Friend punched out a girl

[snowdogg187]

he should be fine but I don't think I would have punched her, unless she's a tough gal.

 

[Job]

Chris Rock - you can never hit a girl. But you can shake the sh*t out of them!!

My ex opened up my lip with a beer bottle - wish I had managed to get a lucky slap off before she was dragged away....

 

[Descartes]

I wouldn't hit a woman OR a man that was substantially smaller than me unless the situation absolutely required it. The only situation that I could think would require such action is if they were wielding a gun or a knife and threatening to use it.

I've been hit by women a few times in my life, and I can't imagine hitting back. I'll restrain them if necessary, but never hit. I'd feel disgusting for breaking a woman's nose.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: halik
I very much disagree on this point and this also leads me to believe most guys in this forum are 130lbs and under... that is really the only case where I can see men actually hitting women back.

according to the last few polls here, all the guys here are 6' 1" weight 180 and made $100k/year by the time they were 20....

180lbs is pretty scrawny for a 6'1" guy

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Pwnbroker
I've always heard, if she's man enough to throw a punch, she's man enough to fight. And, to clear up any confusion, it's not okay to hit a lady, but if she's taking punches, she's no lady. Also, I have met a lot of girls who wouldn't hesitate to slice you up, and I wouldn't give any of them a chance to hit me twice, I'd cold-cock them in a heartbeat.

If they're trying to slice you up, sure, but let's be serious: Unless the man happens to be relatively small, there's not a lot of harm your average woman can do with fists alone. It may not feel great, but she would probably only get in a few swings before you could just restrain her.

 

[Jahee]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: spacejamz

Originally posted by: halik
I very much disagree on this point and this also leads me to believe most guys in this forum are 130lbs and under... that is really the only case where I can see men actually hitting women back.

according to the last few polls here, all the guys here are 6' 1" weight 180 and made $100k/year by the time they were 20....

180lbs is pretty scrawny for a 6'1" guy

Precisely

 

[girlpower4ever]

lol to original post from page 1
thats quite a story there.

Theres a difference in self defense, either incapcitate, subdue and hold down the threat, or just straight assault and attack.

what your friend should have done is just slam her on the ground instead of punching her on the nose.

i know its a natural self defense reaction to punch under "RAGE"
but if your friend wasnt under rage, he would have just defended himself like put his hands up on his gash, and then say" stop or i'm taking you down."

when the girl launches forward,
thats when she gets put into a locking head lock.

and if she doesnt, then sue her for medical charges
ouch

 

[GprophetB]

Originally posted by: mpitts
If anyone cuts my face open then continues to be aggressive towards me, I am going to defend myself.

What does this crazy woman think? That she can just wail on this guy as much and with whatever she'd like and that he has to just sit there and take it because she is a woman?

And for the record, I am not advocating hitting a woman.. I'm advocating self-defense.

Well said

Agree

hope your friend comes out ok on this mess.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: halik


I very much disagree on this point and this also leads me to believe most guys in this forum are 130lbs and under... that is really the only case where I can see men actually hitting women back.

I personally can't think of a circumstance where I'd feel threatened because a woman assaults me and this is why I'd never consider actually punching back or something. I guess if you're a weak/pussy your only option is to knuckle up, but I'd imagine most men wouldn't have problem overpowering women without explicit violence.

LOL, you do realize that a lot of women would consider overpowering to be abuse? I was in a relationship a few years ago with a mentally unbalanced one that would throw violent temper tantrums and when I grabbed her by the arms to prevent her she said that was abuse! Of course when after you have been scratched and are bleeding your adrenaline does increase and your grip may be tighter than usual, but I NEVER raised my fist to her or hit her in any way.. Yet the holding down was still considered to be abuse in her eyes.

The truth is you can't win in that type of situation, women are much weaker and even a minimal amount of force can potentially cause small bruises, which would be grounds for arrest... So what other options do you have if you are blocked from leaving?

At the end of day, women can be very emotionally unstable, especially during certain times of the month or if they feel you have hurt them in some way. The OP was protecting himself, but he needs to realize that with some women that type of behavior comes with the territory. He obviously knew this already and CHOSE to stay with her, so it was on him to modify HIS behavior to avoid this type of escalation, and it was on HIM not to retaliate when she flipped out again.

 

[girlpower4ever]

i agree with your post bumrush99
woman can be aggressive especially during pms periods.

but restraining a woman down for self defense is definitely ok.
shes the one that lost her temper.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
The OP was protecting himself, but he needs to realize that with some women that type of behavior comes with the territory. He obviously knew this already and CHOSE to stay with her, so it was on him to modify HIS behavior to avoid this type of escalation, and it was on HIM not to retaliate when she flipped out again.

