freee back Pain Book

conjur

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Cool...my lower back has really been giving me problems lately. I'm not doing my stretches/exercises like I should and don't want to go back to a chiropractor.

We'll see how this goes...it said 'Form being processed' after I submitted my mailing info.
 

yukichigai

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I find the best medicine for a sore back is one of the fabulous massages offered by the ladies of the local brothel, particularly the ones they give with their breasts. So very enjoyable.
 

Mamoose

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
I find the best medicine for a sore back is one of the fabulous massages offered by the ladies of the local brothel, particularly the ones they give with their breasts. So very enjoyable.

:Q:Q
 

BigWillyStyle

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I wouldnt get this book even though it is free. Just go and look at the solutions they have for back pain....cortisone injections? Can you say pain killers? Sure, that will make the problem go away, just cover up the pain.:disgust:
 

SpacemanSpiffVT

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cool thanks!


anyone here have priformis or sciatia (severe pain down the butt and the leg)

ive been dying because of this..! any help would be much appreciated
 

exit88

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Originally posted by: BigWillyStyle
I wouldnt get this book even though it is free. Just go and look at the solutions they have for back pain....cortisone injections? Can you say pain killers? Sure, that will make the problem go away, just cover up the pain.:disgust:

A common treatment for back and neck problems, that I have had sucessfully in both the neck and back, are Epidural Steroid Injections. They are not "pain killers" and work by reducing the inflammation and/or swelling of the nerves in the epidural space resulting in decreased pain, tingling and numbness reduce the inflammation and/or swelling of the nerves in the epidural space resulting in decreased pain, tingling and numbness.

Epidural Steriod Injections are also quite different from what are commonly referred to as "cortisone injections."
 

kenja

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Having a chronic lower back for many years and having been through all the treatments except surgery, I say there is a lot of good info at that clinic's site.

And, uh: "Epidural Injections
Epidural injections of cortisone may reduce the inflammation and/or swelling of the nerves in the epidural space resulting in decreased pain, tingling and numbness. The procedure involves inserting a needle of a long lasting steroid (cortisone) through the skin and deeper tissues into the epidural space. The epidural space is the area surrounding the spinal cord and the nerves coming out of it. One or more injections may be needed to relieve symptoms."

If you're not a candidate for surgery, most places will only give you a couple hits, max.

The best thing for me is a steady program of exercise, after having been guided by physical therapists. I can't say I've kept it up, though, which leads to the occasional shooting pain down the leg and a lot of foul language.
:disgust:
 

BigWillyStyle

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......................A common treatment for back and neck problems, that I have had sucessfully in both the neck and back, are Epidural Steroid Injections. They are not "pain killers" and work by reducing the inflammation and/or swelling of the nerves in the epidural space resulting in decreased pain, tingling and numbness reduce the inflammation and/or swelling of the nerves in the epidural space resulting in decreased pain, tingling and numbness.

Epidural Steriod Injections are also quite different from what are commonly referred to as "cortisone injections."


Epidural steroid injections are pain killers. what exactly do you think that cortisone is? A steroid? You are correct when you say that a steroid is not specifically a pain killer, like a narcotic, such as codine. My point is, anything that you inject/take orally that masks the pain is not addressing the problem you are having with your back/neck. It is simply covering up the symptoms. Do you think that your body is giving you pain b/c it wants to? No. It is sending you a message that there is a problem going on. You masking the pain is only you telling your body you aren't interested. Trust me, it will come back to haunt you later.
 

Radracer

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After having one microdiscechtomy surgery (L5-S1), 8 epidural steroid injections, 1 adhesiolysis procedure, and 3 spinal nerve blocks, I think I can speak in detail about back pain & injury. If you have a bulging (aka ruptured or slipped) disc, a cortisone or steroid injection can help you. These type of injections are not pain killers per se...they reduce pain indirectly by reducing the swelling and inflammation of the nerve that is causing the pain. The source of the pain is the ruptured disc itself, and once it's bulging, the only way to fix it is surgery to cut off or remove the bulging part (microdisechtomy). Picture a jelly donut...that is your disc. Press down on it with your hand and jelly will squirt out. That is the food equivalent of a ruptured disc. The stuff that squirts out pushes on the nerve, causing leg and butt pain. There is no way to get that jelly back in the disk.

A nerve block is done as a last, temporary resort...this is when they inject a numbing solution into your spine, flooding the affected nerve. Relief can last from 1 month to up to 3 years. I'm at 2 moths on the latest one...so far so good. My only other option is a fusion surgery, and I don't want that.

Thanks Joker. You always find something worthwhile to post.
 

BigWillyStyle

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Originally posted by: Radracer
After having one microdiscechtomy surgery (L5-S1), 8 epidural steroid injections, 1 adhesiolysis procedure, and 3 spinal nerve blocks, I think I can speak in detail about back pain & injury. If you have a bulging (aka ruptured or slipped) disc, a cortisone or steroid injection can help you. These type of injections are not pain killers per se...they reduce pain indirectly by reducing the swelling and inflammation of the nerve that is causing the pain. The source of the pain is the ruptured disc itself, and once it's bulging, the only way to fix it is surgery to cut off or remove the bulging part (microdisechtomy). Picture a jelly donut...that is your disc. Press down on it with your hand and jelly will squirt out. That is the food equivalent of a ruptured disc. The stuff that squirts out pushes on the nerve, causing leg and butt pain. There is no way to get that jelly back in the disk.

A nerve block is done as a last, temporary resort...this is when they inject a numbing solution into your spine, flooding the affected nerve. Relief can last from 1 month to up to 3 years. I'm at 2 moths on the latest one...so far so good. My only other option is a fusion surgery, and I don't want that.

Thanks Joker. You always find something worthwhile to post.

I appreciate what you are saying, my point is though, that MOST people never do anything for there back pain to address the CAUSE. Most just cover it up with aleve (take it for pain...take it for life), steroid injections or whatever other masking agent they can find.

I am aware of the anatomy of the disk, the nucleus pulposis can bulge out of the annulus, but USUALLY this situation can be cured with conservative care. Conservative care meaning chiropractic, exercise, work/activity modifications/restrictions and education. A recent study found that roughly 20-30% of adults had a bulging disk and were not even aware of it.

The reason the disk can bulge is because of a dysrelationship between the vertebra above and below the disk. The disk just suffers the consequences and causes the pain. The fix should not be surgery, but regaining the normal motion b/w the bones which can be achieved through conservative care. The disk problem will work itself out naturally once the bones work right again.

Imagine a tire out of balance and wearing unevenly, dont just keep fixing the tire, fix the alignment (the spine) which is causing the uneven wear.

-Nuf said, and joker, you do come up with some great freebies...

(btw - I'm a chiropractor)
 

Biochem101

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Hrmmm, as a chiropractor, do you refer your patients to PTs after the adjustment?

Inquiring minds want to know....
 

BigWillyStyle

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Originally posted by: Biochem101
Hrmmm, as a chiropractor, do you refer your patients to PTs after the adjustment?

Inquiring minds want to know....

No, not usually. We set our own treatment plans for patients. If there is a situation that dicates extensive, long term PT, then there wouldnt be any reason not to goto a PT.

Will
 
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