Free war poster

[William]

Yep. Right on.

 

[fumbduck]

i dont see how this poster represents war/anti-war at all. Well the picture anyway, how is that respresentational at all?

 

[William]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: KAMAZON
You sound quite like the Fundy yourself. Perhaps you're a Christain Zionist brainwashed by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Rev. Moon! If we're fighting fundamentalism, you'd better punch yourself.

...and you sound like you are probably from California

Atlas Shrugged is on my to-read list. In the NYTimes magazine, there was an interesting piece about a famous (and very good) poker player and his belief in Objectivism. It seemed to work for him.

 

[William]

Originally posted by: KAMAZON

I agree this topic should be changed to ANTI-WAR and it didn't affect my opinion on the war. Fundamental extremest adults were fundamental extremest kids at some point. That is what we are fighting.

You sound quite like the Fundy yourself. Perhaps you're a Christain Zionist brainwashed by Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Rev. Moon! If we're fighting fundamentalism, you'd better punch yourself.

This is the same old moral equivocation used by the far left. "We're just as bad as they are," "Bush and Osama: there is no difference," etc. To say there's as much Christian-sponsored terroristic fundamentalism as there are fundamental Islamic terrorists is just plain delusional talk; you're living in fantasy of your own making.

 

[William]

Originally posted by: rasputinj
Thanks my sister inlaw is a big peace activist she will love this.

Tack this moniker on your sister, too: Saddam Apologist.

 

[Slikkster]

No matter the issue of whether any given war is *just* or not, I love the cavalier attitude of some who have obviously never set foot on anything close to a battlefield, save for maybe a game of Quake. If you want to find out who the least gung-ho about war are likely to be, go ask some generals who have been there. (I am a vet, btw.)

The fact that this country, as great as it is and with such a brilliant document underlying it's very existence, can't get into the minds, the hearts and souls of others in this world who would hate us, is a real failure on our part. Until we can reach the children of these nations and help them to understand what freedom is all about, we are doomed to repeat this unending cycle of war upon war. It truly is a shame. It's the difference between proactive vs. reactionary. Right now, we are proactive in trying to destroy those who would destroy us. But for all of our successes, has it really changed the dynamic at all? Is there any less hate directed at the U.S. now when, if anything, we should have the world's sympathy for 9/11 and gratitude for wars fought for others in the past? We need to be proactive in spreading the word about America, and backing up those words with deeds. No, not a U.N. giveaway, but a real outreach both individually and governmentally. Otherwise, it's the war du jour, and some parent or brother of some child like the one in the poster who ordinarily might be sympathetic to our cause will sow the seeds of hatred and revenge, directed right at us.

Right now, the Madrassa's (sp?) are inculcating children in some parts of the Middle East. We need them to know the real story, and when all they know is that GI Joe came and bombed their country and left (e.g. Afghanistan), what are they to think? "Nation Building" used to be a dirty phrase in Washington. How ironic that the very people who dismissed it out of hand a few years ago now understand that this is exactly what's necessary in a post-war time. Let's all hope they're now smart enough to follow through. It's the children, stupid.

 

[AllABoutTheDeals]

Sweet shot ehh! It's amazing how technology can drop a laser guided bomb right on target like that.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Mr. 2000lbs Bunker Buster that's who!


This poster tells me, "DON'T $^&% WITH AMERICA!" Hey, Saddam has kids too. Doesn't mean we shouldn't blow them up too.

 

[CyberZenn]

Hey, Saddam has kids too. Doesn't mean we shouldn't blow them up too.

Been there, done that - about 2 weeks ago.

 

[kindest]

Originally posted by: AllABoutTheDeals
Sweet shot ehh! It's amazing how technology can drop a laser guided bomb right on target like that.

Knock, knock.

Who's there?

Mr. 2000lbs Bunker Buster that's who!


This poster tells me, "DON'T $^&% WITH AMERICA!" Hey, Saddam has kids too. Doesn't mean we shouldn't blow them up too.

lol
banana who.

 

[William]

Originally posted by: Slikkster
No matter the issue of whether any given war is *just* or not, I love the cavalier attitude of some who have obviously never set foot on anything close to a battlefield, save for maybe a game of Quake. If you want to find out who the least gung-ho about war are likely to be, go ask some generals who have been there. (I am a vet, btw.)

