Freebird or Stairway ?

[Pegun]

Freebird, I have a thing for tribute songs and bands that still put on tens of shows each year (after 30 years of rocking)

 

[Gibsons]

You'll hear both referred to as "the most requested song of all time." It's a complete lie. Whenever a DJ needed to take a crap, they needed a long song - they'd play one of these and claim someone requested it.

 

[Kev]

All the Small Things by Blink 182

 

[CraKaJaX]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: acheron
stairway. how is this even a question?

^^.

I really don't understand how there are so many people who hate both? How could you actually hate these songs? I can understand that they're overplayed and yeah, that's annoying, but actually hating the songs themselves? Yikes. I'm not a huge Skynyrd fan but I can definitely appreciate Freebird. Stairway to Heaven, though, is just a masterpiece.

:thumbsup:

 

[zebano]

Stairway... denied?

neither one is all that great.

 

[imported_Champ]

Freebird!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[meltdown75]

stairway, dudes!

 

[Zenmervolt]

The best I can say for Stairway is that it's tolerable.

Freebird, however, contains the single best guitar solo in rock history. The 14+ minute live version may well represent the greatest example of straight-ahead guitar-based rock that has ever existed.

ZV

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: whoever
I really don't understand how there are so many people who hate both? How could you actually hate these songs? I can understand that they're overplayed and yeah, that's annoying, but actually hating the songs themselves? Yikes. I'm not a huge Skynyrd fan but I can definitely appreciate Freebird. Stairway to Heaven, though, is just a masterpiece.

:thumbsup:[/quote]

this

 

[SunnyD]

Frankenstein.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: logo908
Stairway easily. Great lyrics, excellent build up and then one of the best solos of all time. Freebird? Boring as hell. ESPECIALLY the solo... it feels almost meaningless. I mean cmon... "and as we wind on down the road... our shadows taller than our souls...." ...god damn

You're citing nonsense as an example of "great lyrics"? Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal yet still far superior to the pseudo-intellectual nonsense of Stairway.

ZV

 

[destrekor]

What is with people here?
If it's trendy, it can't be good. If it's popular, it can't be good. If it's not tech/math/prog metal, it can't be good.

Personally, I prefer Stairway a little more than Freebird, but love each equally. However, due to both being very overplayed, I can only listen to them when I want to listen to them.
I'm a huge Led Zep fan, but tend to listen to just about everything of theirs other than Stairway. I love Kashmir too, but don't listen to that song too frequently either.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: logo908
Stairway easily. Great lyrics, excellent build up and then one of the best solos of all time. Freebird? Boring as hell. ESPECIALLY the solo... it feels almost meaningless. I mean cmon... "and as we wind on down the road... our shadows taller than our souls...." ...god damn

You're citing nonsense as an example of "great lyrics"? Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal yet still far superior to the pseudo-intellectual nonsense of Stairway.

ZV

at least Zeppelin tried to be somewhat artistic and poetic. last time i checked, that was 99% of songwriting and musical creativity as we know it.

"if i leave here tomorowwwwwwwwww
would you still remember meee"

lol, smoke another one Skynrd.

 

[guitarslingerchris]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Stairway to Heaven was a masterpiece of composition that got overplayed and worn out (too much of a good thing).

This. It's still one of my favorites, but then again I can still listen to Achy Breaky Heart occasionally too, so I might have some type of immunity to this type of thing.

 

[SirChadwick]

I'm south of the Mason-Dixon. Stairway all the way! Even though I've grown just a bit tired of hearing both.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: logo908
Stairway easily. Great lyrics, excellent build up and then one of the best solos of all time. Freebird? Boring as hell. ESPECIALLY the solo... it feels almost meaningless. I mean cmon... "and as we wind on down the road... our shadows taller than our souls...." ...god damn

You're citing nonsense as an example of "great lyrics"? Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal yet still far superior to the pseudo-intellectual nonsense of Stairway.

ZV

Ah yes, we can't have a Led Zep/Rush/Pink Floyd discussion w/o the dreaded "pseudo-intellectual" tag being applied. :roll:

The lyrics of Stairway are pretty straightforward, and contains some pretty obvious symbolism. Nothing especially "intellectual" - pseudo or otherwise - about it. Just creative.

Unlike Free Bird, where one gets the impression LS said "Hey, let's make a real song", and then found out... they couldn't. So they jammed as an outro.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Unlike Free Bird, where one gets the impression LS said "Hey, let's make a real song", and then found out... they couldn't. So they jammed as an outro.

And an awesome fucking outro jam it is!

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: destrekor
What is with people here?
If it's trendy, it can't be good. If it's popular, it can't be good. If it's not tech/math/prog metal, it can't be good.

