Friend punched out a girl

[thraashman]

As a male feminist I believe in treating women as equals, not in anyway special. So I would have reacted the same way I would if a man had hit me. In fact, in comparison to what I would have done, he probably pulled his punch. I'd have broken her jaw or cheekbone.

 

[dr150]

Definitely justified.

However, a strong guy has to pull back his punches on a petite woman otherwise face the consequences of doing extreme damage.



Of course, all rules are off if you'd try to hit Lucy Lawless...... be prepared for a knuckle dragger of a fight.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: amish
never hit a girl. just wrestle her to the ground and get her to calm down.

.........and then have make-up sex.

 

[shadow9d9]

I'd have done more than break her nose. Females have no more right to attack someone than males. Watch Judge Judy, she agrees.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: squirrel dog
All you guys seem much younger than me(55).You hit a woman,you done fuxked up , no matter . Losing your temper and hitting a woman(breaking her nose !)will get you put under the jail.

Umm, not according to the law, and not if you have a good lawyer or a witness.

 

[Pacemaker]

In IL where I used to live if someone accuses you of domestic battery you go to jail for a night. No bail no way out of it; sorry you were accused you go to jail. I have a friend who whenever his psycho ex-girlfriend saw a strange car (she figured it was another woman) at his house she called the cops and said he hit her so he'd go to jail for the night. By the 3rd time the cops were apologizing to my friend for having to take him to lockup. Thankfully she got a life and stopped.

I'm not saying that the bias doesn't have roots in fact, but some women use the bias to their advantage and it sucks.

 

[pnad]

I had been assuming this was like a big 12" metal mixing spoon. Please tell me it wasn't a teaspoon.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Any woman who hits me or otherwise tries to harm me... she had better be prepared to get mashed in the face.

I'm not saying that I will hit her (I probably would not), just that she better not complain or be surprised if I do.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: amish
never hit a girl. just wrestle her to the ground and get her to calm down.

No real man would ever hit a woman. I guess this forum is filled with 5ft5 130lb virgins, beacuse no *man* would feel threatened by a woman with a spoon.

Common what the fvck is wrong with yall? Sh!t like that is (or should be) no contest, which is why you don't resort to physical violence towards a girl. Especially all you "if you ever touch me im gonna knock you out" people, you're really just pussies. Way to assert your alpha maleness :roll:

 

[Snicks]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: amish
never hit a girl. just wrestle her to the ground and get her to calm down.

No real man would ever hit a woman. I guess this forum is filled with 5ft5 130lb virgins, beacuse no *man* would feel threatened by a woman with a spoon.

Common what the fvck is wrong with yall? Sh!t like that is (or should be) no contest, which is why you don't resort to physical violence towards a girl. Especially all you "if you ever touch me im gonna knock you out" people, you're really just pussies. Way to assert your alpha maleness :roll:

As a female your post offends me. I am not a lightweight and I can handle myself in a fight even if it's against a man. Don't assume a woman can't do harm.

As for the original post........hitting her in the face may not have been the best option but I don't fault him.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Snicks

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: amish
never hit a girl. just wrestle her to the ground and get her to calm down.

No real man would ever hit a woman. I guess this forum is filled with 5ft5 130lb virgins, beacuse no *man* would feel threatened by a woman with a spoon.

Common what the fvck is wrong with yall? Sh!t like that is (or should be) no contest, which is why you don't resort to physical violence towards a girl. Especially all you "if you ever touch me im gonna knock you out" people, you're really just pussies. Way to assert your alpha maleness :roll:

As a female your post offends me. I am not a lightweight and I can handle myself in a fight even if it's against a man. Don't assume a woman can't do harm.

As for the original post........hitting her in the face may not have been the best option but I don't fault him.

Yeah...
unless you're a professional athlele (power lifting, body building etc.), I doubth that would be the case. Equality is nice and all, but that really goes against reality - statistically (and naturally) women are smaller and weaker then men, which is why there shouldn't be any equality implied when it comes down to physical violence.