Not having been in a war or the military doesn't mitigate in any way my opinion that this was just, humanitarian, and necessary. Drop the facade.

The fact that this country, as great as it is and with such a brilliant document underlying it's very existence, can't get into the minds, the hearts and souls of others in this world who would hate us, is a real failure on our part.

True, but dignifying even a modicum of those supporting terrorism is the wrong position to take.

Until we can reach the children of these nations and help them to understand what freedom is all about, we are doomed to repeat this unending cycle of war upon war.

In a way I agree, but letting off the hook, by not requiring a bit of personal responsibility for, those theocratic dictators (Iran) running closed governments (Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia) is wrong.

It truly is a shame. It's the difference between proactive vs. reactionary. Right now, we are proactive in trying to destroy those who would destroy us. But for all of our successes, has it really changed the dynamic at all?

Yes. Of course, holistic proactive approach is necessary, anyone would agree.

Is there any less hate directed at the U.S. now when, if anything, we should have the world's sympathy for 9/11 and gratitude for wars fought for others in the past? We need to be proactive in spreading the word about America, and backing up those words with deeds. No, not a U.N. giveaway, but a real outreach both individually and governmentally. Otherwise, it's the war du jour, and some parent or brother of some child like the one in the poster who ordinarily might be sympathetic to our cause will sow the seeds of hatred and revenge, directed right at us.

Right now, the Madrassa's (sp?) are inculcating children in some parts of the Middle East. We need them to know the real story, and when all they know is that GI Joe came and bombed their country and left (e.g. Afghanistan), what are they to think? "Nation Building" used to be a dirty phrase in Washington. How ironic that the very people who dismissed it out of hand a few years ago now understand that this is exactly what's necessary in a post-war time. Let's all hope they're now smart enough to follow through. It's the children, stupid.

Again, the U.S. needs to hold to account the governments supporting these schools of hate. I.e. the Saudi royal family (read: Rand report, and the latest 28 pages of redacted material released to Congress)

 

[TomVeil]

nice shot

 

[BruinEd03]

Originally posted by: DJMiX
Text

question...where and how was the pic taken. I mean if the pic was staged so that the kid would be running away...err...what kind of message is that? Sorry...kinda lame IMO.

-Ed

 

[tRaptor]

am I the only one that sees a semi-fat short man running away, not a kid?

 

[fumbduck]

Originally posted by: tRaptor
am I the only one that sees a semi-fat short man running away, not a kid?

i see a kid, but this looks like a black and white picture someone took of their kid running out the back door. Probably yo go play cowboys and injuns with his friends.

 

[Tab]

Does anyone have any proof that this is really a missle camera? Because until then you can suck my por-war dick

BTW I'll be getting one and burning it Or maybe 100 more and burning them.

 

[Anami]

There's an Eastern saying (no, Johnny, not New York) that the enlightened man walks down the middle, neither repelled by the evil nor attracted to the good. These things are all pairs of opposites that pull us in this world, this carnival of lights and sounds. Spirit comes here to experience, but has to find its true nature in the middle of all these things. We try partying, we try sobriety, both are part of the fight. And there's plenty to do when war comes, giving aid to those that are hurt or lost. Neither for one side or the other. Or, we can choose either side and experience that, too. Just remember that the heart is a better mind than the brain. The heart experiences the multi-media event of life touched by spirit, while the brain tries (poorly) to take notes of that experience, and doesn't even come close.

 

[cafepollution]

And we have the shell-shocked who think just because they've been angry, been to the front line, and know war from first-hand experience, that they have earned the right to dictate other people's freedom and their way of life - even if we kills them dead in this process... I guess that's what we American do for freedom, I forgot.

 

[TekDemon]

me don't get poster
me confuzzled

errr?

Seriously though, I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what the poster is? There's nothing mentioned anywhere about what it's supposed to be so all I see is someone running keeling over or something. What the heck.

Of course civilians die in wars, heck usually more civilians die than soldiers(not by percent I mean by sheer numbers) so not much point in expecting low civilian casualties.