Not quite sure what you're getting at here. "Trendy" doesn't matter, it's the nature of the trend. If blue cars are trendy, and you don't like the color blue, why would you want a blue car?

Likewise, if the current trend in music is, say, hip-hop, and you don't like hip-hop, why bother with the latest trend?

I don't listen to much music radio, so maybe I'm off on what the latest musical trends are, but you get my drift.

In this thread, we've been discussing the merits of 2 older, "classic" songs that are definitions of a particular genre. We haven't been involved in an "old music vs new music" debate.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Unlike Free Bird, where one gets the impression LS said "Hey, let's make a real song", and then found out... they couldn't. So they jammed as an outro.

And an awesome fucking outro jam it is!

Yes it is, and that's the only reason I have an mp3 of it.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Unlike Free Bird, where one gets the impression LS said "Hey, let's make a real song", and then found out... they couldn't. So they jammed as an outro.

And an awesome fucking outro jam it is!

Yes it is, and that's the only reason I have an mp3 of it.

I didn't even realize there was a song before the outro jam.

 

[zeruty]

Originally posted by: Chris
Two of the most overrated songs of all time. Preference to either is usually decided by your location relative to the Mason-Dixon Line.

I'm a born & raised Washingtonian, and I prefer Freebird. What does that mean?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: logo908
Stairway easily. Great lyrics, excellent build up and then one of the best solos of all time. Freebird? Boring as hell. ESPECIALLY the solo... it feels almost meaningless. I mean cmon... "and as we wind on down the road... our shadows taller than our souls...." ...god damn

You're citing nonsense as an example of "great lyrics"? Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal yet still far superior to the pseudo-intellectual nonsense of Stairway.

ZV

Ah yes, we can't have a Led Zep/Rush/Pink Floyd discussion w/o the dreaded "pseudo-intellectual" tag being applied. :roll:

The lyrics of Stairway are pretty straightforward, and contains some pretty obvious symbolism. Nothing especially "intellectual" - pseudo or otherwise - about it. Just creative.

Unlike Free Bird, where one gets the impression LS said "Hey, let's make a real song", and then found out... they couldn't. So they jammed as an outro.

You're telling me that, "If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now, its just a spring clean for the may queen" is straightforward and obvious symbolism? Sorry, it's not. It's a clear case of "we needed some words to fill up this verse and wanted people to think we were deep".

Like I said, Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal. And still better than Stairway's.

If I want intelligent lyrics, I have Rush or The Moody Blues to listen to. Zeppelin isn't even a blip on the radar screen for great lyrics. Zep had a few decent songs, and they get points for incorporating a lot of Lord of The Rings references in their works, but really I've never thought they were anything special.

ZV

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: logo908
Stairway easily. Great lyrics, excellent build up and then one of the best solos of all time. Freebird? Boring as hell. ESPECIALLY the solo... it feels almost meaningless. I mean cmon... "and as we wind on down the road... our shadows taller than our souls...." ...god damn

You're citing nonsense as an example of "great lyrics"? Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal yet still far superior to the pseudo-intellectual nonsense of Stairway.

ZV

Ah yes, we can't have a Led Zep/Rush/Pink Floyd discussion w/o the dreaded "pseudo-intellectual" tag being applied. :roll:

The lyrics of Stairway are pretty straightforward, and contains some pretty obvious symbolism. Nothing especially "intellectual" - pseudo or otherwise - about it. Just creative.

Unlike Free Bird, where one gets the impression LS said "Hey, let's make a real song", and then found out... they couldn't. So they jammed as an outro.

You're telling me that, "If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now, its just a spring clean for the may queen" is straightforward and obvious symbolism? Sorry, it's not. It's a clear case of "we needed some words to fill up this verse and wanted people to think we were deep".

Like I said, Freebird's lyrics are trite and banal. And still better than Stairway's.

If I want intelligent lyrics, I have Rush or The Moody Blues to listen to. Zeppelin isn't even a blip on the radar screen for great lyrics. Zep had a few decent songs, and they get points for incorporating a lot of Lord of The Rings references in their works, but really I've never thought they were anything special.

ZV

in the days of my youth i was told what it means to be a man.
now i've reached that age i've tried to do all those things the best i can.

BAM i win.

SLAMMIN!

 

[queenrobot]

Freebird.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
in the days of my youth i was told what it means to be a man.
now i've reached that age i've tried to do all those things the best i can.

BAM i win.

SLAMMIN!

Take your time, don't live too fast,
Troubles will come, and they will pass.
Go find a woman, and you'll find love,
And don't forget son,
There is someone up above.

And be a simple kind of man.
Be something you love and understand.

More direct, more applicable, more specific. Instead of vague references to an ill-defined something, Skynyrd actually comes out and says it.

Just because Zep couches things with flowery language doesn't make their statements any deeper than Skynyrd's.

ZV