OneOfTheseDays
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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
i bolded the part where you are wrong. self defense is allowed. in other words if she comes after him he has a right to defend himself. whether or not he needed to pummel her in the face hard enough to break her nose is the question. couldn't he have just pushed her away, and fled the scene?Originally posted by: Agentbolt
A friend of mine was recently in a fight with his (now ex) girlfriend. Basically what happened is that an argument about money escalated, and she grabbed a metal spoon and hit him in the face, right above the eye. It opened up a gash and started bleeding. She then took a swing at him and missed. She definitely took it from yelling to physical violence.
My friend punched back and hit her in the nose, breaking it. She instantly collapsed on the floor and started screaming and crying and saying that he was "in big trouble now, you can't hit a girl!" She's since told the exact same story to a different mutual friend, so none of the facts are in dispute here.
The cops got called and currently are investigating. The crazy ex is absolutely sure my friend is going to get charges pressed against him,because it's simply not acceptable to hit a girl under any circumstances, ever. My friend is equally convinced he was in the right to defend himself. Currently there's a pretty raging debate going on between a lot of mutual acquaintances, with pretty much all the men agreeing with him and all the women agreeing with her (about it never being okay to hit a girl, not her behavior in the first place)
Personally, I totally agree with him. She'd already put a gash in his face bad enough to need stiches, and clearly wasn't done yet. He was absolutely right to punch her out, she was a danger regardless of whether she had boobs or not. This idiotic assumption that girls are delicate little flowers that are incapable of withstanding or dishing out physical violence is completely out of touch with how the real world works.
What do ya'll think? Was he justified in hitting her, or is it definitely not cool to hit back under any circumstances? It'd be nice if some girls chimed in too, I'm curious.
Bingo!
Self defense is not as black and white as most people think. And is definately not a carte blanche to do anything you want to someone who is threating you.
1. You have to prove that there was a significant enough threat that you had reason to beleive the person was going to do you serious bodily harm. Someone throwing a spoon at you just doesn't do it IMO
2. Your only allowed to respond with enough force to nuetralize the threat, nothing more.
To listen to some of you guys in here, if someone chunked a rock at you your justified in pulling out your glock and capping them in the head a few times
i had a friend that came up on his girlfriend being raped by a gang member. he pulled the guy off her, and the guy pulled a gun and told him to leave. he pulled his and shot him after the other guy fired. self defense. he was put away for 10 years because he fired all 5 remaining barrels into the guy after he went down. i asked him why he did that, he said he was still twitching.
self defense is only self defense if you do what is necessary to stop the threat to you, not go farther than necessary.
Oh wow that is harsh. 10 years for killing the guy who was raping his gf?