I figure the future of war involves having a bunch of Honda ASIMO units retrofitted with a new AI that has been programmed to work with newly installed machines guns so that it just fires at everything that moves very accurately and blows it's head off. Best part is that Japan has finally deployed their military again(I dunno whether to be happy for Japan to finally be allowed to play with fire again or whether to be worried) and hopefully they can find some use for a huge assembly line of upgraded ASIMOs with guns. Honda could probably manufacture 10 million of them in a year if they had enough funding woohoo...Then you just drop em down in giant crates with parachutes attached to them, and the crates will open after it lands and out comes like 200 ASIMO units. Drop these loads all over your favorite enemy country and watch their civilian population dwindle as if the plague hit it. Even better, these warriors can actually release the plague in biological weapon bombs or whatever, and not be affected at all since they're robots! Chemical, biological, it's all good. Even heavy radiation weapons could probably be deployed where you bombard the area with radiation(but not the ring of fire since I doubt the robots could withstand that). Or hell, use a couple nukes then drop the ASIMOs to do the cleanup job. Oh the possibilities of automatic robot war.

I think we should keep an eye on Japan just in case someone tried to load a Quake 3 bot AI onto an ASIMO. lol

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: William

Atlas Shrugged is on my to-read list. In the NYTimes magazine, there was an interesting piece about a famous (and very good) poker player and his belief in Objectivism. It seemed to work for him.

Nice, but don't believe everything that is 'cut and pasted' in the Times

I would suggest The Fountainhead first, though...gives you the philosophy at the individual level and easier to understand, as opposed to the philosophy-laden Atlas Shrugged at the macro level; nonetheless, you earned my respect just by mentioning that you are willing to read her works.

 

[William]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: William

Atlas Shrugged is on my to-read list. In the NYTimes magazine, there was an interesting piece about a famous (and very good) poker player and his belief in Objectivism. It seemed to work for him.

Nice, but don't believe everything that is 'cut and pasted' in the Times

I would suggest The Fountainhead first, though...gives you the philosophy at the individual level and easier to understand, as opposed to the philosophy-laden Atlas Shrugged at the macro level; nonetheless, you earned my respect just by mentioning that you are willing to read her works.

Note taken on Fountainhead. I'll read that first. I'm studying philosophy at Emory in Atlanta.

 

[Slikkster]

Drop the facade.

Facade? Dude, your arrogance is mitigated only by your ignorance. Gimme a break. I'm not dignifying or supporting terrorists or terrorism in any way shape or form. But while you give short shrift to the real answer to the problem, you're only concerned with the bandaid; treating the symptoms instead of the disease. If you think that simply removing these regimes is going to cure the problems, that is myopic, at best. Accountability? Sure. No argument here. That's only part of the battle. Stopping the cycle in its tracks is what's needed. You can't kill everyone, much as you seem to want to. And you can't go do the regime-change thing, and then leave countries hanging out to dry. That's an invitation to the next despot or fanatic to fill the void.

Just so you know, I agree wholeheartedly that the Saudis are being given a pass, and it's obvious that oil is why. To have a War on Terror and not to hold the Saudis responsible for their part tacitly and overtly totally de-legitimizes GWB's crusade. It's a closed society that's antithetical to our way of life, yet, because of a commodity, we kow tow to them. Strange bedfellows, indeed.

 

[SXMP]

"Note taken on Fountainhead. I'll read that first. I'm studying philosophy at Emory in Atlanta."

You might want to try "Anthem" first. It is even better to delve into first, then Fountainhead, then Atlas Shrugged.. I read them in the order of Anthem, Atlas Shrugged, Fountainhead, and found myself wishing I had done it the aforementioned way.

 

[Chris A]

Cool I will hang it next to my Sept11 poster... Kind of a twisted before and after!!

 

[DestruyaUR]

I'm not going to impart my politics here, but I can say with some certainty that this isn't a missile cam we're looking at. Guided TV-equipped seeker heads normally report other data on the readout. The cam on the Predators are of the look-down variety - such as the view we saw in the first Iraq war of laser-guided bombs hitting bridges, bunkers, and buildings.

But when it comes down to it, I really don't know what we're looking at. If there really was a story behind the picture one would think it would be told on the same site giving them away. For all we know we're looking at security cam footage, which might explain the interlacing of the picture.

If anything, it might be a mission camera - a helmet-mounted system designed to record engagements for ease in debriefing. A giveaway is the bright-white areas inside - smacks of IR sensors. If you looked out your door and saw an entire Platoon of Special Forces, you'd probably run like hell, too.

If it were a missile cam, the kid would not have had time to run away.

 

[wsmith5]

this is a rare shot of a Predator drone pilot scrambling the aircraft ( you didn't really believe that stuff about remote piloting did you?