Not the OP, his friend.

 

[Agentbolt]

Update:

Sorry ya'll. I've been in Banned Land for the past week.

No charges were filed. Criminal ones, anyway. My friend received a phone call informing him to be aware of the possibility of a civil suit, but that as far as the cops were concerned he did nothing wrong. The cop was also apparently urged him to get a lawyer. The civil suit warning wasn't a threat, my friend said the cop seemed very sympathetic. When he asked what else he could have done the cop told him pretty much nothing, in situations like the man is at such a disadvantage that you just pray you never get stuck in one.

A few things:

A) This wasn't a teaspoon. He got hit with a twelve inch long serving spoon, one of the big ones you stir a giant pot of chilli with. A regular spoon isn't going to open up a giant gash on your eye.

B) The girl in question isn't huge but she isn't tiny either. She's like 5'6", 140 pounds. The idiocy dribbling out of some people's mouth about how "Oh she's just a girl, you can never hit a girl, they couldn't do any damage to you" have no earthly idea what they're talking about. Even if she was only 130 pounds or so, 130 pounds rushing at you is going to knock you off balance, and getting punched by anyone HURTS.

C) She was standing in front of the door, so making a run for it didn't immediately cross his mind, my friend said. He said he simply needed to stop her because he wasn't sure if she'd turn around and grab a knife out of the cabinet next. He threw one punch and that crumpled her, exactly what he meant to do. He didn't break her nose on purpose, but he wasn't exactly trying to go for maximum damage either.

Anyways, so that's pretty much it. This thread has been quite interesting. Most (if not all) of the girls who've replied have said they don't blame him for doing so. All of the "Nope you never hit a woman ever ever ever" replies are coming from wanna-be tough guys who have no idea what they're talking about.

Listen up, retards: If someone comes at you, WITH A WEAPON AND HAS CLEARLY SNAPPED, YOU TAKE HIM OR HER DOWN. It doesn't matter if it's a boy, a girl, whatever. He was absolutely, 100% in the right to knock her down and get out. I realize 30 years ago that maybe that wasn't how things were done, but then again women couldn't vote either up until 80 years ago. Times change, and most people realize now that an angry, insane 130 pound girl can put up a pretty good fight against your average guy. Enjoy your lumbering, archaic view on women, and understand that you're a bunch of dinosaurs who most people don't agree with.

 

[MillionaireNextDoor]

Anyway, what was the fight about?

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor
Anyway, what was the fight about?

It's in the first line of the first post.

 

[Miramonti]

Good to hear charges weren't filed.

Now you're friend should take advantage of this good fortune and hit the gym, before he gets his @ss kicked again by a 140lb girl with a ladle.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Good to hear charges weren't filed.

Now you're friend should take advantage of this good fortune and hit the gym, before he gets his @ss kicked again by a 140lb girl with a ladle.

I have always been much more fearful and respectful of small aggressive people over bigger or stronger people. I have never hesitated or doubted myself going up against people nearly a foot taller or a hundred pounds heavier or obviously in better shape (and therefore stronger) than myself. Those types tend to rely on those traits and can be brought down fairly easily. It's the little bastards that are willing to come at you that you have to worry about (and women doubly so). If they're willing to go at their size then they can bring some serious shiat. The times I've come closest to getting hurt in the last twenty years have always been against smaller opponents (and in a few cases, females).

From that I learned that there is no gender in a fight. In fact there is nothing in a fight except an opponent. I will face them all exactly the same, and treat them no differently.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
C) She was standing in front of the door, so making a run for it didn't immediately cross his mind, my friend said. He said he simply needed to stop her because he wasn't sure if she'd turn around and grab a knife out of the cabinet next. He threw one punch and that crumpled her, exactly what he meant to do. He didn't break her nose on purpose, but he wasn't exactly trying to go for maximum damage either.

BS.

There's a door to their kitchen? They have cabinets by their front door? :roll: Aside from the logistics of somebody having a drawer beside the door, you said she'd just took a swing and missed. After her miss, she was still in position to block him from leaving and grab a knife from a drawer? He was close enough to punch her but not shove her aside or slam a drawer closed?

There are numerous ways of securing your safety in this situation. Being bludgeoned to death by a serving spoon after having a 130 pound girl subdue you with one hand free probably ranks just above choking to death on a frozen taquito in the order of realistic scenarios. He chose one of the most savage options available and that's because he was angry. I can't blame him for being angry....they were fighting already and then he got hit with a spoon....but he needs to fess up to that and stop making it seem like he hit her for her own good.

 

[Biermacht]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
All of the "Nope you never hit a woman ever ever ever" replies are coming from wanna-be tough guys who have no idea what they're talking about.

A wannabe tough guy punches women.