 

[Snicks]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Snicks

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: amish
never hit a girl. just wrestle her to the ground and get her to calm down.

No real man would ever hit a woman. I guess this forum is filled with 5ft5 130lb virgins, beacuse no *man* would feel threatened by a woman with a spoon.

Common what the fvck is wrong with yall? Sh!t like that is (or should be) no contest, which is why you don't resort to physical violence towards a girl. Especially all you "if you ever touch me im gonna knock you out" people, you're really just pussies. Way to assert your alpha maleness :roll:

You're telling me that I wouldn't be able to bring you down even though I've been trained to do just that. Physically I'm not a wrestler nor a body builder but I had enough sense to learn to defend myself in any situation. In fact I've had to. Don't tell me that I can't take a man down.

As a female your post offends me. I am not a lightweight and I can handle myself in a fight even if it's against a man. Don't assume a woman can't do harm.

As for the original post........hitting her in the face may not have been the best option but I don't fault him.

Yeah...
unless you a professional wrestler or body builder or something, I doubth that would be the cas. Feminism is nice and all, but sometimes it goes against reality - naturally and statistically women are smaller and weaker then men, which is why there shouldn't be any equality implied when it comes down to physical violence.

 

[Juddog]

I am a big guy... 6'2 close to 300 lbs, lift weights, been in quite a few real life fights.

My fiance the one night did something similar, she threw a vicious right hook one night when drunk and arguing (with our friends in the other room no less) and punched me hard enough to cut the inside of my cheek on my teeth and make me taste blood.

I was also drunk at the time.

I didn't hit her back. I have run it through my mind time and time again, and still can't justify hitting her back, because one punch would have broken her nose, maybe her jaw even.

Not quite the same situation, but similar.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: DarkThinker
A gash above his EYE! I would have punched her nose in so bad there's no fixing it. Double Standards MY ASS!

WARNING TO ALL YOU FEMALES OUT THERE, THE MINUTE YOU RAISE A FINGER YOU ARE WAIVING ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO BE TREATED LIKE A RESPECTED FEMALE, DONT CROSS THAT THIN LINE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

DarkThinker

hehe, my personal motto = don't hit women, but hit bitches in self defense.

 

[zylander]

Good for him, ****** that stupid bitch. She pushed him to the edge while thinking some stupid mentality like; "its ok for me to attack him because if he fights back I can get him in court too". ****** her.

 

[Tarrant64]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: DarkThinker
A gash above his EYE! I would have punched her nose in so bad there's no fixing it. Double Standards MY ASS!

WARNING TO ALL YOU FEMALES OUT THERE, THE MINUTE YOU RAISE A FINGER YOU ARE WAIVING ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO BE TREATED LIKE A RESPECTED FEMALE, DONT CROSS THAT THIN LINE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

DarkThinker

hehe, my personal motto = don't hit women, but hit bitches in self defense.

:thumbsup::beer:

 

[CryHavoc]

I haven't weeded through all 4 pages of responses but the smart thing for him to have done is to not hit he back, left the residence immediately after she drew blood and took another swing, called the police and had her arrested for assault.

She would have been hauled off to jail. At that point, tempers would have cooled, and it would be completely up to him to press charges. If she was a raging B you know what then he could file charges and she would be charged with assault and battery and she would spend some time in jail, have to post bail, and deal with a future court date and possible slammer time, or at the very least, a negative mark on her now active police record.

The cops can haul both people to jail once he swung at her, sorted it out there and both parties would be at the mercy of the prosecuting attorney.

He should have left. plain and simple to call the cops.

Yes, a person should defend themselves if they feel their well being is in jeapordy, but she didn't have a deadly weapon at the start of all this.

Like a person said before, hitting back in self defense is usually ok, but its up to the judge to decide if he was justified in striking a woman. Hope he doesn't stand before a woman behind the bench.

 

[CKDragon]

Where's the update?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
A friend of mine was recently in a fight with his (now ex) girlfriend. Basically what happened is that an argument about money escalated, and she grabbed a metal spoon and hit him in the face, right above the eye. It opened up a gash and started bleeding. She then took a swing at him and missed. She definitely took it from yelling to physical violence.

