Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: numark
Originally posted by: Dari
Just because you're suicidal doesn't mean you're irresponsible. You may be selfish, but not irresponsible. It's his decision.
EDIT: Suicide is pretty commonplace outside of Western/African culture.
As someone who's extensively worked with mentally ill people, some of which have attempted suicide, describing someone as "selfish" is extremely unfair. As mentioned before, in most cases of non-euthanasia related suicide attempts, people have severe mental illnesses that alter their normal judgment. To call them "selfish" implies that they made a conscious, reasoned, well-thought-out decision with perfect mental clarity.
Severe mental illnesses don't work that way. Things seem insurmountable, and it's compounded by the idea that you shouldn't or can't reach out to other people. Suicide seems like the only option, when in fact it's not. Most people, once they receive treatment, see their situations in a different light, and don't see suicide as the appropriate option.
So please, reconsider your idea that suicide is an inherently conscious, "selfish" act. Popular beliefs like that only add to the stigma that mental illness and suicide attempts have in our culture.
Fair enough. If a person is mentally handicapped, then I guess it's ok to stop them. But if they're fine, let them do as they please. It can solve so many problems at once for the individual.
Killing oneself solves problems? Lol. No one in their right mind wants to kill themselves IMO. Goes against every basic instinct we have.
It can if you think about the plight your existence is having on your friends and family or if you kill yourself so that others may live.
There are other ways to remove yourself from their lives if that's really necessary. Even if you really are nothing but a drain on society at large, if you can recognize it, you can do something about it. Killing oneself is the easy way out. I find it ironic that the Bushido code and other such beliefs have such stiff punishments for cowardice, yet when faced with shame they prescribe the most cowardly escape method possible.
Killing yourself is not cowardly. Like you yourself said, no one wants to do it. It must be terrible what may be going through the individual's mind. Nevertheless, provided he's a responsible adult, the final decision rests with him and society should accept his decision.