Listen up, retards: If someone comes at you, WITH A WEAPON AND HAS CLEARLY SNAPPED, YOU TAKE HIM OR HER DOWN. It doesn't matter if it's a boy, a girl, whatever. He was absolutely, 100% in the right to knock her down and get out. I realize 30 years ago that maybe that wasn't how things were done, but then again women couldn't vote either up until 80 years ago. Times change, and most people realize now that an angry, insane 130 pound girl can put up a pretty good fight against your average guy. Enjoy your lumbering, archaic view on women, and understand that you're a bunch of dinosaurs who most people don't agree with.

Looks like you have anger-management problems too. This paragraph makes you just like your buddy, a wannabe tough guy.

 

[girlpower4ever]

At least it wasnt a knife,
most people under rage
like to threaten the other person with a knife
the arguement gets so heated and serious
that the other person accidentally and incidentally stab the other person

a spoon is better than knife
but grappling down a girl because shes enraged is better then knocking her lights out
lol

 

[mercanucaribe]

Wait so why didnt' he just punch her int he stomach?

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
All of the "Nope you never hit a woman ever ever ever" replies are coming from wanna-be tough guys who have no idea what they're talking about.

says the internet tough guy. :roll:

i wasn't faulting your friend i would have taken her down too, just in a different manner.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: jjsole
Good to hear charges weren't filed.

Now you're friend should take advantage of this good fortune and hit the gym, before he gets his @ss kicked again by a 140lb girl with a ladle.

I have always been much more fearful and respectful of small aggressive people over bigger or stronger people. I have never hesitated or doubted myself going up against people nearly a foot taller or a hundred pounds heavier or obviously in better shape (and therefore stronger) than myself. Those types tend to rely on those traits and can be brought down fairly easily. It's the little bastards that are willing to come at you that you have to worry about (and women doubly so). If they're willing to go at their size then they can bring some serious shiat. The times I've come closest to getting hurt in the last twenty years have always been against smaller opponents (and in a few cases, females).

From that I learned that there is no gender in a fight. In fact there is nothing in a fight except an opponent. I will face them all exactly the same, and treat them no differently.

Personally I'm happy to avoid wrestlers.

In my buffed lean and mean days, I once went at it for fun with a wrestler friend who went to state in high school, who I outweighed by 55lbs. I had to everything possible to keep from getting my @ss kicked (which of course wasn't enough )

 

[Agentbolt]

Looks like you have anger-management problems too. This paragraph makes you just like your buddy, a wannabe tough guy.

Sorry, wrong. I've never claimed to be anything other than a giant wuss. Congrats on simply making a childish "Oooh you seem angry" response rather than attempt to show any faults in what I said. What are you, 12? Learn how to argue better, for your own sake.

I don't know how their place is laid out, but I've seen plenty of old Boston apartments where there's a door in the kitchen. If he says she was in the way of the door, and within reach of a knife, I believe him.

The constant bleating of "well just wrestle her down" carries no water. Read the entire thread, morons. It's not any better of an option than punching her out when you're simply trying to protect yourself.

but he needs to fess up to that and stop making it seem like he hit her for her own good.

Where was it said it was for her own good? I'm sorry if Fantasy World Agentbolt offended you by saying that, but in, you know, REALITY, that was never claimed. He punched her out for HIS own good because he wanted her disabled so he could get the hell out of the apartment. That's it.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Looks like you have anger-management problems too. This paragraph makes you just like your buddy, a wannabe tough guy.

Sorry, wrong. I've never claimed to be anything other than a giant wuss. Congrats on simply making a childish "Oooh you seem angry" response rather than attempt to show any faults in what I said. What are you, 12? Learn how to argue better, for your own sake.

I don't know how their place is laid out, but I've seen plenty of old Boston apartments where there's a door in the kitchen. If he says she was in the way of the door, and within reach of a knife, I believe him.

The constant bleating of "well just wrestle her down" carries no water. Read the entire thread, morons. It's not any better of an option than punching her out when you're simply trying to protect yourself.

but he needs to fess up to that and stop making it seem like he hit her for her own good.

Where was it said it was for her own good? I'm sorry if Fantasy World Agentbolt offended you by saying that, but in, you know, REALITY, that was never claimed. He punched her out for HIS own good because he wanted her disabled so he could get the hell out of the apartment. That's it.

You're getting too defensive of your friend. Is 'this friend' really you? Or are you sleeping with him?

 

[Agentbolt]

You're getting too defensive of your friend. Is 'this friend' really you? Or are you sleeping with him?

Luckily my girlfriend isn't the crazy type. If my defense of my buddy seems more zealous than warranted, it's probably because if I found myself in the same situation, I'd have done the exact same thing.