Your hatred of this President is on display for all of us to see
I've used deserve time after time. If I used demand then it was in a different context.
Pictures from a recent photo shoot done by comedian Kathy Griffin show her holding a severed, bloody head that is supposed to be that of Trump.
Curious on thoughts of the good people of AT. Personally, this strikes me as a too far. If this were Obama I'm sure it would be called inappropriate by many.
Pics at link.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/30/kathy-griffin-beheads-donald-trump-photo-tyler-shields/
Well folks... your day just got better. Drudge's headline:
BARRON THOUGHT IT WAS HIS DAD!
MELANIA GOES AFTER KATHY GRIFFIN
Yes, I can admit it. I already did when I said "Kathy Griffin should not have done what she did, and she should apologize directly for it."
I can bring up the past to point out that you're a hypocrite. With Obama, it was much worse than just a rodeo clown wearing a mask as Atreus linked. You say I don't know your opinion of those things that were said about Obama. Fine. Then tell me in all honesty that you demanded an apology from Trump over the birther stuff, or for anything actually, and I'll retract what I said. Otherwise, I stand by what I said. Your outrage here is selective, partisan and completely phony.
Maybe he is the equivalent of an NPC character. Following the scripts that are triggered by certain dialogue or interactions with playable characters.Yes, I can admit it. I already did when I said "Kathy Griffin should not have done what she did, and she should apologize directly for it."
I can bring up the past to point out that you're a hypocrite. With Obama, it was much worse than just a rodeo clown wearing a mask as Atreus linked. You say I don't know your opinion of those things that were said about Obama. Fine. Then tell me in all honesty that you demanded an apology from Trump over the birther stuff, or for anything actually, and I'll retract what I said. Otherwise, I stand by what I said. Your outrage here is selective, partisan and completely phony.
Oh, so you're going to the 3rd grade deal of "yeah but you are too..."
I've made no comment on anything that happened to Obama. This isn't about him. You're trying to get in shots to make Trump look bad is not appealing. This is not the thread for that. If you want to talk about things done to Obama, start a thread on it. Don't use this thread to lessen Trump
You responded to a post that said 'demand' and then complained about how they said he didn't 'deserve' an apology. That's moving the goalposts 101.
You have used 'deserve' time after time, but in response to people telling you that they weren't arguing about 'deserve' and that you should stop dishonestly representing their argument.
Whoops, your programming is showing. Fair and balanced, where have I heard that before....Well I now know that when I want fairness and a balanced view of current events, I'll not get it from you. Your hatred of this President is on display for all of us to see
The question you should be asking to those folks is why they answered my comment about deserve with the word demand. That's who's moving the goal posts. He need not waste his time demanding anything of this insignificant comedienne. But he does deserve an apology
It is frankly bizarre that in a thread about how someone should apologize to Trump for making a joke about his death you think bringing up how Trump has non-jokingly called for others' deaths and not apologized and how conservatives felt there was no need for an apology for far worse threats against Obama are not relevant.
Can you explain this?
The question you should be asking to those folks is why they answered my comment about deserve with the word demand. That's who's moving the goal posts. He need not waste his time demanding anything of this insignificant comedienne. But he does deserve an apology
snowflakes on fox news are heavily debating this. I wonder if they had the same level of discourse following ted nugents tirades against hillary and Obama
"And in years past, Nugent has told President Obama (who he has dubbed a “piece of shit” and a “subhuman mongrel”) to “suck my tiger dick,” and to also “suck on my machine gun.”
“Hey Hillary [Clinton], you might want to ride one of these [guns] into the sunset, you worthless bitch," he added for good measure during that same infamous mid-concert rant in 2007."
and this
and this
and this
I am absolutely certain they paid as much attention to this as griffin's dumb, dumb, stunt. Right?
snowflakes on fox news are heavily debating this. I wonder if they had the same level of discourse following ted nugents tirades against hillary and Obama
"And in years past, Nugent has told President Obama (who he has dubbed a “piece of shit” and a “subhuman mongrel”) to “suck my tiger dick,” and to also “suck on my machine gun.”
“Hey Hillary [Clinton], you might want to ride one of these [guns] into the sunset, you worthless bitch," he added for good measure during that same infamous mid-concert rant in 2007."
and this
and this
and this
I am absolutely certain they paid as much attention to this as griffin's dumb, dumb, stunt. Right?
I have no comment about "conservatives" in the general sense. I have no idea what you're referring to or what conservative.
Fuck apologies. Either own your shit or keep your mouth shut. This whole practice of saying something then taking backlash and offering some half ass mea culpa is pathetic. Either say it and own it, or keep your mouth shut. No apology necessary then.
Were these things done by anybody as famous as Kathy Griffin? A public person?
“Our unholy rotten soulless criminal America destroying government killed 4 Americans in Banghazi. Period!,” Nugent wrote on Facebook.
“What sort of chimpass punk would deny security, turn down 61 requests for security, then tell US forces to STAND DOWN when they were ready to kickass on the allapukes & save American lives!,” the 67-year-old rocker continued. “Obama & Clinton, thats who. They should be tried for treason & hung. Our entire fkdup gvt must be cleansed asap.”
You're avoiding the substance of yet another post you can't answer. Trump engaging in far worse behavior about the same subject is directly relevant to the matter at hand. Anything you have to say about Griffin applies exponentially more to Trump. Can you explain why your standards for a comedian are higher than your standards for President?