Friend punched out a girl

Agentbolt

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A friend of mine was recently in a fight with his (now ex) girlfriend. Basically what happened is that an argument about money escalated, and she grabbed a metal spoon and hit him in the face, right above the eye. It opened up a gash and started bleeding. She then took a swing at him and missed. She definitely took it from yelling to physical violence.

My friend punched back and hit her in the nose, breaking it. She instantly collapsed on the floor and started screaming and crying and saying that he was "in big trouble now, you can't hit a girl!" She's since told the exact same story to a different mutual friend, so none of the facts are in dispute here.

The cops got called and currently are investigating. The crazy ex is absolutely sure my friend is going to get charges pressed against him, because it's simply not acceptable to hit a girl under any circumstances, ever. My friend is equally convinced he was in the right to defend himself. Currently there's a pretty raging debate going on between a lot of mutual acquaintances, with pretty much all the men agreeing with him and all the women agreeing with her (about it never being okay to hit a girl, not her behavior in the first place)

Personally, I totally agree with him. She'd already put a gash in his face bad enough to need stiches, and clearly wasn't done yet. He was absolutely right to punch her out, she was a danger regardless of whether she had boobs or not. This idiotic assumption that girls are delicate little flowers that are incapable of withstanding or dishing out physical violence is completely out of touch with how the real world works.

What do ya'll think? Was he justified in hitting her, or is it definitely not cool to hit back under any circumstances? It'd be nice if some girls chimed in too, I'm curious.

Update:

Sorry ya'll. I've been in Banned Land for the past week.

No charges were filed. Criminal ones, anyway. My friend received a phone call informing him to be aware of the possibility of a civil suit, but that as far as the cops were concerned he did nothing wrong. The cop was also apparently urged him to get a lawyer. The civil suit warning wasn't a threat, my friend said the cop seemed very sympathetic. When he asked what else he could have done the cop told him pretty much nothing, in situations like the man is at such a disadvantage that you just pray you never get stuck in one.

A few things:

A) This wasn't a teaspoon. He got hit with a twelve inch long serving spoon, one of the big ones you stir a giant pot of chilli with. A regular spoon isn't going to open up a giant gash on your eye.

B) The girl in question isn't huge but she isn't tiny either. She's like 5'6", 140 pounds. The idiocy dribbling out of some people's mouth about how "Oh she's just a girl, you can never hit a girl, they couldn't do any damage to you" have no earthly idea what they're talking about. Even if she was only 130 pounds or so, 130 pounds rushing at you is going to knock you off balance, and getting punched by anyone HURTS.

C) She was standing in front of the door, so making a run for it didn't immediately cross his mind, my friend said. He said he simply needed to stop her because he wasn't sure if she'd turn around and grab a knife out of the cabinet next. He threw one punch and that crumpled her, exactly what he meant to do. He didn't break her nose on purpose, but he wasn't exactly trying to go for maximum damage either.

Anyways, so that's pretty much it. This thread has been quite interesting. Most (if not all) of the girls who've replied have said they don't blame him for doing so. All of the "Nope you never hit a woman ever ever ever" replies are coming from wanna-be tough guys who have no idea what they're talking about.

Listen up, retards: If someone comes at you, WITH A WEAPON AND HAS CLEARLY SNAPPED, YOU TAKE HIM OR HER DOWN. It doesn't matter if it's a boy, a girl, whatever. He was absolutely, 100% in the right to knock her down and get out. I realize 30 years ago that maybe that wasn't how things were done, but then again women couldn't vote either up until 80 years ago. Times change, and most people realize now that an angry, insane 130 pound girl can put up a pretty good fight against your average guy. Enjoy your lumbering, archaic view on women, and understand that you're a bunch of dinosaurs who most people don't agree with.
 

Tencntraze

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I'd think that since she's already driven blood and has started to throw punches, you're in a fight-or-flight response and have a right to defend yourself. After all, who is to say that she won't grab a knife next at that point?
 

Agentbolt

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The law doesn't care who you hit, only if you hit back in self-defense

The letter of the law, yes. In real life it's all in how the cops write it up.

edit


Oops, guess you caught me. This story is all kinds of fanciful and unbelievable. You're an idiot.
 

Phokus

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I think he had a right to defend himself... i wouldn't do it though.
 

Fenixgoon

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based on your story, your friend is 100% in the right. i hope your friend doesn't get fvcked over, gl to him:thumbsup:
 

mrjminer

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Tell him to sue her for subsequently damaging his reputation by forcing him to hit her. His reputation is now marred by the fact that he hit a girl.
 
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She committed agrivated assault since she used a weapon. In Texas that is a felony, him punching her is a misdemeanor. If She's told the story to the cops the way it really happened then if he gets charged, she gets charged, but a lot of the time in instances like this cops will consider it mutual combat and no charges are filed.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The law doesn't care who you hit, only if you hit back in self-defense

The letter of the law, yes. In real life it's all in how the cops write it up.

edit


Oops, guess you caught me. This story is all kinds of fanciful and unbelievable. You're an idiot.

Anyone can create a believable story that may not seem like shens.
 

mpitts

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Jun 9, 2000
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If anyone cuts my face open then continues to be aggressive towards me, I am going to defend myself.

What does this crazy woman think? That she can just wail on this guy as much and with whatever she'd like and that he has to just sit there and take it because she is a woman?

And for the record, I am not advocating hitting a woman.. I'm advocating self-defense.
 

jhayx7

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I would probably would not have punched her in the face. Either a kick to the stomach or punch to the short rib.
 

amish

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never hit a girl. just wrestle her to the ground and get her to calm down.
 

Passions

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Your friend should be off the hook. Plus the fact that he bopped the girl in her face gives him extra brownie points for some excellent story-telling jokes.
 

jhayx7

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The law doesn't care who you hit, only if you hit back in self-defense

The letter of the law, yes. In real life it's all in how the cops write it up.

edit


Oops, guess you caught me. This story is all kinds of fanciful and unbelievable. You're an idiot.

Anyone can create a believable story that may not seem like shens.

STFU and go somewhere.
 

mflacy

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Aug 8, 2001
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Well, let's see:

Option 1: Punch her in the face. Get immediate gratification. Face possible assault charges, but probably cancel each other out.

Option 2: Back down. Face immediate humilitation. Press assault charges and seriously fvck up her personal / professional life.

Option 2 would have been a heck of a lot more gratifying to me, but each their own.
 

DarkThinker

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A gash above his EYE! I would have punched her nose in so bad there's no fixing it. Double Standards MY ASS!

WARNING TO ALL YOU FEMALES OUT THERE, THE MINUTE YOU RAISE A FINGER YOU ARE WAIVING ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO BE TREATED LIKE A RESPECTED FEMALE, DONT CROSS THAT THIN LINE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

DarkThinker
 

jjones

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From the sound of it, he should have decked her. Don't see him getting in any trouble with the cops for flooring her, especially with the gash over his eye to confirm his side of things.
 

Tarrant64

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Self Defense.

I personally would not have hit her in the face, although once it's self defense it's mostly fair game.

A good kick in the ______ would have gotten the point across to stop.
 

yllus

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Having a friend who took a women's self-defence class, I think I can safely attest that even a 5-foot-nothing, 100-pound female can do a very substantial amount of damage to another person if they put their mind to it.

I probably would have given her a really hard shove into a wall or something, but he was entirely justified.
 
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