I'll believe it when I see it. PCPer was apparently promised a demo monitor in September, and that didn't happen.
Do we even know who's designing these monitors?
Do we even know who's designing these monitors?
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No not quite. It works with 99% of them but some games use forms of frame capping that are simply incompatible with having DirectX meter the frame rate. One of the few examples for a big game is Diablo 3.
Farming simulator had it turned off in the profile so I am guessing that is another game that doesn't support it. The way Nvidia deal with it is they produce a profile for the game turning if off where it doesn't work. There isn't anything they can do on their end to fix it, the game is breaking the DX API pre and post conditions so they just have to disable it when a game does it in a way that conflicts with gsync.
Its not common however but its certainly not 100% of all games.
Who said it's better other than possibly some forum users?
If the only thing it does is removes tearing, it seems unlikely that either will stand out presuming they are doing it efficiently.
The other features haven't even been mentioned from what little I've seen. I'll be surprised if there is anything extra tacked on since the only thing the VESA standard seems to do is synchronize the monitor to the current FPS (afaik).
AMD did. They had a Q&A (probably still do) where they asked themselves the question what the difference was and said it was better. Its not some forum dweller that said that it was AMD.
I too would be very surprised if anything else that comes with the gsync module (ULMB, 3D vision, motion blur reduction, very low input latency) come with the Freesync panels as well. It seems to be just about the panel sync and nothing else.
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We haven't heard anything about Freesync in regards to ULMB or anything even like that, we don't even really know how Freesync differs from gsync in implementation details, all we have been told is "its better" without any details. I am hoping those sorts of details come out with the Prototype monitors in November, would be pretty bad if the monitors go on sale and AMD at no point explains how they are working beyond the Nvidia descriptions given.
New NEC 32" 4K 120Hz monitor, also looks like possibly FS with the multi refresh rates.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nec-adds-multisync-pa322uhd-32-inch-ultra-hd-monitor.html
Well, that's not going to be cheap.
Well, we know ULMB has nothing to do with any variable refresh tech. It's incompatible with Gsync and you have to use one or the other. Add to that it's nVidia tech and that makes the odds at zero we'll see it with Async, even if it was fully compatible.
As far as descriptions of the monitors, AMD doesn't have anything to do with that. They only came up with the standard and have offered an advisory position to the monitor manufacturers. The monitor manufacturers are the ones who need to speak up.
Well, that's not going to be cheap.
When they release a consumer version with DP1.3 and HDMI2.0 I would be willing to pay quite a premium for it. not $2299, but still a lot.
New NEC 32" 4K 120Hz monitor, also looks like possibly FS with the multi refresh rates.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nec-adds-multisync-pa322uhd-32-inch-ultra-hd-monitor.html
What's the competitive advantage for Nvidia to adopt AMD's process?
If Freesync wins out in three generations i'm sure they will shift and adopt. If it doesn't i'm sure they'd be more than happy to license gsync to anyone who is willing to pay.
They aren't in the business of making their competition more competitive.
It's not AMD tech they would be supporting. AMD's freesync is just their name for their product-side support for adaptive sync, a feature under the DisplayPort spec, DisplayPort being an "open standard" established by the VESA group. As it stands, Freesync compatible only means the monitor supports adaptive sync. That means Nvidia wouldn't be making AMD more competitive, they would just be supporting an open standard (no royalties to AMD) and adding another feature to their graphics cards, a good thing for the customers.
It's not AMD tech they would be supporting. AMD's freesync is just their name for their product-side support for adaptive sync, a feature under the DisplayPort spec, DisplayPort being an "open standard" established by the VESA group. As it stands, Freesync compatible only means the monitor supports adaptive sync. That means Nvidia wouldn't be making AMD more competitive, they would just be supporting an open standard (no royalties to AMD) and adding another feature to their graphics cards, a good thing for the customers.
It's not AMD tech they would be supporting. AMD's freesync is just their name for their product-side support for adaptive sync, a feature under the DisplayPort spec, DisplayPort being an "open standard" established by the VESA group. As it stands, Freesync compatible only means the monitor supports adaptive sync. That means Nvidia wouldn't be making AMD more competitive, they would just be supporting an open standard (no royalties to AMD) and adding another feature to their graphics cards, a good thing for the customers.
Aren't those just the standard refresh rates for any 120hz monitor?
I recently had a BenQ XL2430T for a month and do not remember seeing 24, 30, 50Hz settings on that monitor which I think is required (fps min) for FS. But I am that knowledgeable on 120hz monitors.
No, they would be making AMD more competitive by supporting AMDs standard ("open" or not) rather than their own. This makes no business sense for the company - especially considering their first to market status and the unknown/unclear feature set associated with freesync.
Nvidia won't support adaptive sync until there are enough adaptive sync monitors in circulation to justify the loss of g-sync display sales in favor of gpu sales. If adaptive sync does well, that balance point might be a couple years away, when lots of people with a-sync displays start upgrading video cards.
It's not AMD's standard. Period. Providing support for both features would make Nvidia's graphics cards more competitive.
Not supporting adaptive sync also runs the risk of diminishing the value of their own cards if adaptive sync compliant monitors turn out to be cheaper but just as good as g-sync (when used in conjunction with AMD's freesync enabled cards). In any case, the initial introduction of a-sync enabled monitors is moving ahead regardless. Nvidia is handing AMD exclusivity to said monitors for an unknown period of time.