My friend punched back and hit her in the nose, breaking it. She instantly collapsed on the floor and started screaming and crying and saying that he was "in big trouble now, you can't hit a girl!" She's since told the exact same story to a different mutual friend, so none of the facts are in dispute here.

The cops got called and currently are investigating. The crazy ex is absolutely sure my friend is going to get charges pressed against him,because it's simply not acceptable to hit a girl under any circumstances, ever. My friend is equally convinced he was in the right to defend himself. Currently there's a pretty raging debate going on between a lot of mutual acquaintances, with pretty much all the men agreeing with him and all the women agreeing with her (about it never being okay to hit a girl, not her behavior in the first place)

Personally, I totally agree with him. She'd already put a gash in his face bad enough to need stiches, and clearly wasn't done yet. He was absolutely right to punch her out, she was a danger regardless of whether she had boobs or not. This idiotic assumption that girls are delicate little flowers that are incapable of withstanding or dishing out physical violence is completely out of touch with how the real world works.

What do ya'll think? Was he justified in hitting her, or is it definitely not cool to hit back under any circumstances? It'd be nice if some girls chimed in too, I'm curious.

i bolded the part where you are wrong. self defense is allowed. in other words if she comes after him he has a right to defend himself. whether or not he needed to pummel her in the face hard enough to break her nose is the question. couldn't he have just pushed her away, and fled the scene?

 

[Biermacht]

Originally posted by: jjsole
There are two sides to every story, however in either one he's probably fvcked, as he should be.

His punch was obviously anger related, since he could have walked away. Playing the 'self-defense card' after choosing to escalate a fight with a girl by punching her is typical of a sissy girl-beater.

I'm with you. Defending yourself is one thing, but this sounds like retaliation.

I'm surprised by the amount of guys here saying they'd do the same thing. Guess it's just different generations. Either that or you all need anger management along with the girl beater. Sure she sounds like a bitch, but that no excuse of violence towards women. He's a dumbass for breaking a womans nose and deserves what's coming to him.

 

[marcusj3000]

The law states once you attack with an object with the intent to do harm it doesn't matter if you are a women or cuddly toddler, you are an attacker. She did bodily damage with a spoon so that spoon became a deadly weapon once it broke the skin and drew blood. The reason he wasn't taken to jail is because she would have to be booked in for assault with a weapon with the intent to do harm, it doesn't matter if it was a apoon because it as I quoted drew blood so it is considered a deadly weapon by law. A DA won't touch this to often because if he charges the guy the female has to be charged also, it doesn't matter if she's weaker because once she did harm with a weapon she was just as much in the wrong and is not considered weak from that point on.
Within the statue of fight or flight he is justified for defending himself because damage above the eye is enables him to fight back to protect life,limb or eyesight. So the police saved themselves some trouble and chose to not take him to jail because both parties committed assault and engage in domestic voilenc, any decent defender could pick this one apart.

 

[Shortcut]

i'm not saying your buddy should have knocked her out...but i understand why he did it! really tough call. conventional wisdom says to never hit girls, but if you're getting shanked by her you ought to protect yourself.

i dunno...maybe it would help to just grab her by the shoulders and shake the sh!t out of her till she stops?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I personally think you friend is jerk and will probably get reemed in court if it goes that far. Since when is a spoon a deadly weapon? , now if she was trying to gouge his eye out or something maybe. Definately not enough justification to break a womans nose. He should have just restrained her until she calmed down, or just walked away. Claiming self defense just makes him look stupid. I would love to be there when he tries to convince a judge that he feared for his safety when his girl friend threw a spoon at him, and he had to protect himself by punching her in the face:laugh:

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Women aren't porcelain dolls. She will be fine. Next time don't pick a fight with a bigger dog.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

He would have exacted better revenge if he fled the situation and pressed charges on her for assault. Wouldn't that be jail time for sure?